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Old 2nd November 2024, 19:16   #421
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

My 2 reasons to prefer MG ZS EV were the dimensions (Windsor perceived as a larger Car) and then the battery size and quality (ZS EV gets the bigger and better battery) I was casually going through the differences between MG Windsor and MG ZS EV. On paper Windsor is not that 'big' as compared to ZS EV. By size I mean the exteriors considering we drive in heavy traffic and populated cities. In the pic, left column is of Windsor. Infact ZS EV is longer than Windsor however Windsor is wider than ZS EV. Bhpians who have already started to drive their Windsor kindly share feedback on how practical it is as a daily drive, parking and maneouring in densely populated cities.
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My 2 reasons to prefer MG ZS EV were the dimensions (Windsor perceived as a larger Car) and then the battery size and quality (ZS EV gets the bigger and better battery) I was casually going through the differences between MG Windsor and MG ZS EV. On paper Windsor is not that 'big' as compared to ZS EV. By size I mean the exteriors considering we drive in heavy traffic and populated cities. In the pic, left column is of Windsor. Infact ZS EV is longer than Windsor however Windsor is wider than ZS EV. Bhpians who have already started to drive their Windsor kindly share feedback on how practical it is as a daily drive, parking and maneouring in densely populated cities.
You're right to point out the ZS EV's advantages in length and range. However, in almost every other dimension, the MG Windsor comes out on top. While the ZS EV might be longer, the Windsor's width often makes it feel larger, especially in terms of interior space.
More importantly, the Windsor is a born EV, built on a dedicated electric platform. This translates to better packaging, improved efficiency, and a more refined driving experience compared to the ZS EV, which is a converted ICE platform. This fundamental difference significantly impacts the overall feel and performance of the vehicles.
Finally, considering the ZS EV is priced significantly higher than the Windsor, the value proposition of the Windsor becomes even more compelling. You get more advanced tech, a better driving experience, and a more modern EV for a considerably lower price. For those prioritizing value, the Windsor is undoubtedly the winner.

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I have driven close to 1,400 km and have charged using multiple service providers, including Zeon, Statiq, Chargeone, and BP Plus. All charges have been free, without my spending a penny on EV charging. I have noticed that some apps require a minimum balance to start charging. I topped up few apps to a minimum of ₹50 to initiate charging, and it has worked very well. So far, I have charged at various outlets multiple times without issue.

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Old 2nd November 2024, 22:54   #423
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However, in almost every other dimension, the MG Windsor comes out on top. While the ZS EV might be longer, the Windsor's width often makes it feel larger, especially in terms of interior space. For those prioritizing value, the Windsor is undoubtedly the winner.
Value of Windsor is difficult to contest. I am highlighting that, prospects like me are staying away from Windsor because it is perceived as a 'Big' car. In reality, it is pretty similar to ZS EV. If one is not going for Windsor because of the size then the same should not consider the ZS EV as well. Windsor is more curvy whereas ZS EV is sharper. May be because of the curvy (no pun intended Tata) body of Windsor, it feels like a bigger car than ZS EV. The driving pleasure will also be different. ZS EV would feel like a more drivers' car whereas Windsor would feel like a people carrier. My budget really permits Windsor Essence but I have been smitten by ZS EV Excite Pro as a package.
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Value of Windsor is difficult to contest. I am highlighting that, prospects like me are staying away from Windsor because it is perceived as a 'Big' car. In reality, it is pretty similar to ZS EV. If one is not going for Windsor because of the size then the same should not consider the ZS EV as well. Windsor is more curvy whereas ZS EV is sharper. May be because of the curvy (no pun intended Tata) body of Windsor, it feels like a bigger car than ZS EV. The driving pleasure will also be different. ZS EV would feel like a more drivers' car whereas Windsor would feel like a people carrier. My budget really permits Windsor Essence but I have been smitten by ZS EV Excite Pro as a package.

You're right to address the perception of the Windsor being "too big." It's important to clarify that its size is comparable to the ZS EV. If size is a concern regarding the Windsor, it should equally be a concern for the ZS EV. The difference lies in the design language: the Windsor's curves create a visual impression of larger size compared to the ZS EV's sharper lines. This distinction also influences the driving experience. The ZS EV likely offers a sportier, driver-focused feel, while the Windsor prioritizes comfort and passenger space, making it an excellent "people carrier."
If a sportier driving experience and a slightly smaller footprint are paramount, the ZS EV might be the better choice. However, if you prioritize overall value, space, comfort, and a richer feature set within your budget, the Windsor Essence emerges as a strong contender. It offers a compelling blend of practicality and features without the price tag of the ZS EV.

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Anyone figured or successfully used Free Charging via partner app ?
I followed the instructions SA told me and tested first public charging from MG e-hub app, via Jio-BP Pulse 60KW charger.
e-hub was showing 100% Free for Windsor banner, I installed the Jio-BP app and then clicking Open Partner app from MG e-hub app auto-opens QR scanner for the Jio-BP app.
So far, this is the workflow SA had told me.

But the Jio-BP app told me I had 0 balance and I added 500Rs. and did the charging, and got charged Rs. 300.
SA had told me not to do any recharge/balance in partner app but without adding any balance the app wouldn't let proceed to start charging.

PS: Got my Turquoise Green color delivered today 15.5L ex-showroom, 60k insurance MG-Secure Elite (via Reliance), 15k TCS, 4k RTO (file charges, actual RTO is 0 in UP) and 41k for accessories as I took a lot (actually quite a few of them were out of stock as my own estimate was 70k)
I've successfully used free charging across various providers, including ZEON, Statiq, BP Pulse, and Charge One, without encountering any problems. My Turquoise Green Windsor EV arrived just last week.

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Could the new owners (congrats to your folks) give your experience with the following questions that I have:
- How is in-city driving, does the car seem too bulky and less maneuverable (eg in Bangalore traffic) given its large size. Which car would you compare it with for maneuverability, is it Innova or Scorpio or XUV700, or ... ?

- How are feeling about the low position of the head-lights? Does it remain hidden when following a vehicle or the dipper works fine for you?
I've had a positive experience driving in the city so far. While the Windsor EV is larger than the typical city car, it's manageable and not as bulky as an Innova or XUV700. The headlights have performed well, with no issues to report.

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Value of Windsor is difficult to contest. I am highlighting that, prospects like me are staying away from Windsor because it is perceived as a 'Big' car. In reality, it is pretty similar to ZS EV. If one is not going for Windsor because of the size then the same should not consider the ZS EV as well. Windsor is more curvy whereas ZS EV is sharper. May be because of the curvy (no pun intended Tata) body of Windsor, it feels like a bigger car than ZS EV. The driving pleasure will also be different. ZS EV would feel like a more drivers' car whereas Windsor would feel like a people carrier. My budget really permits Windsor Essence but I have been smitten by ZS EV Excite Pro as a package.
It is not the same width. In paper Windsor is 1850mm without mirrors. That is just 5mm less than my Fortuner's width. The ZS is a good 4-5 CM less than my Fortuner. After my test drive, I felt I will be able to take my Fortuner everywhere Windsor manages to go. Offcourse, the shorter length and the front wheels of Windsor being very close to the front end makes a difference in tight spaces. ZS is narrower and can manage smaller gaps better.

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It is not the same width. In paper Windsor is 1850mm without mirrors. That is just 5mm less than my Fortuner's width. The ZS is a good 4-5 CM less than my Fortuner. After my test drive, I felt I will be able to take my Fortuner everywhere Windsor manages to go. Offcourse, the shorter length and the front wheels of Windsor being very close to the front end makes a difference in tight spaces. ZS is narrower and can manage smaller gaps better.
Thanks. That's a good evaluation. Probably the pricing is lucrative to let prospects buy Windsor + Comet at the price of MG ZS EV. If you look at it, that's not a bad idea at all
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My 2 reasons to prefer MG ZS EV were the dimensions (Windsor perceived as a larger Car) and then the battery size and quality (ZS EV gets the bigger and better battery) ..
These are exterior dimensions but if you look and sit inside, the Windsor is even more spacious than my Scorpio (considering 1st and 2nd rows of seats), while ZS EV felt similar to EcoSport when I had TD both Windsor and ZS EV back-to-back.
That is the advantage of born electric design.

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ZS EV vs Windsor EV

On this topic, I recall my decision 9 years ago when I bought the Polo GT TSI. It costed 10 lakhs (with lifetime tax), whereas Honda Jazz CVT was available for about 2 lakhs less. A mid-variant Honda City (S) CVT was also available for 10 lakhs. Both Jazz and City were more spacious, but the Polo felt way better to drive. It was all about priorities.

The price difference between ZS EV full-featured variant and the Windsor is probably even higher. Still, if budget is not a big issue and one wants a driver's car (better performance and range), (s)he would go for the ZS EV, or wait for more upcoming cars. I have seen videos of ZS EV beating even Skoda Octavia till 100km+ speed.

The value for money of Windsor is unmatched if it does not hurt your priorities.
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Did anyone figure out how to do free public charging at Statiq chargers ?
Cant figure it out for hell of it
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Took delivery of my Pearl white Windsor on 30th October. Perfect timing of delivery enabled me to take this beauty for our anniversary trip on 1st to Bekal.
Starting from Mysore with SOC of 70% we left at 7.30 morning and stopped after ~ 70-75km with 43% SOC for breakfast. Put the car on charge at Static station. Took 41min to charge to 98%. Reached the destination with 45% charge left.
On Sunday after local travel was left with 25% SOC. Topped up at a Zeon station while having lunch and it took 1hr to go from 25 to 99%. Started on return journey and stopped at another Zeon station with SOC at 42% and charged to 82% in 47min. Reached home with 57% SOC. The last 118km consumed just 30% battery, madikeri to Mysore. Downhill from 1000m to 750m elevation helped I think.


Had a seamless experience at all 3 charging stations. Opened eHUB by MG app. Continued to partner app and initiated the charge. Whole trip covered with zero fuel expense.

Entire trip was of 515km and the approx range I could get was 282km. Starting from mysore (750m) via Madikeri (1000m) to Bekal (sea level) and back. Nowhere I wasted time for charging. Charging always happened while we took break for food.

Got my Teambhp membership today. Right time to post my Windsor experience.
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Does anyone know how or where to sell the 7.4KW charger that comes free ? I cannot make use of it due to apartment rules and already have a 3KW charger installed, so want to sell it off.
Hi..I am interested in buying the 7.4KW charger as my variant Exclusive comes with 3.3 KW charger only. I am yet to get the car. Dealer says I have been allowed a car and its in the process of shipping from factory. Maybe I will get it by last week of November.
Since I am a new member I am unable PM/DM you regarding the specifics for buying this charger. Kindly PM me if its possible for you..Thank you
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Congratulations on your new car
Thank you for sharing your first trip details. I have booked an Exclusive variant and waiting for the call from Dealer regarding delivery date. As some of the members asked previously, what's the tyre pressure you kept while on the trip? The MG recommended pressure appears little high. Will reducing it to 35 PSI will smoothen the ride quality?
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Hi..I am interested in buying the 7.4KW charger as my variant Exclusive comes with 3.3 KW charger only. I am yet to get the car. Dealer says I have been allowed a car and its in the process of shipping from factory. Maybe I will get it by last week of November.
Since I am a new member I am unable PM/DM you regarding the specifics for buying this charger. Kindly PM me if its possible for you..Thank you
Someone just picked up the charger today, sold for 25k~

Also, I received the reimbursement refund for the 2 paid charging sessions I did last week, technically received refund in 3 working days. So good to know that.

And regarding my Statiq Free Charging thing, I don't know how but it again started auto-charging somehow for free, this was the 2nd time.
I think there is something in Statiq app triggering the charge start but not sure, perhaps that Auto Charge enrollment popup it does ?
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You can buy a 7.4KW charger from STATIQ. It's called Nectar and costs 35K. I think the MG one costs 50K.

You can use the app to order it or use this is link https://www.statiq.in/nectar
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Re: MG Windsor EV Review

My impressions of my new Windsor EV:

Specs:
-- Windsor EV
-- Essence
-- Turquoise Green

How much I've driven -- 1200km
Name of the car: The wifey and I have decided to call it the Wuling


Booking process:
-- Smooth. No real complaints here. Got the delivery within 20 days of booking. I booked it on 6th or 7th October and got the delivery a few days back.
Didn't go for Baas.

What I think of the new MG EV:
We also have an XUV 400 at home. So, my impressions on the Windsor are mostly in direct comparison to the XUV.

The pros:
  • I love the design. It looks a little funky from the front but apart from that, it's a really cool looking design.
  • The build quality: There's not a loose fitting on the car and believe me, I've searched. It feels sturdy. I drove a Pajero Sport prior to the Windsor and I'm not kidding when I say that this feels much sturdier than the Pajero. Obviously, there's no comparison when it comes to off readability but I'm talking about fit and finish here.
  • Range: Eco mode, with AC, at speeds of around 90-100, without cruise control, I've got 270km. That's fantastic as far as I'm concerned. It's not that high but MG only claim 330 to begin with. Also, I'm pretty certain that if I drove it with cruise control in Eco mode (not Eco Plus), I could easily add another 20km or so to the range. This is a genuine pro for me.
  • Free charging: This is a masterclass in marketing. When converted to money, MG isn't spending a lot of money on this. In a year, even if you were to drive it for 20,000 km, you're looking at around ₹40,000 in charging costs and yet, this is such a feel good factor. Even if MG had offered me ₹50,000 in cash discount, I don't think it would make me this happy. I know it's silly but again, it's all about that feel good factor and boy does it make you feel good!
  • The little things: MG has added a lot of useful little features that make your life comfortable. A prime example of this is the auto hold feature. If you've driven automatics, you'll know that one of the more frustrating things about stop lights in city traffic is that you have to shift from D to P every time. If the signal's only 30 seconds, for example, you have to shift from D to P to D again. Well, there's this nifty little feature on the MG where if you double tap the break or if you press it HARD, it engages auto hold. So, when you're at the lights, you slow down, stop, and just tap the break a couple of times. When you move again, you just accelerate. This is fantastic.
  • The regen braking: In the XUV 400, the regen is so strong that it's jarring. It may get more charge into your batteries but I've wished several times that it was smoother. In the MG, it is.
  • Road noise: I read the reviews here and elsewhere and was expecting it to be a bus or something. I was pleasantly surprised. It really isn't. In fact, if you haven't read the reviews, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't notice that it's very loud. It's not. I even did consecutive runs in the XUV and the MG to check this properly. The difference is barely noticeable.
  • That auto open-close thingy: I don't know the exact term that MG uses but basically, the car opens when you get close to it and closes when you move away from it. The feature is nice, sure, but what really impressed me was the consistency of it. It works EVERY single time. I haven't seen it fail a single time, yet. But do note that this is disabled by default (why?) and you have to enable it on the big screen.

The Cons:
  1. Power: The XUV is clearly, much more powerful and has a superior pickup when compared to the MG. This one's just a little too unhappy to pick up its skirts and run
  2. Clunky software: Thankfully, I haven't encountered a lot of this but yeah, it's there and to be honest, I did expect some of it. Think of Android phones about 10 years ago. That's the lag we're talking about. It's not much but it's there. You press something and it takes half a second more than you were expecting it to take. By contrast, our Hyundai Venue was fantastic. Not a split second of lag on that one.
  3. There's too much glass: The majority of kilometers I've put on this one are thanks to a road trip that me and the Mrs. took from Bengaluru to Pondicherry. Sunny days and a sunny drive. The AC cooled the cabin very quickly but due to the sheer volume of glass that surrounds you, you can feel the sun a little more than I'd like.
  4. The instrument cluster: I'm not talking about the big screen but the little one that shows your speed and so on. The one on the XUV feels like it's from 2050. Snazzy graphics, slick motions -- it's a party. This one is just outright dull. It doesn't show a lot of information and it's not that customizable either. Bummer
  5. Trip meter: This one's downright annoying. I knew about this before I bought it but God, it infuriates me. There's ONE trip meter. ONE. I'd love to know which genius decided that this was a good idea. Pretty much every single car gets two trip meters. I honestly cannot figure out why this one doesn't have it. Also, and I'm not kidding, I still haven't figured out how to reset the one trip meter that does exist. Yes, I know that it's there somewhere in the big screen and if I spend five minutes looking for it, I'll know and then it won't be a bother but it's not supposed to be this difficult. It should be a little button in front of the speedometer or something that easy. I cannot believe this but this is my biggest complaint with this car
  6. Auto wipers: The default sensitivity is a little too high. You can fix this on the big screen and it solves 90% of the problem. The 10% is that it's a little too hesitant to go from intermittent to low or high. We were on the highway and there was a short period of heavy rain and this was easily noticeable. Probably a software fix but I don't know if enough people will complain about this.

And that's about it.

Overall impressions:

I LOVE IT! This is a fantastic car and I don't regret buying it. To those worrying about the range, don't. I did a thousand kilometer road trip and I think I spent one hour extra on the road because it was an EV. Or else, it was during lunch breaks, coffee breaks, and so on.
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