[navinmra]

Originally Posted by psbali

They are just raising an army of unsatisfied customers that will narrate the horror that is dealing with TM Service Centers sometimes.

I would beg to differ as a Nexon EV Max owner. Or rather offer a perspective. My car certainly came with its fair share of niggles. Not a patch compared to my pre owned Honda Civic which just ran and ran without a glitch. That said, I found TaMo service folks the most accomodative. They’ve never frowned on walk-ins without prior appointment and always had a very pleasant smile on their faces when they attended to me. But I do agree that they need to manufacture niggle free cars. That’s not asking for a lot in 2024.

[smilealways24]

Originally Posted by TusharK

The new battery pack powers a single electric motor that has an output of 110 kW and a wheel torque of 2,500 Nm. Tata claims 0-100 km/h in 8.9 seconds and a top speed of 150 km/h.

The torque is 250Nm and not 2,500Nm.

[Screwdriva]

Originally Posted by FlankerFury

It's not like MG runs an import only operation, they have a large manufacturing facility in Gujarat. I remember MG claiming localisation levels to the tune of 75% and more for the Hector and Astor so a lot of the money earned is circulated within our county.

Profits from sale from Tata and MG will find its way to China anyways since the EV powertrain and battery are sourced from that country.

Moreover, MGs parent firm is forced into a JV with Indian partners (like JSW in MG's case) thanks to GoI's policies on Chinese investments.
Even BYD is rumoured to find Indian partners to start local production.

Sorry, just to be clear, are you stating that you believe that Tata pays Chinese component suppliers more than MG ultimately makes on the sale of each vehicle in India?

[mally2]

With so many right ways to show nationalism can we please leave automobiles to be evaluated for what they are worth and how they suit our needs. Nationalism can be shown in 99 other realistic ways.

[Tanmay_868]

For anyone considering Nexon 45kwh, do note that the 7.2 kw AC Charger is being offered with just the Empowered+ variant.

All other variants just get the 3.3kw out wall box charger.
This was conveyed to me via my SA and same can be found on the new brochure.

Also according to him TATA has stopped production of 40kw variant while of 30kw remains uncertain.

Still confused to whether go ahead with Nexon 45 or not?
Please confirm the same via your SA and do update the thread.

PS:- Also do share quotations or any discount you get on the car

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by Tanmay_868

For anyone considering Nexon 45kwh, do note that the 7.2 kw AC Charger is being offered with just the Empowered+ variant.

All other variants just get the 3.3kw out wall box charger. This was conveyed to me via my SA and same can be found on the new brochure.

By the way you can get a 7.2 KW AC charger independently and in many ways can turn out to be cheaper than buying it directly from Tata. So that option is available to any one who wants to go for the lower variants. While it is not absolutely necessary to have the 7.2 KW AC charger and there is some work to be done for your electricity connection, I have found it useful and as the battery sizes increases it starts making more sense.

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by Tanmay_868

Also according to him TATA has stopped production of 40kw variant while of 30kw remains uncertain.

Still confused to whether go ahead with Nexon 45 or not?
Please confirm the same via your SA and do update the thread.

I always was of an opinion that the 40KW variant of the Nexon should be discontinued with the introduction of Curvv as the latter needs to be priced closer to the Mahindra XUV400 as this is about 4.15 meters in length and larger than Nexon and competes with Curvv rather than Nexon. But due to stiff competition, Tata had to come out with the 45KW variant and 40KW now seems outdated and out of place. So better it is discontinued. You should better go with the 45KW variant.

[Jazzybala]

When asking for the test drive of Nexon.EV 45, also called Nexon 3.0 apparently, the SA mentioned that both the outgoing LR and the incoming 45 are mechanically the same. If so should the test drive in a LR be fine to understand the vehicle's handling and other characteristics?

Originally Posted by Tanmay_868

Also according to him TATA has stopped production of 40kw variant while of 30kw remains uncertain.

Still confused to whether go ahead with Nexon 45 or not?
Please confirm the same via your SA and do update the thread.

PS:- Also do share quotations or any discount you get on the car

Our SA mentioned that both 30 and 40.5 have been discontinued and that going forward only 45 will be available.

For empowered+, the price quoted was 17.9L on road. We have not discussed the insurance coverages and add ons yet but the price being quoted for that is 57K.

[Sabyasworld]

I wonder how Tata managed to get almost same range from a 45KW battery in Nexon (489Km new MIDC cycle) compared to the 55KW Curvv (502Km new MIDC cycle). Both are basically the same car from the front and coupe design is supposed to be more aerodynamic. I guess the kerb weight of Curvv is much higher than the Nexon (could not find the actual figures).

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

When asking for the test drive of Nexon.EV 45, also called Nexon 3.0 apparently, the SA mentioned that both the outgoing LR and the incoming 45 are mechanically the same. If so should the test drive in a LR be fine to understand the vehicle's handling and other characteristics?

I think the driving characteristics and more importantly the seating ergonomics would not change much.

1. We are talking about an additional 4.5 KWH battery so the weight might not have changed too much. Plus now with prismatic cells and may be a lighter motor (say from Punch) they might end up with a lighter car.

2. In addition they could even improve on it if they want to by improving on the torsional stiffness of the chassis (a la Punch EV) and tune the suspension a bit more.

Even if they do not do (2) it probably is safe to say that the ride will be similar to current 40.5 KWH version. But who knows Tata may spring a surprise (hopefully a pleasant one).

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Our SA mentioned that both 30 and 40.5 have been discontinued and that going forward only 45 will be available.

Good that both these battery packs are been disbanded and price is almost on par with the smaller battery pack variants.

But on the other hand, Punch battery packs need to be upgraded. Hope they get bigger battery packs without any raise in prices. Sailesh Chandra mentioned that as battery prices fall, the prices of the car will not be changed but bigger battery and new features will be added. If that is done, EV line-up will get a boost.

Originally Posted by electric_eel

I think the driving characteristics and more importantly the seating ergonomics would not change much.

1. We are talking about an additional 4.5 KWH battery so the weight might not have changed too much. Plus now with prismatic cells and may be a lighter motor (say from Punch) they might end up with a lighter car.

2. In addition they could even improve on it if they want to by improving on the torsional stiffness of the chassis (a la Punch EV) and tune the suspension a bit more.

Even if they do not do (2) it probably is safe to say that the ride will be similar to current 40.5 KWH version. But who knows Tata may spring a surprise (hopefully a pleasant one).

The major changes as you suggested should happen with the upgrade to the platform. The problems will be solved with the car when they shift to the Acti.ev platform from the current X1 platform. That is still some time away.

Nexon EV MAX was the worst hit with suspension and battery issues caused with the heavier battery pack and were solved with the Nexon LR upgrade. Most complaints heard were with EV MAX cars.

[Jazzybala]

Originally Posted by DRPSREDDY

The major changes as you suggested should happen with the upgrade to the platform. The problems will be solved with the car when they shift to the Acti.ev platform from the current X1 platform. That is still some time away.

The SA was mentioning that the Nexon 3.0 is on the Acti.ev platform with the same top hat, not the original X1 platform, hence the break in production run of new cars. The logic does appear to be sound but maybe some chaiwallah/panwala information can be sourced to corroborate the same.

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

The SA was mentioning that the Nexon 3.0 is on the Acti.ev platform with the same top hat, not the original X1 platform, hence the break in production run of new cars. The logic does appear to be sound but maybe some chaiwallah/panwala information can be sourced to corroborate the same.

It is a great news if it is really on the Acti.ev platform!

But TATA will not be stupid not to publicize it to the hilt. Why would the company not use the opportunity? Also the media would have been buzzing the story. The SA might be trying to cook up his own stories.

Anyways the car has been caught testing under wraps. Let's wait for the story to unfold.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by electric_eel

1. We are talking about an additional 4.5 KWH battery so the weight might not have changed too much. Plus now with prismatic cells and may be a lighter motor (say from Punch) they might end up with a lighter car.

Originally Posted by DRPSREDDY

Nexon EV MAX was the worst hit with suspension and battery issues caused with the heavier battery pack and were solved with the Nexon LR upgrade. Most complaints heard were with EV MAX cars.

As electric_eel mentioned more KWH were achieved by better battery packaging (prismatic cells) and improved battery density (more WH per kg of battery). According to me the weight of the battery should remains more or so the same.

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

The SA was mentioning that the Nexon 3.0 is on the Acti.ev platform with the same top hat, not the original X1 platform, hence the break in production run of new cars.

It will not be acti.ev platform as the chassis used by Nexon is older X1 platform. They are not going to change it for the EV only.

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by DRPSREDDY

It is a great news if it is really on the Acti.ev platform!

But TATA will not be stupid not to publicize it to the hilt. Why would the company not use the opportunity? Also the media would have been buzzing the story. The SA might be trying to cook up his own stories.

Anyways the car has been caught testing under wraps. Let's wait for the story to unfold.

Realised this from a Motor Inc Episode that when Tata say a new platform (or rather architecture) for an EV they mean the chassis + battery pack + BMS combo. For example if they move from X1 Chassis + Ziptron drive train to X1 + whatever is the name of Punch drive train, it would mean a new architecture. The underlying Physical hardware, i.e. chassis and suspension might not change but it can still be called a new architecture. So one has to really read the specs carefully.