[Tanmay_868]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Congratulations on your new ride, Tanmay.
Does the Iffco insurance have 100% battery cover??

Sorry i do not know this. Will ask from my agent and then confirm.
You are asking about water damage cover right?

Originally Posted by aweracker

What does the infotainment say about the range at 100%?

It was charged to 41% and range showed 182 km in City mode.

PS:- I forgot to take pictures of the car during PDI.

[aweracker]

Originally Posted by Tanmay_868

Sorry i do not know this. Will ask from my agent and then confirm.
You are asking about water damage cover right?


It was charged to 41% and range showed 182 km in City mode.

PS:- I forgot to take pictures of the car during PDI.

I would love to know what it says at 100-90%. I am considering an EV around 18-20L range. Feel free to share them whenever you can.

Windsor is amazing but the real-world range is around 250km which I feel is slightly less than what I would like.

[Tanmay_868]

Originally Posted by aweracker

I would love to know what it says at 100-90%. I am considering an EV around 18-20L range. Feel free to share them whenever you can.

Windsor is amazing but the real-world range is around 250km which I feel is slightly less than what I would like.

Oh surely, will take delivery of the car on Tuesday and then will update the thread accordingly.
I too had same problem with the Windsor.

Just didn’t want to deal with Tata Service Centre but can’t help it now.

[Jazzybala]

Originally Posted by Tanmay_868

Sorry i do not know this. Will ask from my agent and then confirm.
You are asking about water damage cover right?

Yes, Tanmay. Would appreciate the clarification on this when possible.

[Jazzybala]

Originally Posted by aweracker

I would love to know what it says at 100-90%. I am considering an EV around 18-20L range. Feel free to share them whenever you can.

Hi Awecracker,
The demo car, which was the Dark red edition, showed me a range of 313km in city mode, L1 regen, when the avg AEC was 236Wh/km, at 100% battery charge.

[aweracker]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Hi Awecracker,
The demo car, which was the Dark red edition, showed me a range of 313km in city mode, L1 regen, when the avg AEC was 236Wh/km, at 100% battery charge.

Wow. 236 W/h means that people treated this like a joy car. In real life, you generally average between 140 and 170 W/h, which is sensible driving.

This means around 300 is a realistic range, and if you drive carefully then 320-330 at max.

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Hi Awecracker,
The demo car, which was the Dark red edition, showed me a range of 313km in city mode, L1 regen, when the avg AEC was 236Wh/km, at 100% battery charge.

Also, it's aweRacker

[Shreyans_Jain]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Hi Awecracker,
The demo car, which was the Dark red edition, showed me a range of 313km in city mode, L1 regen, when the avg AEC was 236Wh/km, at 100% battery charge.

236wh/km is too high. It translates to a range of 190km on a full charge of 45kwh being fully used. Real world energy consumption of the car averages between 125 and 160wh/km, depending on road and traffic conditions, driving style as well as ambient weather.

[Tanmay_868]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

Yes, Tanmay. Would appreciate the clarification on this when possible.

My policy does not have specific cover for battery.
It has RTI, Zero depreciation, Consumables, RSA and ‘new vehicle replacement cover’.

[Jazzybala]

Originally Posted by aweracker

Wow. 236 W/h means that people treated this like a joy car. In real life, you generally average between 140 and 170 W/h, which is sensible driving.

This means around 300 is a realistic range, and if you drive carefully then 320-330 at max.

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

236wh/km is too high. It translates to a range of 190km on a full charge of 45kwh being fully used. Real world energy consumption of the car averages between 125 and 160wh/km, depending on road and traffic conditions, driving style as well as ambient weather.

This was a brand new car with an odo reading of just 10km, so i am guessing the high AEC is from the drive from the dealer yard to their showroom, which is about 5-6kms and in sports mode.

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

This was a brand new car with an odo reading of just 10km, so i am guessing the high AEC is from the drive from the dealer yard to their showroom, which is about 5-6kms and in sports mode.

And there might be many ramps on the way which will make it worse. I get a royal 230 Wh/km for the first 1 Km from home. This stretch is a relatively steep climb however it is not very easy to notice this if you are on foot or cycle. Together with the initial energy spent on cooling and relatively small speeds means the efficiency is quite bad. But then as it runs on the highway and some mixed traffic I get around 120-130 Wh/km for the office stretch (again overall it is a climb). The return gets about 100-105 Wh/km and if careful I can even get sub 100 Wh/km. (Nexon EV Max).

So

1. The efficiency on longer trips is significantly better than short trips.

2. To make sense of efficiency one needs to look at round trip figures and not one way. For example Palakkad-Coimbatore. My only long distance/round trip sub 100 was one such trip where the onward journey was 130 and the return was 66.

[aweracker]

So DDS did a video and the range came out to be 370 on 0% charge.

It gave a range of 340 100-10% which is amazing. I can do planned road trips with ease now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16wg...ab_channel=DDS

[psbali]

Not trying to spread fear here but there is already a battery critical alert in a brand new 45 Kw variant. A user in a telegram group reported the same. A model launched in 2019 is still having same issue even after changing battery pack vendor. I guess octillion is the vendor for this? I could be wrong but seriously what's up at Tata Motors?

[Jazzybala]

1820km in one week or so of delivery? Just wondering what the charging pattern has been with the user as it has a direct correlation to battery performance.

[psbali]

Originally Posted by Jazzybala

1820km in one week or so of delivery? Just wondering what the charging pattern has been with the user as it has a direct correlation to battery performance.

Does back to back fast charging cause such errors with other manufacturers is what we need to find out. Also where did the buyer mention a week since he got delivery? Are you too in the same group?

[Jazzybala]

Originally Posted by psbali

Does back to back fast charging cause such errors with other manufacturers is what we need to find out. Also where did the buyer mention a week since he got delivery? Are you too in the same group?

Tata's recommendation is that one cyclevof slower AC charging br performed after every 4 DC Fast charging sessions, thats all i am going by.

The delivery time is a deduction, based on the facts, as shared to me, below:

1. The model was launched late September.
2. When i went to test drive and book a Punch, I was told by the SA that all manufacturing has been shifted to 45Kwh version starting late September and that the first lot of delivery would be end of Oct.
3. My colleague had booked an Empowered+ 45KwH in oxide colour the day after launch. The vehicle had reached the yard early last week which apparently was the first lot of 45KwH leaving tata plant.
4. Most YouTube videos actually featuring the 45Kwh battery equipped vehicles came online about 10 days ago, mostly in Dark Red Variant.

Based on these inputs, I am deducing that the delivery was at most a week ago, about 10 days ago if its the dark red trim.