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Old 5th December 2024, 22:25   #691
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I’d upgrade to continental UC6 right away. Should reduce road noise and improve ride quality noticeably!
Have you got it changed already? If yes, has it affected the range on the Windsor by any chance?

I recently got UC6 for my 3.5 years old Nexon EV, and I see sla slight reduction in the range, but hummungous difference in ride quality, tyre noise, braking effectiveness, etc.
I have recently booked Windsor and I'm thinking on changing the tyres as soon as I get the car, but was a lil skeptical on the range decrease. So still contemplating on tyre change.
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Old 5th December 2024, 22:36   #692
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I am awaiting delivery of my windsor exclusive which may happen in couple of days. I had questions regarding lifetime warranty. Dealer was very clear about that and said lifetime warranty will not be applicable on battery degradation or SOH going below 80%. It will be applicable only for manufacturing defects or overheating or bloating or in case of rapid discharge.
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Old 6th December 2024, 05:23   #693
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Have you got it changed already? If yes, has it affected the range on the Windsor by any chance?

I recently got UC6 for my 3.5 years old Nexon EV, and I see sla slight reduction in the range, but hummungous difference in ride quality, tyre noise, braking effectiveness, etc.
I have recently booked Windsor and I'm thinking on changing the tyres as soon as I get the car, but was a lil skeptical on the range decrease. So still contemplating on tyre change.
How much impact was on the range in terms of percentage approximately?

I was also planning to replace Ceat securadrive tyres to Goodyears immediately after getting the delivery, however I was pleasantly surprised that my car already had Goodyear tyres during PDI.

Personally I have used many tyre brands on my Corolla Altis before, I found that ceat securadrives were good in terms of durability and tyre life, however they were slightly noisier and were not that good in impact absorption and ride quality, maybe due to rubber being slightly on harder side. Goodyears and Michelins were great and their tyres are comparatively on softer side, however they could not last long as Securadrives, again one must compromise on something and can not get everything.


Initially all media-drive people and reviewers got goodyear tyres on windsor cars which includes this official team-bhp review as well (almost all youtube videos have goodyear efficient grip tyres). whereas actual delivery started with ceat securadrives, this was a big letdown as people were already complaining about road noise and stiff suspension. Some people on this thread also flagged that MG not playing fair for doing this. Either MG has listened or maybe there are different tyre vendors but recently mid and high variants are now getting Goodyears for sure.

By the way, Ceat securadrives (~9k) are 4k cheaper than Goodyear Efficient grips (~13k) in retail price each, replacing this would have costed a bomb.

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Can anyone kindly help me out and summarize this review for me?
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I am awaiting delivery of my windsor exclusive which may happen in couple of days.
I am also awaiting delivery in Pune. I booked the T.Green on 4th Oct but the dealership says mine won't arrive until Jan end.

Which color did you book and on what date? Also, which dealership is this?
You mentioned your PDI is done, did you use a third party service for PDI or did you do it on your own? And lastly, what did you do with regards to insurance. Did you go with the dealership or take it from outside?
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I am also awaiting delivery in Pune. I booked the T.Green on 4th Oct but the dealership says mine won't arrive until Jan end.

Which color did you book and on what date? Also, which dealership is this?
You mentioned your PDI is done, did you use a third party service for PDI or did you do it on your own? And lastly, what did you do with regards to insurance. Did you go with the dealership or take it from outside?
Today is my delivery Demand for this car is crazy, Specially in Pune & Mumbai. Its harder to get these cars.

I had booked this car in early November, I was told waiting period is 3.5 months for T.Green (any Essence variant) and was told there is no chances of getting this variant early because of cancellations of other people etc rather waiting time can be delayed slightly due to high demand.

Mid variant was available in 1 month and Base model was readily available in stock. but it was too basic, Initially I was considering base model just because of its availability, but it's door handles does not open automatically, it needs two hands to open the door. This turned me off from going with base model.

Coming to the purchase part, It was quite a journey. I am an auto enthusiast and I mostly keep me updated with the happenings in the industry. I was not planning to purchase Windsor or, rather, any car. One weekend I checked out new Dzire with 5-star safety rating. I was impressed with the overall car but 3-cylinder experience is typical 3-cylinder. low refinement, harsh NVH, not enjoyable driving experience in city traffic, wish if they had 4 cylinder as an option and then this could have been a perfect car.

Next day I had some free time and while coming home there was one MG showroom, thought of checking out Windsor. Got a test drive, and within 10 seconds of driving it my mind had made the decision to get this car. I was simply blown away by how this thing drives. I have already driven Nexon EV and Tiago EV, but the smoothness in Windsor is next level, like when you release accelerator and regen starts etc, felt like a properly calibrated car. Booked instantly. I had pre-approved loan which dealers prefer usually.

In couple of days I realised allocation process of MG is not transparent, No car is allocated based on bookings. Its simply sales person will be choosing who will get the car. and I was not favourable here as I wanted to have my own insurance. I was quoted Rs.91700 at showroom. They were not ready to match nor allowing self insurance. Also Rs32k accessories was a mandatory part. I visited all MG showrooms in Pune (all four). Scenario was same everywhere, so I stuck with initial booking and thought of checking how far things can go. I had to persuade them a lot that, offering to buy 32k worth of accessories from them and additional dashcam worth of 13.5k (front+back). Then they asked me to write a mail to their general manager to get approval for self insurance. I did. Everyday I was following up for the response but there was no reply to the mail. I had decided not to budge on 91k insurance as this was already an impulse buy and I don’t like feeling of people taking unfair advantages of me just because of my desperation. They were simply catering to people who were willing to buy insurance from them, Somewhere I realised if this booking fails or gets stuck I need to email senior management of MG regarding the whole experience and suggest them not to become next Renault who did the same thing in duster era.

But Mahindra changed the game. BE 6e was launched on 26th November and in two days I got a phone call from MG dealer that car is allocated to you please disburse the loan. From first day I was telling them my loan is pre-approved and downpayment is in the bank, show me the car and full money will in their account in 10 mins, They again started telling me about the demand of the car, Saying there are so many people waiting and ready to pay first before car is arrived. Also they were not ready to allow PDI first before payment, and also Third party PDIs are strictly prohibited. I did not budge on prepayment part, then I got few more calls from different people from MG showroom and then finally from general manager of the showroom. I told him my concerns. I was worried if full payment is done they can initiate RTO process before informing me and I wont be able to do anything if repaired or demo car is given to me, He assured me that this will not happen so I agreed to disburse the loan and kept downpayment till I see the car.

Then car arrived in a week or so in the showroom, I made a simple PDI checklist from team-bhp PDI list. Went alone, saw the car, was happy with the one I was seeing, took some photos of VIN number, tyre numbers, other things and did rest of the payment. I found bumper alignment was little off but made sure it was not accidental, looks like factory issue. Also panel gaps are not consistent like initial batches which we saw on youtube or other reviews. My car manufacturing month is November and they might have tried to scale up production so such things to happen.

Apart from the car allocation part, I found MG guys to be very professional. Experience with dealing them is pleasant.

Lets see how the delivery goes.

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Old 7th December 2024, 07:23   #697
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Today is my delivery Demand for this car is crazy, Specially in Pune & Mumbai. Its harder to get these cars.

I had booked this car in early November, I was told waiting period is 3.5 months for T.Green (any Essence variant) and was told there is no chances of getting this variant early because of cancellations of other people etc rather waiting time can be delayed slightly due to high demand.
One should not have to jump through so many hoops for something that they're paying hard earned money for. I had made my pre booking in September and have an ETA of Jan-end as per email from MG. Now I have decided not to follow up with MG and let nature take it's course and turn into a buyer's market.

Meanwhile I'll be saving up some more for when Mahindra announces the prices & opens up bookings for BE6E upper variants.
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One should not have to jump through so many hoops for something that they're paying hard earned money for. I had made my pre booking in September and have an ETA of Jan-end as per email from MG. Now I have decided not to follow up with MG and let nature take it's course and turn into a buyer's market.

Meanwhile I'll be saving up some more for when Mahindra announces the prices & opens up bookings for BE6E upper variants.
It is definitely not buyers market for windsor yet. All people getting deliveries Jan onwards will need to shell out about 45-50k more due to 'rising input' costs.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com.../116047902.cms

One of the person got windsor manufactured in August. You can see his video on youtube if you search 'PDI WINDSOR EV', Its a black windsor and we can know its manufacturing date from its VIN number visible in the video.

So if we consider production was started from August, It has been 5 months and MG has rolled out only 6k windsors yet, Oct(3k) and Nov(3k), even though windsor production capacity is 5k a month. Lets say production is not happening at full capacity, but how come they did not scale up production even in November and producting flat 3k cars a month even after so much demand.

Looks like company is definitely trying to take advantage of the situation. People who have booked in Sept and Oct will also shell out more money in Jan onward and need to forget 1 year free charging which might be ~10-15k cost to the company.

We actually need Maruti EV & Creta EV to bring MG down to earth. BE 6e even though looks impressive, Its a first generation product and they have used piano black finish heavily which not many like. On that front, This chinese product Baujun Cloud EV has balanced prodcut and should be hopefully sorted in case of niggles.
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Today is my delivery Demand for this car is crazy, Specially in Pune & Mumbai. Its harder to get these cars.
Which showroom did you finally purchase from?
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One should not have to jump through so many hoops for something that they're paying hard earned money for. I had made my pre booking in September and have an ETA of Jan-end as per email from MG. Now I have decided not to follow up with MG and let nature take it's course and turn into a buyer's market.

Meanwhile I'll be saving up some more for when Mahindra announces the prices & opens up bookings for BE6E upper variants.
If you recollect the XUV700 launch the waiting periods were way worse than the Windsor and I expect the 6E to be the same. Also they are in different price segments so I do not see many people cancelling their Windsor bookings for the 6E.

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We actually need Maruti EV & Creta EV to bring MG down to earth. BE 6e even though looks impressive, Its a first generation product and they have used piano black finish heavily which not many like. On that front, This chinese product Baujun Cloud EV has balanced prodcut and should be hopefully sorted in case of niggles.
I do not see either the Maruti or the Creta competing with the Windsor due to the different price segments. The MG Windsor is winning purely based on its price to space ratio which is a big deal for many of us Indians.
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I do not see either the Maruti or the Creta competing with the Windsor due to the different price segments. The MG Windsor is winning purely based on its price to space ratio which is a big deal for many of us Indians.
Exactly Windsor is winning due to a new EV category of great space to price ratio in India . But this new category may not fit requirements of many.
When safari/Harrier/hector were launched I advised everyone these cars for offering great space to price ratio and criticised Hyundai/maruti offering. But when it was time to buy my own car reality struck and I brought the car which fits closest to my requirement. I brought Hyryder hybrid which has one of worst space / price ratio but offered most practicality. I drive 20000kms per year and save almost 1lakh/year in fuel costs.
I drove alone most of the time to my work place so space doesn't matter to me much.
It offers great ride quality, brilliant automatic, and works well for once/twice out of city outings with the family. I never considered Tata EVs as always considered them as experimental beta products.

This time I wanted to buy car for my wife who drives 50kms everyday. She loves cars which offers great space to price ratio. So Windsor appeared like a perfect product fitting her requirement. But a month after the booking again reality struck. With Windsor the positioning of the car itself is confusing. It offers great space to price ratio but with small battery it defeats the very purpose space can solve. With great space we can look for comfortable outstation rides with the family. Most of our outstation rides are within 300-400kms. So a range of 300-400kms seems like a sweat spot. With the kind of expressways built around Delhi NCR. We won't like food breaks before atleast 200kms of travel. So it's here that range with 38kwh will start compromising. There is little margin of safety with 250kms real world range.
We really don't know at what price Toyota/Maruti EV will launch. The launch price of all recent EVs such as Windsor/Mahindra surprised us so we may see even Toyota/maruti launching at a great price.
Atleast people now have more options in pure play EV space which offers great space/price ratio. And newer launches(Mahindra/maruti) will offer greater range too.
People will not necessarily cancel Windsor Booking but will atleast delay taking delivery to check on new launches in January-march period.
At this point exactly not offering 50kwh battery or increasing prices of 38kwh variant is going to affect sales of Windsor.
The companies have now learnt methods of artificially inflating demand/supply scenario to put pressure to potential restless buyers.
In city like delhi ncr EVs/hybrids have great demand but poor allocation of Windsor is nothing but pressure tactics by MG to artificial inflate buyer ques.

The best way forward for buyers would be stay patient. The era of poor value for money cars is over. 2025 is going to be year of cars offering great value to price ratio.
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If you recollect the XUV700 launch the waiting periods were way worse than the Windsor and I expect the 6E to be the same. Also they are in different price segments so I do not see many people cancelling their Windsor bookings for the 6E.



I do not see either the Maruti or the Creta competing with the Windsor due to the different price segments. The MG Windsor is winning purely based on its price to space ratio which is a big deal for many of us Indians.
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Which showroom did you finally purchase from?
I got it from BU Bhandari. Just got the delivery. This car is very easy to drive but it is huge. My god. I was not expecting this huge. I am daily driving Corolla Altis from last 4 years even in city and I am used to with big sized vehicles however once I brought the car in my society and in my parking then I realised how jumbo sized this is. My corolla is looking tiny in front of this.

Maybe it will need some time to get used to.
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Hi Ashwathama,

I can not reply to DMs yet as a new account. But to answer your query regarding dealer. All three branches of BU Bhandari in Pune are same. Their Inventory is same, their stockyard is same, their Bank account is same, and so is the senior management.

So you will find most of the things exact same like pricelist, waiting period etc. Only direct sales people will be different but those are also highly trained and are professional.
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It is definitely not buyers market for windsor yet.

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Simple demand and supply economics. If you want to buy windsor at this moment, then you'll have to make peace with the dealer demands. However unfair it may seem but that is the reality. For people complaining of not getting the vehicle, try accepting their demands or meet them mid way and you'll get the vehicle in one week’s time, except T green color which is genuinely not available. If you don’t need the vehicle at present then just deny all the dealer’s demands and you'll get it when the supply is in excess. Some might fear that they may have to shell out more or miss the free charging option, then that is not going to happen. Competition in this segment is going to increase in the near future. So the more you can wait, a better deal is going to come your way. Act as per your convenience and choice.

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Wanted to have my own insurance. I was quoted Rs.91700 at showroom. They were not ready to match nor allowing self insurance.
Which insurance did you get finally. Self or MG one and what was the premium you paid?

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I can not reply to DMs yet as a new account. But to answer your query regarding dealer. All three branches of BU Bhandari in Pune are same.
Thaks for the reply. Mine is the BU Bhandari Wakad showroom.
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