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Old 5th October 2024, 20:22   #196
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

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For those who have booked, what is your promised delivery date?

The dealer here in Chandigarh is clueless about the vehicle allocation. They even haven't got the test drive vehicle with them. I met the sales GM today in person for the vehicle he's mentioned that he will get Any update only after 8th October 2024. Wondering how will they start deliveries by 13th!

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Old 5th October 2024, 20:37   #197
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

I have booked the car for my father. Idea is to sell off my father's current Kia Seltos Diesel and replace it with the Windsor. His usage is largely within the city, and with an occasional Bangalore-Mysore run for which a range of 250km is more than sufficient. Since we have sufficient surplus from our rooftop solar plant, I suppose running costs will be close to zero. I only need to ensure that his driver gets comfortable with EVs and charging.

I did a test drive of the Windsor today. Got a chance to test the pick-up on the empty Mysore ring-road and also some rough and tumble on a pothole scarred road.

The pick-up in normal mode is good, but unlike other EVs it isn't exhilarating. Sport mode is definitely better, but still isn't as raw as what other Tata EVs offer. I would say it is on par with most ICE turbo engines. I see this as a plus, because in my case the car is going to be largely chauffeur driven; I might even lock out the sport mode if possible.

The suspension on smooth roads was very decent. On bumpy potholed roads, I was very comfortable on the front seats. The rear was less so - definitely road bumps are felt in the rear. Not a deal-breaker since thankfully the car will be largely used in a city with well kept roads (Mysore).

The floor height is a bit high and so my father (5' 9", 80+ years old) found it a bit difficult to climb into the rear seat. Since the seat is set a bit high off the ground, he found it easier to to get in by sitting on the seat first and then pulling his legs in. This is a factor to consider if you are considering the car for the elderly. Once seated, he found it very comfortable.

The touchscreen controls are a mess. For example, the toggle for opening the sun-blind is 2 menus deep in the UI. MG better have a good voice command system since it's impossible to operate the touchscreen when driving. On that note, I think I might be in a bit of a pickle; my father's loyal driver only speaks Kannada and that isn't a supported language. Guess I need to set everything to "auto" and hope for the best. ORVM adjustment is possible with the steering mounted buttons, but with a bit of a learning curve since the buttons are "overloaded" i.e. have multiple functions. Headlight flashing and high/low beam changes are thankfully possible through the stalk.

For all the tech it carries strangely I didn't see a USB port or a charging socket for the rear seat. Maybe we will need to draw a cable from the ports in front all the way back to the rear seat. Minor annoyance.

The sound insulation was quite nice - traffic sounds don't make themselves felt within the cabin. The EV while is audible only when accelerating hard and that too isn't bothersome. There is a bit of road noise but again not enough to trouble. I also didn't notice any wind noise at the speeds I hit (<80kmph).

As far as the interiors are concerned, while they are completely functional, you get a feeling that it's all a bit bare. Maybe because there are such few controls, and such few areas to embellish? But the interior doesn't feel plush at all.

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Old 5th October 2024, 22:53   #198
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

So i did visit MG this afternoon and took a test ride.

Today being a Saturday, the place was very crowded and so all I got was a very short test ride.

Nothing different to what other reviewers have said.

I have found the Driver console / speedometer dashboard very impractical and hard to read. Was glaring and washed out.

The fonts were too small.

The ride was other wise ok.

The Finance manager suggested that i go for a standard plain vanilla vehicle loan with a public sector bank like SBI, as opposed to going with an NBFC.

I could understand that the BAAS is more of a marketing gimmick and nothing much.

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Old 5th October 2024, 23:24   #199
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

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For those who have booked, what is your promised delivery date?
Not showing anything yet, I had pre-booked/reserved before public bookings opened and was supposed to get allocation/delivery date by 4th but none so far. Dealership says delay from MG, they are also waiting.

Deliveries were to start from 11th but now saying 12th, I think there are gonna be delays.

On otherhand, today their financial manager called me to ask for loan documents, not sure if related to allocation/delivery or just a pre-sanction.

MG website doesn't show any date yet.

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For all the tech it carries strangely I didn't see a USB port or a charging socket for the rear seat. Maybe we will need to draw a cable from the ports in front all the way back to the rear seat. Minor annoyance.
There is a USB C port for rear seats, in all variants. You probably missed it, have checked it during my visit and you can also confirm the same in the brochure
https://s7ap1.scene7.com/is/content/...c-pdf-0369.pdf

Unfortunately, a Dashcam port is missing, so thinking to take the Dashcam from MG itself as their Demo car had very nice and hidden wiring for it.

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I have found the Driver console / speedometer dashboard very impractical and hard to read. Was glaring and washed out.
The fonts were too small.

The ride was other wise ok.

The Finance manager suggested that i go for a standard plain vanilla vehicle loan with a public sector bank like SBI, as opposed to going with an NBFC.

I could understand that the BAAS is more of a marketing gimmick and nothing much.
Yep, the Odo/Speedometer is really bad, it feels even smaller or hard to read than MG Comet, that is one part where they really messed up.

You need to focus on it to read or find whatever you need, which is bad as takes away focus from road/driving.

Unfortunately that seems one of those things which you will have to get used to by driving more and more.

FYI for anyone wondering, Private Banks are offering around 9-9.1% ROI while public sector banks are doing 8.7% "EV Loans", I am going with Union as my Comet loan also with them and its 8.7%

Not to mention, 0 foreclosure and prepayment charges

90% Funding, 7 years (company purchase, thus want minimal downpayment and maximum EMI)

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Old 6th October 2024, 12:43   #200
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

This is the first actual EV platform now available in India in hot segment of 10 to 18 lacs. What we had till now were pseudo EV’s with batteries and electric motors fitted in ICE platforms. Given the success of these pseudo EVs till date..Windsor will be huge success for not only MG but for consumers as well. Matured and reliable platform with high quality and one of the best ASS will make it a smash hit.

Manufacturers of pseudo EVs will have tough time until they improve and develop there own EV platforms.
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Old 6th October 2024, 18:29   #201
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Wish they make a seven seater version of this with adjustable middle row. It should not be difficult as it has huge cabin space yet not very long due to being a pure EV platform.
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Old 6th October 2024, 18:38   #202
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Congratulations to all those who have booked or are in the process of buying this car. I think this is a better buy than Tata Curve. All said and done missing bottle holders for front seats is unpardonable. The fit and finish is also excellent.

Apart from personal buyers who may not go in for BaaS, for EV taxi companies like Blusmart, BaaS is great option. This will keep their capex low and the battery rental could get covered in the per km cost. Also with ample rear seat space and large boot space these will be perfect for airport runs.
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Old 6th October 2024, 19:02   #203
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I don't think BluSmart will prefer BaaS since they anyways buy all these companies in an SVP which borrows money from various domestic and international lenders (even IFCs and others of the world since they market it as a green investment). To that extent, their cost of borrowing will be lower or at par with other fin-techs/companies offering BaaS.

Also, there are couple of other reasons for them to not take BaaS:
1. Their running is simply too much and unstructured, which will lead to operational challenges for them i.e. coordination with BaaS folks for regular payments (with different payment cycles etc.)
2. They will not get depreciation benefits since the battery will not be on their books.
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Old 7th October 2024, 06:51   #204
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

What do you all think about the lack of underbody protection, leaving the motor exposed? This issue has been mentioned in this review, but not many seemed to bother about it. Besides, I remember reading somewhere that rustproofing or adding an underbody protection may void the warranty of EV vehicles.

Anyone thinking of getting it done? Did not see it in the list of accessories.
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Old 7th October 2024, 08:42   #205
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

Hi. This is a question for all those who have booked MG Windsor especially with the dealer directly, does the link below work for you?

https://www.mgmotor.co.in/tools/complete-your-booking?

Whenever I put my booking details it just keeps loading. On the loading screen I can notice there is a section that has "Expected delivery date from the day of booking".
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Whenever I put my booking details it just keeps loading. On the loading screen I can notice there is a section that has "Expected delivery date from the day of booking".
Same here. It just keeps loading without any result. I spoke to the SA yesterday. He says the latest update is that vehicles have been transported. Updates will be available 3 days before delivery. 12th is likely when the deliveries will start so hopefully some update by 9th!
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Old 7th October 2024, 13:45   #207
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Hi. This is a question for all those who have booked MG Windsor especially with the dealer directly, does the link below work for you?

https://www.mgmotor.co.in/tools/complete-your-booking?

Whenever I put my booking details it just keeps loading. On the loading screen I can notice there is a section that has "Expected delivery date from the day of booking".
Try to track here - https://www.mgmotor.co.in/tools/booking-status
Works for me although Delivery Date shows yet to be updated

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Same here. It just keeps loading without any result. I spoke to the SA yesterday. He says the latest update is that vehicles have been transported. Updates will be available 3 days before delivery. 12th is likely when the deliveries will start so hopefully some update by 9th!
Got similar reply that allocations will be done/updated on 11th and they are still claiming/expecting deliveries to begin from 12th Which btw was expected to start from 11th still booking had opened.

But yes, I have also gotten similar confirmation that the production/stock is already ready and all major (city) dealerships are allotted 100-150 units for first delivery batch.

PS: I was able to negotiate the insurance from 90k to 60k, expecting to bring it down further more. One thing that hurts is no public insurer (website) is quoting anything below to have the dealerships price match it.
Right now I have contacted 3rd Party Insurance Agent/Services as they tend to have more discounts available to get a quote and have dealership match it, since they have already offered to Bring-Your-Own-Insurer.

Right now I am at 15.5L + 60k + 4k (registration, no RTO), + 15k (TCS)

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In yesterday's visit with my brother in law (to a different dealership), I again got conflicting info for BaaS (Bajaj) that for my Cibil of 800 I can get 100% funding, 9% interest for 8 year loan which actually works very well for me (company purchase).
The conflicting info was that Bajaj BaaS would be 8 years, and even if you foreclose (exit), you need to pay the full amount that would have been charged till 8 year i.e. 5.04L
So even if you want to sell car or exit at year 3, you still pay 5L for battery.

Normally in "loans" thats not how it works, but thats why they are not terming it a loan but a service/subscription and so they can have their own SLA.

And so, we are again at a stalemate for BaaS that till anyone is able to get their hands on the T&C on paper, dealerships still seem as clueless as before.
And they still donot have any agents in showroom or contact from those 4 Financiers to explain anything.
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Old 7th October 2024, 14:39   #208
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

For buyers negotiating on insurance, the Acko website quotes 28,862 +GST for comprehensive plan Windsor Exclusive (mid variant). The zero-dep version is 33,237 + GST.

This is half the insurance rates quoted by MG dealers.

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Old 7th October 2024, 14:52   #209
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Same here. It just keeps loading without any result. I spoke to the SA yesterday. He says the latest update is that vehicles have been transported. Updates will be available 3 days before delivery. 12th is likely when the deliveries will start so hopefully some update by 9th!

In my case the Wakad dealership sales advisor is not even answering my calls. I need to plan for downpayment and yet to take a test ride. The only time I spoke to sales advisor was on the day of making an online booking. Sales person called to take aadhar detail and no communication thereafter.

I have always had a lukewarm response from that dealership even when their other cars were available on demand, safe to say they would act pricey with Windsor. But I am not concerned as there are more EVs incoming from next year. Maybe they end up doing me a favour.

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Try to track here - https://www.mgmotor.co.in/tools/booking-status
Works for me although Delivery Date shows yet to be updated
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This only shows the details that were set at the time of booking. Since sales person is not speaking I wanted to check if we can track booking online and get information about delivery date like Mahindra does.

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Old 7th October 2024, 14:55   #210
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[quote=guptad42;5855143]For buyers negotiating on insurance, the Acko website quotes 28,862 +GST for comprehensive plan Windsor Exclusive (mid variant). The zero-dep version is 33,237 + GST.

This is half the insurance rates quoted by MG dealers.

/QUOTE]

Hi, thanks for the information. May I request you to check with other insurance providers, e.g. Tata AIA, Iffco Tokio, ICICI Lombard, Bajaj Allianz etc. so that people have fair idea of the insurance cost. The insurance should be zero dep with battery coverage in case of flood or damaged to battery due to water entering the battery.
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