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Old 17th June 2024, 16:04   #1
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Ioniq 5 Ownership Review and Tips for Owning and Running an EV in India

When I purchased Ioniq 5 in Nov 2023, I was clueless about EVs. Today, after running it 15k km, I wish there was a thread like the one I am posting which would have helped me adopt, utilize and understand my machine to its full potential quicker.
I am putting this post here to help fellow BHPians and share as much knowledge as I can. EVs being a new platform, still needs a lot of understanding, and I am still learning. I will keep updating this thread, and I request fellow BHPians to share their input as well. So that we collectively help each other and everyone.

I have done 2 long road trips on the Ioniq 5, and 2 other short trips.

1. Delhi to Jaipur (~750km)
2. Delhi to Pushkar (~950kms)
3. Delhi to Gujrat Road Trip (Udaipur, Ahmedabad, Diu, Somnath, Dwarka, Dholavira, Rann of Kutch and back) (~3800kms)
4. Delhi to Bir Road Trip(Bir, Billing, Barot, Bir and back) (~1500kms)

I also own a Scorpio N. Primarily for expeditions and travel to offbeat places. I also own an Innova Crysta, because your Garage is incomplete without a reliable Toyota.

Adding a few pictures from the road trips.

Since there is already a post on reasons to (not) buy an EV:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...-ev-today.html (2024 Edition | What are the reasons you won't buy an EV today?)
I will just write a few lines about why I purchased mine:
My reasons are quite unorthodox. I personally feel low running cost is the wrong reason to purchase an EV, better put that money in stocks and refuel your ICE cars using the returns.

So is it being called environment friendly, It is NOT.
The only 3 reasons I purchased mine were: Power, Tech, and Looks. This thing hands down beats anything under 2 Cr for the above 3.

Now that we are done with the pleasantries, let us get to the point.

Firstly, all these are my personal experiences, opinions and practices and I would love positive feedback on them. I will break down the list in separate posts for better segregation and try to be as detailed as possible. If anyone has any follow-up questions, feel free to ask me the same.

I. Spare Tyre kit
II. DIY Extension Cord
III. 11kw Home Charger Installation
IV. Highway/Hotel DC/AC Chargers Mapping
V. Understanding Regen
VI. Battery Temps
VII. Charging tips and Battery Temps
Accessories and Customization
Incidents, Service and Ownership Experience

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I. Spare Tyre kit

Since there is already a Thread started by me regarding the same, I'll simply put the link of the same here:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...ace-saver.html (Hyundai Ioniq 5 : Solution for spare tyre is the XUV700 space saver!)

II. DIY Extension Cord

After researching a lot online, and checking out many extension cords, I was not comfortable with the quality/length/safety of the cords I found online. So, decided to build my own.

It has come in handy on 7 different occasions till now. All Homestays and most of the Hotels/ resorts I've been to are not ready for EVs. But because I had this extension, I did not have to plan my stays in remote areas at the mercy of Properties with charging Points at the parking area. may it be Rann of Kutch or Dholavira in Gujrat, or Barot and Bir in Himachal. This thing is truly a lifesaver for a traveler like me.

Ordered 2 parts online. Adding an Amazon link to the items, so that it helps others.

1. Waterproof 16Amp Socket: this was an Anchor socket, which I planned to replace with Norisys 25 amp socket, but after seeing the quality and using it multiple times without any issues, dropped the plan.

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2. Cord Reel : Expensive for what it offers, but is unbreakable/flexible material, fuss free, keeps the wire tangle free and the 16 amp Plug secure in place. Very easy to unwind and reel it back in. Can take 35Mtr+ cable easily.

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*If you will look closely, you will see a wood insect hugging the reel.
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3. Finolex 2.5 sq mm 3 Core 100% copper flexible cable: I would suggest to go for the same or equivalent.
You will want something that you are sure is 100% pure Copper, and you want something with Longevity.
Went to an electronics shop nearby and started reeling the cable in the cord reel. At 30mtr mark, the reel was quite heavy and I felt the length is enough for my emergency needs etc.
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You can make out from this picture that the reel can still handle 7-10 mtrs more easily, but I decided to stop at 30.
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4. Wire Gland: Weirdly, the waterproof socket did not come with a waterproof gland, so I had to purchase the same. After a little hit and trial at the stop, 13.5 Gland fit perfectly.
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5. Plug Top: Went for a 25amp Legrand Top, Purchased it offline.
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6. 16amp to 6amp converter: Only for emergencies if 16amp socket is not available. I'll suggest you reduce the charging speed from the portable charger to max 10amps is you are using this.

I keep the extension cord in the frunk.
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Experiences:
I have mostly had fuss free charging experience of the Portable charger with charging speeds ranging from 2.5-3.2KWh depending on the input voltage and wiring. The charger always starts up with a self load etc test and decides the maximum wattage it can stably send the car.
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I have faced 3 anomalies with the portable charger till date:
1. No Earthing: The 16AMP socket provided by our Diu resort did not have any earthing and the charger quickly threw the error light for the same on the Led indicator. Changing to another socket solved this issue. Note: In case of earthing fault, the charging is limited to 1.0-1.3KW. Safe to Assume the same is in place to protect one from electrocution due to current leak etc.
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2. Charging on Genset: During our stay at Dholavira, there was a power outage and soon after the genset was turned on, I got a notification on bluelink app stating, unable to charge. On heading to the car, is saw a weird pattern.

So, the MID screen display always starts charging from 0.3kwh and it gradually increases till the max wattage it will charge at, whenever charging is started. This is a 2-4sec pattern, Which I feel is to not put sudden load/stress on the grid. But today, it went till 2.5KW and cycled back to 0, and then again the same cycle in an infinite repetitive loop It was not difficult to decipher that the same is happening due to Genset not able to provide Constant Current/wattage. I reduced the charging speed to 2.5 and it started without any issues.

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(If you will look closely, you will see the genset on the extreme right. Those were 2 big Mahindra powerol units, I do not know the kva rating.)

3. Load > Supply: at our Homestay at Bir, The same issue that happened with the Genset happened. The voltage supply was very low during the day (10 am to 11pm). So low that you could even make out the fans were turning slower than usual. The car charging would cycle into an infinite loop above 2kw and The whole property's lights would flicker repeatedly with each loop.
On reducing the charging speed to 1.7KW, it charged and I increased the charging speed back to maximum post 11 pm and it took nicely.

P.S.: I assembled the extension cord myself, but if you are unsure about what you're doing, please get a professional/ electrician to do it for you.

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III. 11KW Home Charger.

Installation: Charger Installation can get tricky to impossible if you are living in an apartment. And Even post installation, there is always an uncertainty of it being revoked any time by the management.

Exhibit A: This is a notice from the apartment my in-laws live in. It needs no further explanation.
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Exhibit B: This is my personal experience. I almost purchased a Nexon EV back in 2018-19, so i Fortunately had put in a request for charger installation with my apartment Facilities Management and had a written approval with me.
I booked the Ioniq 5 back in november 2023. the initial Booking experience in itself was Poor, but hyundai later made it up for it, thanks to the reach-ability of TeamBHP. (https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...dai-india.html (Poor experience buying an Ioniq 5 | Happy with dealer, but a nightmare dealing with Hyundai India))
Post Booking, I approached My apartment management office for due diligence related to charger installation and was told that they no longer allow EV charger installation as they do not have the infrastructure to support the same. I was told that the apartment (Albeit constructed in 2017 in the heart of of the Capital of India) did not consider rise in EV demands and do not have the feasibility to Sanction for the same.
With my dreams shattered and my ear burning red with heartbroken emotions, i asked to meet with the estate manager deputed by JLL. I told him about my booking and I told him that since i had already done my due diligence once in 2019, i went ahead with the booking thinking the conditions will be same as before, and canceling the same will cost me almost 1L. After a long discussion and showing him email Proofs of 2019, the gentleman agreed and granted me charger installation permission as an exception case. (Phew) Granted I follow proper protocols laid out by the JLL engineering team regarding wiring etc.
1. JLL Asked me to get 16sqmm 4 pole armored cable, instead of 10mm 4 pole PVC cable Provided by the Exicom Charger Installation Team.
2. The wire to be routed properly via existing cable trays and properly tied down using cable ties and wall clips.

The total Length of cable used was 38Mtrs and i ended up paying Rs. 25,000 extra over and above the free Charger installation, for the wire upgrade differential and extra length. I am not sure but 20 or 25Mtrs was the maximum length included in the free installation. Exicom team was more than happy to procure the 16sqmm finolex armored cable as requested by DLF team. And for a reasonable cost.(I cross checked it with a few other vendors)
Plus Misc expenses like 3 PhaseSub meter, 4 pole 63Amp MCB etc.
Pretty reasonable i would say for the wire upgrade and the peace of mind which comes with it.

Installation Day:
The Exicom-eChargeBays Installation team were very professional and accomodating. The task took almost the whole day.

The Car was moved from my parking slot to make space for installation equipments. Leading to my trio, for the first time parked adjacent to each other.
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The Parking slot was prepped for Charger installation. Sorry for dark photos, the light at my parking slot was kaput since long, and i never bothered to get it replaced. Asked the JLL guys and they replaced it within an hour.
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The team Laid everything out nicely and did a prelim check, made notes, videos etc of all the equipment and Cable etc. Company protocols, I am sure.
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First Glimpse of the Charger in the box.
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The Cable Tray From my parking slot.
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To the Closest Panel Room in the background.
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Inside the Panel Room
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The Panel (Bus Bar on the left from where supply was borrowed)
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First line of defense
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Charger Being Commissioned
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Et Voila
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First Trial Charge
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Home Sweet Home
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Non-Jeep Jeep easter egg
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IV. Highway / Hotels Chargers Mapping

I follow a few simple tricks for this. Hope it helps others.

1. Open Google Maps and, well, Map the Route/Circuit in your mind for your upcoming travels.
Eg. This was the route for my GJ circuit
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2.Open Plugshare and manually Check out all the chargers en route and research them. Always Prefer Chargers next to a Restaurant/Hotel/Mall etc. Search them on Google and Check out Washrooms and other amenities like food/accessibility/restaurant etc as per your preference. Prefer branded outlets as they are more reliable when it comes to Clean washrooms. Especially when traveling with Females.
You will be spending at least 30 minutes here. ( or 10 if you score a 180kw charger )
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3. Check out pics of the charger for location(Prefer Chargers with canopy or shaded/underground parking), especially in summer and monsoons.
You would not want to charge my car under direct sun at 12pm when it is already 50 degrees outside.
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c. Always Prefer chargers with higher KW for charging stops(double of what your car can support). search of 60KW chargers even when your car charging is capped at 30KW.
Because if you have to share the charger with another traveler, and always assume and plan like you will. the power will anyway be halved.
Do not rely on KW written on plugshare, it is usually wrong, always check the pics of the charger. If you still cannot find it there, open the app of the charger provider and search it out.

d. Follow a brand preference ranking: I ld like to keep my preference ranking personal because YYMV, but I ll share the top 2, which have never failed me. 1. Adani, 2. Statiq.

e. Always, and I cannot emphasize it more, always double check the charger status from the provider app. Plugshare is a very good tool, it is like an encyclopedia. But, it is sometimes wrong. Example: See this sunfuel charger on plugshare, it is disconnected and shows last used on 7th Jan 2024.
Always check charger status and Last used.
Double check the charger status 1 day before and again 30-60mins before reaching the charger location. So that you can plan an alternate charging location in case the charger has faulted, disconnected or in rare case of power outage or both ports busy. The charger provider app will always show the exact status.
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f. Because of inevitable point e. Always try to keep a backup charger in case your primary one fails.

g. Always aim to reach a charger with at least 20% SOC. So that you have enough charge to get to your secondary charger if primary one fails. I have once reached a charger with 3% SOC, and I would never want to do that again. Bonus: Keeping your SOC above 20 protects your battery from degradation.

h. Do not charge above 80% when DC charging unless absolutely necessary. It drops to 30kw and heats up and stresses the battery unnecessarily.

i. Always try to charge using AC when staying the night. Prefer hotels with AC chargers. If only DC is available, charge only till 60-80% on DC. And leave it on portable AC charger for the night. DC charging, especially repeated is very bad for battery health.
Slow AC charging helps rebalance the charge in the individual cells of your battery pack. And keeps it cool.

j. Save EV charger locations on you google maps: This is simple trick i follow, I have pinned all my google locations on my maps, so that I do not have to research before every trip/route. I randomly keep adding them whenever I get time. As on date I have almost 100 chargers pinned on my maps. You can also add comments like, provider brand and KW of charger along with outlet/eatery name like Costa coffee, McDonalds etc. This helps a lot on the highways and I do not have to reinvent the wheel everytime I head on to the same route.
Pin only the chargers which you feel are worth stopping at, do not crowd the list with useless chargers. Or, you can maintain multiple lists with different image logo for each list(like mine is a 2pin plug)
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V. Regen Modes:
Now this one is a YMMV (quite literally too).
Firstly, I have noticed every brand/model to have their Regen setting behave very differently from other.
Secondly, it depends on person to person, their driving style, traffic pattern and even mood.

Ioniq 5 technically has 7 Regen modes:
Regen Level 0: As the name suggests, no resistance whatsoever. While coasting, you feel like you are floating. Useful only for E-ways, where you are going to cruise for miles without any braking input. I also use this mode when going uphill, because gravity works as natural brakes and one needs to squeeze the maximum range on the hills.
Since I always keep the right section of my HU on power consumption screen, one thing I noticed was that braking input (even slight or strong) during this mode won’t return you any kind of charge. Again, as the name suggests, no regen whatsoever.
This mode has 0 lag. Since there is no pre-regen resistance, the pull is just insane. Put the car in regen 0 vs 3 and launch, you will feel exactly what I am talking about.

Regen level 1: This is my most used mode when I wish to drive spiritedly. Very convenient for absolute control of the vehicle and has minimal lag. The Regen braking during coasting feels natural Vis a Vis an ICE vehicle. 99% of my driving is handled by pulling the paddle into MAX regen. I am sure my brakes are going to last at least 1L Kms, if not more. The only time I need

Tap brakes the slightest, and the energy consumption display shows power returning to battery same as regen max mode. Safe to assume, that the vehicle switches to regen max as soon as one touches the brakes.

Regen Level 2: Useless filled mode between 1 and 3. I do not know how else to put it.

Regen level 3: This is a dedicated mode for bumper to bumper or high density traffic. I usually switch to this mode for local commute when I know the driving speed is going to remain under 40-50Kmph. For speeds above 50, I feel the constant surge from regen deceleration of level 3 to be too strong for my comfort and feels like a swing.
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iPedal Mode: Single pedal drive mode, I never could get myself to like this mode because you lose control over the vehicle. There is a lot of lag, the car drives a little farther after releasing the accelerator and uncomfortable swing effect will give you a whiplash.

I would rather drive the vehicle in Regen 3 and turn on ‘Auto Brake’ which allows one to release brake paddle after coming to a halt at a redlight. The car wont inch forward without any accelerator input.
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Regen Auto: This is gem of a mode in the Ioniq 5 and perfect for sedated driving in any kind of road/traffic conditions. I personally use it more than 90% of times.

This mode is so intuitive and works on ADAS sensors/Front Camera. It automatically increases the Regen level when you are nearing a vehicle/object in front of you. This mode completely eradicates the use of brakes. Coupled with momentary use of regen max, you can drive your car for hours without having to take your feet off the accelerator pedal.

As an icing on cake, you get to set the baseline regen level in Auto mode by clicking the paddle shifters ‘+’ or ‘-‘. I always keep it to the lowest as baseline which makes me feel like I am driving in Regen Level 1, unless nearing a vehicle from behind.
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Regen Max: This is an interim mode, you see and feel it when you keep pulling on the “+” Paddle Shifter, and goes away as soon as you release it. This mode is maximum regen deceleration and maximum power returned to your battery.
This mode does not and should not be used to substitute brakes in case of emergency braking/slowdown.
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The Ioniq 5 has 3 Regen Deceleration modes which can be changed/set from HU settings (Strong, Medium and Smooth), I always prefer mine in medium.
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In ideal cases, I have noticed that approx. 10-15% of energy loss occurs when the kinetic energy re-charges the battery using Regen braking.

During my trip to the hills, i noticed that the car disables regen braking completely, if going downhill post charging the battery to 100%, which I am sure is to safeguard the battery from overcharging.
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A few screenshots of driving the car downhill/mixed terrain during my return leg.
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Surprisingly good mileage, mostly because it was being driven by my wife.
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And, soon after I took over.
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VI. Charging tips and Battery Temps:
After a lot of research on the battery and reading ownership tips from various blogs, I realized that the batteries are quite sensitive to temperatures.

The NMC battery in Ioniq 5 is liquid cooled/heated and management of the same depends partially on the owner for longevity of the same. As long as the batteries remain in optimal temp range, they should last.

According to multiple sources on Google, the optimal temperatures for NMC battery are:
Ideal: 15 to 35 Degree C
Storage: -5 to 40 Degree C
Running: -10 to 40 Degree C
Charging: 10 to 45 Degree C

Few rules I follow to preserve the battery life is:
1. Never charge it under direct sun in summers. Especially fast (30Kwh+) DC Charging
2. Let battery conditioning feature do its job before every charge cycle (for harsh winters and summers)
3. Keep the battery charge limit to 80% from HU/ Bluelink app settings (70% in harsh summers). Unless you are going on a road trip or need max range the next day, in that case, charge it to 100%.
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4. Do not let the battery charge get below 20% (prefer 30%), unless rare cases while touring.
5. For home AC charging keep the charging speeds limited to 60% from the HU/ Bluelink app settings. It limits the charging speed to 6.7Kwh (11Kwh charger), which I feel is adequate for night charging.
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6. Refrain for charging during noon on peak summer days, as the ambient temp is already ~40 degree C. I have a basement parking which never crosses 35 degrees C, but I still try not to charge my car during noon, unless absolutely necessary.
7. Try to finish charging 2+ hours before starting the trip. On rare occasions when I have to stop charging and drive the car within the hour, I have seen battery care still working hard to cool the battery. Which I feel takes the unnecessary toll on the battery.

Now, this section might not be necessary or relevant for most of the owners, and I am just being extra cautious. So, I like to keep proper surveillance on the battery etc. during peak summer days. It is mostly because Indian summers are very harsh and under the sun, temps may very well pass 50 degree C which can be very bad for the batteries.

I am using Car Scanner application and Veepeak OBD Check BLE+ OBD scan tool. It has a plethora of sensor info. I will only stick to the ones useful for battery surveillance.
Battery module Temp (30 modules)
Coolant Temp in Individual Battery module
Coolant 2 Temp (Low Conductivity Battery Coolant)
Evaporator Temp (HVAC and Battery Care)
Battery heater (and Cooler) Temp
Battery Min (Temp of battery back with min temp)
Battery Max (Temp of battery back with max temp)
Motor Temp
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Few things I noticed and practices I follow to keep things under control:
1. The Battery Care kicks in if the battery temps cross ~38 C. you can see the power consumption if you keep the Energy Consumption active in the split screen of the HU. It shows up as green battery logo with a ‘+’ Sign inside it.
2 .How you use the HVAC is directly related to how aggressive battery care works. I have noticed and managed the settings many a times to be sure of it.
a. If you keep the AC temp at 17 C, the battery care will quickly cool down the batteries and keep them at temps under 28.
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b. At the same time, if you keep the HVAC at 22, the batteries will stay at ~32 C.
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c. The heat exchanger for the battery coolant works better if the evaporator is at a lower temp. I have noticed that the evaporator temperature goes as low as 1 C if you set the HVAC to 17 C and it hovers around 8-10 when the HVAC is at 22-24 C.
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3. Some battery modules cool more optimally than others, makes me wonder if the coolant connection is in series with the battery modules, and the coolant heats up quite a bit by the time it reaches ones in the end. There are 30 modules after all.
4. The motor is not cooled and the temps get as high as 65 C during spirited and expressway drives. No concern here.
5. Spirited Driving surely heats up the batteries.

I have driven the car in peak Delhi winters and I have not seen Battery conditioning/care kick in once hence my knowledge and experience of the same is limited.

Owners from colder countries report it kicking in and needed mostly when ambient temps get sub 0 C.

There are a lot of features and aids in this vehicle, most of them I am yet to experience/use to its capabilities. One is ADAS, which helped me a lot during one of my expressway drive in dense fog.
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I have also done a few customizations and added a few accessories to the vehicle.

ORVM Matter Black cover.
It looks aesthetically appealing and protects the ORVMs from rowdy bikers.
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Matte PPF.
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Hardwired Dashcam with rear camera
The process was simple, clean and fuss free, I will let the pics do the talking
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There is a Green LED glowing at all times whenever the car is parked, acts as a good deterrent
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Storage Manager
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Magnetic Phone holder
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CarLinkIT AI Android box with LTE
I had a spare data sim lying around, which now helps me preserve my phones from unnecessary battery degradation and overheating aka AA+ACP.
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HU and MID single piece Screen Guard
Get it installed from a known professional, so no issues there.
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Had 2 incidents with the car, both within 12 hours of each other.

Sidewall burst
Partially my fault. Thanks to GMaps, I took the car on unpaved road priming for tarmac, it was laden with sharp stones and the inevitable happened.
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Insurance thankfully replaced the tyre, one piece costs whooping 65k. The tyre was sourced from a dealer in Chennai and took 4 days to reach the dealership.
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Windshield edge crack
A stray flying stone from a bolero hit the edge of the windshield of my car near Jaipur and it just creased all the way to the middle, right in my line of sight.
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Insurance to the rescue, yet again.
The sound proof windshield and Molding were imported from South Korea on order and the parts were received within 6 days. the TAT was Quite impressive. Even the manufacturing month of the molding was current.
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I had my doubts, so I asked them to allow me to be present during the replacement and they obliged. The process was simple and finished within an hour. The car was kept overnight for sealant curing.
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The estimate price of the glass was approx 40k.

1st 10,000km service experience.
I went to Lamba Hyundai next to my office for the 1st service.
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They have a dedicated EV Service floor, which is enclosed and air conditioned. The customer lounge had a viewing window to the EV service floor
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The tools and lift bay are properly insulated. The checkup took some 40 minutes.
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Unable to keep myself to the customer lounge, I stepped on the service floor, but kept myself clear and well outside from the orange cones (I call them VLC media player) boundary.
All the tools in the EV bay had proper insulation and the staff working on my car was wearing double gloves.
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The independent rear suspension has a charm of it's own.
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The automated exterior washing and interior cleaning/dressing took around an hour.
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Since EVs (especially Hyundai) are rare, there was no waiting. They have dedicated EV staff.
I was charged some 50rs for the first service. (For disposable seat/steering cover etc.)
The service experience was 10/10. I reached the SC at 9 am and was out at 11 am. Hope they maintain it to the same levels in the long run.

Ownership Experience: The Pamper

I was also invited to an event by Hyundai India. It was a fashion show at Taj Palace hotel. The invitation included +1 so my wife and I went. We were both introduced with Hyundai India leadership team including the CEO and marketing head. There were delegates also present at the event from the Hyundai Global team.
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Got to see movie stars.
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There was a wrapped Ioniq5 right next to the ramp. Hyundai surely is doing all it can to market the Ioniq 5.
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And another one just outside the auditorium, in the newly launched shade.
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Some Parting pics of Other cars in my Garage.
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Why are the tools packed and insulated, and why are the guys wearing double gloves? Seems to me like a gimmick to impress customers.
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II. DIY Extension Cord

After researching a lot online, and checking out many extension cords, i was not comfortable with the quality/length/safetly of the Cords i found online.
so, Decided to build my own.

It has come handy on 7 different occasions till now. All Homestays and most of Hotels/ resorts I've been to are not ready for EVs. But because i had this Extension, I did not have to plan my stays in remote areas at the mercy of Properties with charging Points at parking area. may it be Rann of kutch or Dholavira in Gujrat, or Barot and Bir in himachal. This thing is truly a life saver for a traveller like me.

Ordered 2 parts online. Adding Amazon Link of the items, so that it helps others.

1. Waterproof 16Amp Socket : this was an Anchor socket, which i planned to replace with Norisys 25amp socket, but after seeing the quality and using it multiple times without any issues, dropped the plan.

This is a nice way to be independent of the EV charging facility, good thought!

However, I would suggest you add a reliable MCB / ELCB socket (available online / shops) as your first interface, as you may not want to fully depend on the electrical infrastructure of the charging place and be rest assured that you have fully safe guarded charging of your priced possession in an unknown terrain.

Cheers to many more miles on your EV!

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[quote=Lego28;5840728]Had 2 incidents with the car, both within 12 hours of each other.

Sidewall burst
Partially my fault. Thanks to GMaps, I took the car on unpaved road priming for tarmac, it was laden with sharp stones and the inevitable happened.
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Insurance thankfully replaced the tyre, one piece costs whooping 65k. The tyre was sourced from a dealer in Chennai and took 4 days to reach the dealership
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Surprising, that Michelin tyres don't provide for unconditional warranty on tyres. It appears to be a cut on sidewall which, ideally, should have been covered under warranty. Lucky, that you had that covered under the insurance!

May be during the next tyre change, you want to think of Bridgestone or Yokohama, who claim (links below) to provide unconditional warranty.

Bridgestone warranty https://s7g10.scene7.com/is/content/...ty%20Policypdf

Yokohama warranty
https://www.yokohama-india.com/page/warranty
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An exhaustive and well documented review covering the functional and practical aspects which generally one won't find in a car review on youtube. Can you please let us know what is the real world range that you have been getting in various scenarios. Thank you for sharing and keep on munching miles.
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Thanks for the excellent write up. Did Hyundai not make a noise about the hardwired dashcam impacting your warranty?

I own a Tata Nexon Max EV with a 40.5kwh battery and a real world range of about 280 to 300kms. My reason for switching to am EV in March 2023 was to experience driving an automatic in the mad Bangalore traffic and explore this new technology .

One important aspect of re-learning driving habits comes to mind when you switch from driving an ICE to an EV. For me, it was keeping the drive smooth, more by indulging in single pedal driving so as to maximise the distance covered per kwh. Driving at the right regen setting, depending on the traffic encountered has taught me to anticipate stoppages better. This was a new learning for me. In my Nexon Max EV, I've done about 11k kms in about 18 months.
Another important point is having fellow EV support groups where valuable inputs can be gleaned whether it is about long distance travels or related to the many issues we Tata EV owners have faced ( and continue to face). The service experience we face is far far different from the air-conditioned comfort that Hyundai offers to its Ioniq 5 customers! Tata better improve its customer support network especially for EVs.

I have been seeing improved charging environment on our highways month on month.
Thanks again for the detailed information!
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Why are the tools packed and insulated, and why are the guys wearing double gloves? Seems to me like a gimmick to impress customers.
Really? It’s for the safety of the technician. You need special tools to work on EVs. Since it’s Hyundai, they have a proper workflow for the tools to be used.

It’s in no way to impress the customer, unless you think safety is a gimmick.
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