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Old 12th March 2021, 18:04   #1
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Default Delhi Govt. tells commercial buildings to reserve 5% parking for EVs

The Government of Delhi has asked all commercial buildings that have a parking capacity of more than 100 vehicles to set aside at least 5% of their parking for EVs along with suitable slow EV chargers installed. These buildings include malls, shopping complexes, cinema halls, multiplexes, office spaces, hotels, restaurants and hospitals. Commercial buildings approached by the government will have to implement the order by the end of the year.

At present, Delhi has 72 electric vehicle charging stations. The government aims to increase this number to 500 in 6 months. Its target is to set up one EV charging station for every three kilometres.

By December, the Delhi government wants to set up more than 10,000 charging points across the national capital. The step to ask commercial buildings to reserve parking for EVs and install charging points could help increase the number of public EV charging points in Delhi significantly. This in turn is expected to help promote the adoption of EVs.

Delhi is known to struggle with high levels of pollution. The government hopes that the adoption of EVs will help in keeping the pollution levels low. The government itself is aiming to have only electric vehicles in its fleet by August 6, 2021.

Source: Hindustan Times
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Old 12th March 2021, 18:28   #2
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Really, really wish we would do this instead:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus

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Old 12th March 2021, 20:13   #3
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Simply asking private stakeholders to install such systems doesn't work. Everything has an opportunity cost and especially in the case of commercial real estate like malls and hotels. Needless to say that such infrastructures require a decent amount of time and money considering the fact that this is something long-term and not short-term.

Another problematic aspect is the mindset of people. I can already envision a scenario where an elderly Indian gentleman, an Indian uncle as we say colloquially, is completely oblivious to rules like 'EV Only' parking. An EV parking is useless if normal cars start parking there. What rules have the government thought about for this?

Every country where EVs are booming today have had a significant backing and support from their local/state governments in order to make EVs a true alternative to conventional cars. I see our government implementing lots of rules (which is also appreciated) but in India subsidies work more than rules. Carrots > Sticks.
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A good move. I may have missed this news but are there vendors / subscription plans in place for providing these chargers (and electricity) or would it be the responsibility of manufacturers - Hyundai / Tata / Ather and so on?

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Simply asking private stakeholders to install such systems doesn't work. Everything has an opportunity cost and especially in the case of commercial real estate like malls and hotels.
What opportunity cost? This isn't going to be free btw; it will be a paid service. Most commercial establishments already charge for parking so they losing nothing by reserving some for EVs. 5% is negligible.

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Needless to say that such infrastructures require a decent amount of time and money considering the fact that this is something long-term and not short-term.
It takes barely any time for manufacturers to install chargers at your place once you buy an EV; why should this be ay different. Commercial establishments already have:
a) Parking space
b) Electricity

That's all that's required.

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Another problematic aspect is the mindset of people. I can already envision a scenario where an elderly Indian gentleman, an Indian uncle as we say colloquially, is completely oblivious to rules like 'EV Only' parking.
Again, what's with the negativity. The Indian uncle is eccentric, sure, but not stupid. Most malls have dedicated spaces for women drivers / pregnant ladies and it is fairly well enforced by the attendant. Keep this service first-come-first-serve and it shouldn't be a huge problem.

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Good move, the percentage should be increased gradually like end of 2025 should be 20% parking as the new EVs increase.

Look at this way, with fossil fuels only few companies, few countries made profits, with EVs every mall, hotel, restaurant, furniture stores and even you have an opportunity to become an energy supplier. Usually they charge a premium, EV users prefer staying in hotels where they can charge at night, prefer spending half day at IKEA stores.
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Delhi govt appears to be going very electric since the recent weeks. First the Nexon duty sop removed, now stayed by Delhi High Court and what next?

Some Nexons post the duty sop removal on 01/03/2021 till the date of stay by Delhi High Court on 11/03/2021 could have been sold paying the full duties.

The Delhi government needs to clarify as to whether the Nexon EV's that have paid full duties are eligible to be parked in the so called 5% reserved parking spaces ?
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Quotes are not directed to the FM.

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This in turn is expected to help promote the adoption of EVs.
I am sorry to say, this isn't going to be enough to get our people on board. You have to offer good incentives for the few EV's we have on sale in India. We will have to keep this going for several years. Get people to look at EV's. Make it easy (financially) to buy one.

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Delhi is known to struggle with high levels of pollution.
I have been reading this line in the newspaper for the last decade and wonder what our Government has done to solve this. I read about a Carbon Capture project but that has not seen the light of day, yet. An industrial heavy region like Delhi can use some inspiration from this company down South

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The government hopes that the adoption of EVs will help in keeping the pollution levels low. The government itself is aiming to have only electric vehicles in its fleet by August 6, 2021.
That is optimistic but lets see how we go. If Delhi can target atleast 10% of its road going public transport fleet in a year to switch to electric, that would be
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He must also provide 15amp plugs for charging!
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I am sorry to say, this isn't going to be enough to get our people on board. You have to offer good incentives for the few EV's we have on sale in India. We will have to keep this going for several years. Get people to look at EV's. Make it easy (financially) to buy one.
I would rather prefer changing the entire city bus fleet to electric ( in fact all CVs) than giving subsidy to an individual buyer, if it takes time for PVs to convert to electric so be it. We have meagre resources which needs to be spent judiciously.

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I read about a Carbon Capture project but that has not seen the light of day, yet. An industrial heavy region like Delhi can use some inspiration from this company down South
This is not carbon capture as per definition, this is more like the catalytic converter or other pollution reduction measures that we see in our cars, that is reduce carbon at source.

Carbon Capture (CCS) should capture carbon from the air directly. My understanding from what I am reading from climate scientists is, CCS is very expensive, very minimal usage, and there are many concerns on how you store the captured carbon, the effort should be minimising the pollution.

Pumping carbon to ocean depths, old oil fields, under mountains were all thought about, but imagine there is a leak, either marine life or people living next to the leak are all dead due to elevated pollution. CCS is like storing spent Nuclear fuel, and hope the next gen finds a solution.

CCS is a fancy word invented by the industry to have license to pollute more. Bill Gates was heavily criticized for suggesting CCS and Nuclear energy, Elon Musk too was criticized for declaring an award of 100$M for the best CCS solution.

In conclusion, CCS may be a solution but it is decades away, the world cannot waste time and money for now.
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