[drhk10]

Originally Posted by AJ0811

Hi,
I would like to sell the 7.4 KW charger that I received with my Windsor Essence as I can’t install it in my society. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks.

Yes, I am interested. MG guys are visiting my premises for the feasibility study by weekend. I would be able to confirm it only by then. How can I contact you? Is email or mobile number sharing okay here as we as newbies don't have direct message privileges..

[Voltzzzzz]

Originally Posted by drhk10

Yes, I am interested. MG guys are visiting my premises for the feasibility study by weekend. I would be able to confirm it only by then. How can I contact you? Is email or mobile number sharing okay here as we as newbies don't have direct message privileges..

You can download my vCard from profile which will have my mail id. And contact me.

[Taruns_Hah]

My wife and I did two test drives. This car ticks all the right boxes in terms of cost and features.

However, we both felt that there was one major dealbreaker. The car is extremely unsettled in the 10 - 50 km range especially on regular mumbai roads which normally have at least some potholes or indulations. You always feel queasy in the stomach. After a 20 min test drive, I felt a bit like how I do after a mountain ride. The problem seems to be most in the front passenger seat. In fact, i had gotten the tyre pressure reduced to 33 before the 2nd test drive. Also kept the regen at low. Both these points helped a bit, but not much.

Is anyone else facing a similar issue? Its the main reason we are not going ahead with buying it.

[hardik7]

Originally Posted by dexter_dr

3. Clay beige is conspicuously missing in all online reviews and showrooms (atleast ones in Chennai). Did anyone see that in flesh and any opinions on the looks would be greatly appreciated.

Please refer below photos of clay beige. I have not seen this color in person but SA sent me these photos.

[Ashwathama]

Originally Posted by Voltzzzzz

1. Ventilated front seats.
2. Moon roof.
3. 9 speaker system with sub woofer.
4. Fast charger.
5. 256 colour ambient lights.
6. Air filter

These are additional in the top variant compared to mid.

Mid variant is real value for money compared to the base variant if you don’t need the fast charger, summers don’t get too hot in your place, and the speaker system doesn’t excite you.

I agree. Initially I was going for the mid variant as I don’t listen to a lot of music. But then I wanted the fast charger which the showroom executive said would cost 40-50k. So I thought why not pay 50k extra and get the top end model and the fast charger free. Honestly, 15hour charging requires a lot of planning. I have to find out a way to get the fast charger installed and make it work. It’s just more convenient.

Originally Posted by hardik7

Please refer below photos of clay beige. I have not seen this color in person but SA sent me these photos.

Does the clay beige windsor look similar to the empowered oxide nexon ev? Can anyone confirm? Because if that’s the case this will look very good.

[psbali]

Originally Posted by Taruns_Hah

My wife and I did two test drives. This car ticks all the right boxes in terms of cost and features.

I also took a test ride yesterday and I had similar thoughts. The drive is very lackluster and underwhelming. It was missing that fineness that Nexon EV has.

I guess it is the 18 inch tyres. I guess MG is much more relaxed about mods on their EVs unlike Tata so if we replace 18 inch to 16 inch it should help? I believe 16 inch itself is an overkill for a car this size and MG went ahead and put 18 inch wheels.

[Taruns_Hah]

Originally Posted by psbali

I guess it is the 18 inch tyres. I guess MG is much more relaxed about mods on their EVs unlike tata so if we replace 18 inch to 16 inch it should help? I believe 16 inch itself is an overkill for a car this size and MG went ahead and put 18 inch wheels.

Many people on Team-BHP have advised that reducing the tyre pressure and tyre size would help. I reduced the tyre pressure to 33 and that barely helped. Even if reducing the tyre size helps, you would come to know only after buying the car. That could work for people who have anyways decided to buy it. For people like me, this is a very important issue, as we plan to use it for at-least 50 - 60 kms daily. Its too much of a risk to take.

[psbali]

Originally Posted by Taruns_Hah

Many people on Team BHP have advised that reducing the tyre pressure and tyre size would help. I reduced the tyre pressure to 33 and that barely helped. Even if reducing the tyre size helps, you would come to know only after buying the car. That could work for people who have anyways decided to buy it. For people like me, this is a very important issue, as we plan to use it for atleast 50 - 60 kms daily. Its too much of a risk to take.

I guess the service interval is 15k kms. So if we were to maintain the tyre dimensions but swap it with 16 inch, it won't be much of a hassle for me to switch tyres before service once in a year or so.

But will doing this harm the car's suspension in the long run or damaging? I have two tyre shops next to my office so it would be quick work for me and no issues to store the car tyres

Will be interested in knowing if someone has downgraded their car's tyres like this.

[Epona]

Originally Posted by Taruns_Hah

My wife and I did two test drives. This car ticks all the right boxes in terms of cost and features.

However, we both felt that there was one major dealbreaker. The car is extremely unsettled in the 10 - 50 km range especially on regular mumbai roads which normally have at least some potholes or indulations. You always feel queasy in the stomach. After a 20 min test drive, I felt a bit like how I do after a mountain ride. The problem seems to be most in the front passenger seat. In fact, i had gotten the tyre pressure reduced to 33 before the 2nd test drive. Also kept the regen at low. Both these points helped a bit, but not much.

Is anyone else facing a similar issue? Its the main reason we are not going ahead with buying it.

Yes. You are spot on with your observations. I took three test drives in last two weeks. The first test drive was taken by me along from RAAM group Hyderabad couple of weeks ago and i felt the car is very unsettled over series of pot holes / speed breakers in 10 - 20 KMPH range. Took the test drive again within 30 mins (thanks to very supportive SA) in the same route and felt the same.

On Saturday took test drive (this time along with my Father and Wife occupying back seat and SA along with me front seat) again in our home town (Guntur). This time the test drive is for longer duration (4 - 5 Kms on not so good roads and 10-12 Kms on NH). While my father really appreciated the back seat comfort and space on offer, my wife said she didn't feel comfortable with ride quality on those roads with pot holes. She said though the seat itself is very comfortable, the ride isn't settled and she felt nausea for a brief moment.

Now we have second thoughts with our booking and we decided to take the test drive again in next few days before taking a call.

[naveen.maverick]

Originally Posted by Waslock

My impressions of my new Windsor EV:

Congratulations on your new car.. Thanks for your observations and comparison with XUV400. It is definitely useful.

I have also booked the car on Oct 3rd itself but still waiting for the delivery. Which dealership did you book it from as yours seems to provide a quicker delivery.

Please keep us updated on your experiences on range, tyre noise and suspension.


Note from Support: Please do not quote large posts entirely. Quote relevant sections of posts only. Thanks!

[Waslock]

Originally Posted by naveen.maverick

Congratulations on your new car

So, I bought it from JP Nagar Jubliant MG but there's a catch. My delivery was actually supposed to happen by January end. But as it turns out, there was some problem with loan disbursement with one of the deliveries scheduled much before mine. And given that I wasn't going for a loan, they told me that I could have it. So, that's how I got mine early.

And yeah, I do plan to document my experiences with this car quite extensively. Thank you for your wishes and good luck with your booking!

[drhk10]

Originally Posted by Voltzzzzz

You can download my vCard from profile which will have my mail id. And contact me.

It turns out, my house wiring is not capable of 7.4 KWh charger and I need to upgrade the wiring and that too from main meter room. As I’m living in a villa community, distance from power room is quite large. So this wiring may become prohibitively expensive. Any one here knows what exactly are the cable size requirements for 3.3 and 7.4 kWh chargers? MG guys have assigned some third party vendor for the feasibility and they are saying different numbers- like 6 sqmm for 3.3 kWh (says 2.5 sqmm is okay, but for added safety) and 10 sqmm for 7.4 kWh. Any inputs will be helpful

[Voltzzzzz]

Originally Posted by Voltzzzzz

Upto 50m is for MG ZS EV itseems. They are telling me it is 10m for Windsor. Anyone who has installed fast charger please can confirm.
Additional wiring is 700/meter and they will use 10sqmm 3 core wire.
What is the wire that I should use to setup the 16A plug considering the distance to meter is ~100m. The Exicom person told for slow charger they use 2.5sqmm for <80m and suggested me to go with 4 sqmm 3 core wire due to the distance.

Refer this. I am in a similar soup. First I was told 10sqmm 3 core wire is needed for fast charger. Later he told since I need >100m of wire, the company has asked to use 16sqmm wire. I decided not to install the fast charger.
Now my electrician has quoted 30k to do 4sqmm wiring to install 16A socket.
6sqmm wiring will cost additional 10-15k itseems. I am trying to find a reliable suggestion.

[Ashwathama]

Can someone confirm whether the crawl and creep function works with Autohold turned ON?

[santosh.s]

Originally Posted by dexter_dr

3. Clay beige is conspicuously missing in all online reviews and showrooms ( atleast ones in Chennai). Did anyone see that in flesh and any opinions on the looks would be greatly appreciated.

I have also booked clay beige color, but unable to see it in real. Based on pictures posted in this thread and what a SA shared with me, it doesn't seem to match what's shown on their website (which has a copper/brown kind of tone). I was already allocated a car, but I had to pass it due to some reasons. We don't want to finalize it without seeing it in real, but it seems to be too rare even in Bangalore, not something I would have expected. Other 3 colors are available in abundance! I was told that there are very few customers who are opting for this color, and it is quite difficult to even see it in their stock yards across the city because they are generally taken out for registration and delivery soon after reaching a yard.

A request to those from Bangalore who might have already taken delivery of this car in Beige color, in case they are reading this and don't mind letting me have a look at the color in person, please DM me.

Originally Posted by psbali

But will doing this harm the car's suspension in the long run or damaging?

Will be interested in knowing if someone has downgraded their car's tyres like this.

I have done that for Hycross, and plan to do the same for Windsor too. From what I know, downsizing wheel size and keeping overall diameter the same will actually have a positive impact on suspension wear and tear, if at all. I do have a few other doubts though specifically for an EV, which I would request others to comment on:

1. I remember reading somewhere that EVs are heavy due to battery weight and hence may need tires which can withstand it. However, considering the kerb weight of this car, it is quite similar to other ICE cars/SUVs. A SA told me that battery wieght actually compensates for engine/gearbox weight more or less. So, I hope weight should not be a concern when switching to other tires.
2. EVs generally use aerodynamic alloy wheel designs, which translates to smooth/plain face with smaller gaps between spokes and often with additional fins used for this purpose. Similarly they also come with low rolling resistance type tires. Both of these are meant to extend the range. My question is- how much range improvement do they offer? If it is in single digit percentage in total, then I may not bother that much. I am just concerned in case it reduces it drastically.
3. Wheel compatibility- I was told by MG SA that Hector wheels will be compatible with Windsor but not Astor/ZS EV. Can someone confirm this and or share technical specs of these cars (most importantly bolt pattern/number, PCD, and hub diameter)?
4. Another note based on my previous experience: tire cost seems to shoot up exponentially as we cross 17" wheel sizes. I have tried to find out but haven't still figured out whether it is well justified or whether it is just the general law of diminishing returns as we go up the chain from low end to high end stuff. I don't intend to skimp on this, but it happens to be an advantage of downsizing. It may not be so for the first time as you will have to trade off stock tires at low rate, but definitely for future replacements.