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Old 20th June 2021, 01:21   #46
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As a second car for the city commute, i would love to get an EV.

My requirements

1. Preferably < 10l and small sized for city commute.
2. Charging station in Apartment Complex and/or workplace.

Today both of these are not met. Hopefully, some time in the future.
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Old 14th July 2021, 13:41   #47
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In my opinion - Electric car adoption is still 5 years away atleast. Charging infrastructure, standardization of infrastructure (types of chargers used) and cost of EV are major hindrances.
When we go to Europe now - I see atleast 3-5 charging + parking spots in local Aldi for Electric car. It is common to see dedicated overnight roadside parkings + paid charging station.
Till the time - we have such infra - it is going to be very difficult for EV to be mainstream.
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Old 14th July 2021, 14:30   #48
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I feel there are two key criteria to be met for EV to become mainstream
1. Cost should the similar ( slightly more ) than the ICE counterparts - for every segment.
2. The charging times should be similar to the current fuels or need to develop light weight swappable batteries. Alternative is mileage around 800-1000 kms.

But what I see that the car makers are tagging the EV as luxury/niche segement and working on higher powered cars with a glass cieling on mileage. Why have a car which travels at 200kmph, 0 to 100 in 5 secs but a mileage of 200kms?

I would rather like to see a car with a max speed of 100 kmph, 0-100 in 12 secs and mileage of 800 kms. That gives me an option for less charging in cities and having good charging stations during long drives.
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Old 14th July 2021, 15:52   #49
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I see that a lot of people keep waiting for the day when they can charge electric cars as quickly as they would refuel a car - but let me turn that around and ask if they can ever refuel their ICE cars at home The issue is that we are tuned to the ICE way of handling things, while we need to actually shake off the ICE baggage and think fresh!

Of course people who go city hopping frequently cannot still switch over to EVs as easily, but I am sure they are not the majority. I would say the bigger problem even for those who travel only within the city is the availability of dedicated safe parking space where they could setup their home charging infrastructure.

Bottom line is that a lot of people in India can already switch over to EVs (can even afford the cost), but aren't doing so because of economic reasons - but please note that if you have a budget of over 20 lakh, and don't drive out of this city as much, your excuse to still go with ICE is a costly mistake that goes beyond simple economics!!
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Bottom line is that a lot of people in India can already switch over to EVs (can even afford the cost)...but please note that if you have a budget of over 20 lakh...
Sorry, have to point out the contradiction- most people in India simply don't have a budget of 20L for a car! (I won't spend 20L on a car either!) Perhaps on forums like this the numbers are better, but even then the number of sub 10L-car sales vs 10L+ car sales will show that that statement doesn't hold.

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I would say the bigger problem even for those who travel only within the city is the availability of dedicated safe parking space where they could setup their home charging infrastructure.
Agree completely, just look at at the number of cars parked on the roads. In some localities in Bangalore, the majority of people don't have parking space. So where will they charge a car?

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The issue is that we are tuned to the ICE way of handling things, while we need to actually shake off the ICE baggage and think fresh!
I'm an EV-hopeful. Will be awesome to get rid of the pollution in our cities, that's enough of a win for me (even if the questions remain about whether overall an EV is less polluting, considering the source of electricity generation, but that's another topic). I'm really hoping my next car will be an EV, and am already going to go for an EV to replace my commuter bike.

But I think that till EVs offer a similar ownership experience at approximately (at least) price point, widespread adoption will be tough. I think we're a lot closer to reaching that with 2-wheeler EVs rather than cars. For cars, exponentially fast charging and far more widespread charging stations are a must first (IMHO).
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