[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by PMSreenivas

This is fine but my issue is multiple device login.
When I login different device it also for sognout from other device and it logs off from the first one.
I wanted to stream in multiple devices.

I have a BE6. Not sure how it's behaving in XEV 9E

Add a family member in Me4U app and then use that credentials.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Found out this transparent view in XEV as well. Used it to climb ramp for car washing like a pro!

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Adding a Youtube Short of Transparent 360 camera mode available in Mahindra BEV. Do note the accuracy of tyres movement linked to the steering in the 1st 5 seconds and the pothole around 15 seconds. The digital view of tyres is perfectly in sync with the physical world!

Adding a Youtube Short of Transparent 360 camera mode available in Mahindra BEV

[ryanMathew]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Do note the accuracy of tyres movement linked to the steering in the 1st 5 seconds and the pothole around 15 seconds. The digital view of tyres is perfectly in sync with the physical world!

Does the XEV have cameras on the underbody like the JLR models and the Harrier, or is it not a real-time feed? This is available on the BE6 too?

[SLK]

Originally Posted by ryanMathew

and the Harrier, or is it not a real-time feed? This is available on the BE6 too?

Who said Harrier has underbody camera?
BE6 and XEV have same feature.

[evhead]

Originally Posted by ryanMathew

Does the XEV have cameras on the underbody like the JLR models and the Harrier, or is it not a real-time feed? This is available on the BE6 too?

Underbody camera would be an engineering feet to achieve. It would be often blinded by mud, oil etc, hit by small stones etc. Instead its easier to simulate the underbody by the images captured by other cameras, on the move.

[ryanMathew]

Originally Posted by SLK

Who said Harrier has underbody camera?
BE6 and XEV have same feature.

The Harrier.ev does.

Originally Posted by evhead

Underbody camera would be an engineering feet to achieve. It would be often blinded by mud, oil etc, hit by small stones etc. Instead its easier to simulate the underbody by the images captured by other cameras, on the move.

So it isn't real-time, it's just generated... To be honest, that seems more of an achievement to me than just using a camera.

The Mahindra BEVs are truly a bang for the buck! I'm just surprised they haven't properly advertised this feature!! Or maybe they have, but I just haven't noticed?

[Sentau]

Originally Posted by ryanMathew

The Harrier.ev does.

No it doesn't from as far as I have read. It is also using the other images from the 360 degree camera to stitch and generate the underbody view. Every car I have seen uses this algorithmic method to generate the underbody view.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by ryanMathew

The Harrier.ev does.

Harrier does not have underbody cameras. The feed is based on image stitching and as per the recent reviews, the implementation is much poor than the Mahindra BEVs.
Please see the camera view of Harrier.EV below


Also note the level of distortion that a slight ramp is shown as a ladder.

Source:
Link 1
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5Gstguh...gHD4igqfqvCJw0

Link 2:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxBmaF_1...H13xeVCmp0ytGg

[ryanMathew]

Originally Posted by Sentau

No it doesn't as far as I have read. It is also using the other images from the 360 degree camera to stitch and generate the underbody view. Every car I have seen uses this algorithmic method to generate the underbody view.

While it is true that the car does stitch multiple images from different cameras for its Transparent view, the Harrier.ev actually has a camera on the underbody.

In fact, it uses the data received from the side cameras + the dedicated underbody camera to stitch together an accurate image of the terrain underneath

[evhead]

Originally Posted by ryanMathew

The Harrier.ev does.



So it isn't real-time, it's just generated... To be honest, that seems more of an achievement to me than just using a camera.

The Mahindra BEVs are truly a bang for the buck! I'm just surprised they haven't properly advertised this feature!! Or maybe they have, but I just haven't noticed?

If you notice the water patches that you can see underbody, it is generated by passing the image captured by the front camera and simulating it to go under the body according to the vehicle speed. You can do a small experiment. Stick a small tape in front of the camera with a loose end. (not on the camera). See how the tape plays with the simulation

I did hear some execs talking about underbody camera during launch etc. They are simply ill-informed.

BTW, out of topic, BMW came up with an automatic pressure wash for their rear camera which became a troll material

[ryanMathew]

Originally Posted by purohitanuj

Harrier does not have underbody cameras. The feed is based on image stitching and as per the recent reviews, the implementation is much poor than the Mahindra BEVs.
Please see the camera view of Harrier.EV below
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Also note the level of distortion that a slight ramp is shown as a ladder.
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Source:
Link 1
https://Youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5Gstguh...gHD4igqfqvCJw0

Link 2:
https://Youtube.com/clip/UgkxxBmaF_1...H13xeVCmp0ytGg

Originally Posted by evhead

If you notice the water patches that you can see underbody, it is generated by passing the image captured by the front camera and simulating it to go under the body according to the vehicle speed. You can do a small experiment. Stick a small tape in front of the camera with a loose end. (not on the camera). See how the tape plays with the simulation

I did hear some execs talking about underbody camera during launch etc. They are simply ill-informed.

Now I am confused. I was pretty sure it had a camera underneath it, I guess not...
Sorry for all the confusion

On another note, generating the image from information taken from other cameras is a much bigger achievement than simply sticking a camera underneath the car... I am impressed!

[GautamJ]

Minor Mishap

While it is true that no two accidents are identical, there have been rumours circulating regarding M.E.A.L. products being stranded on the road after being rear-ended.

A brief about the accident:

Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) was activated, and we selected the ‘normal’ setting (the other two options are Early and Late), as we were engaged in a road trip and navigating connecting highways. In the XEV 9E and BE 6, Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) functionality requires the activation of AEB.

While navigating through the congested traffic of Gurugram, reminiscent of Mumbai’s notorious traffic, we found ourselves returning to Mumbai with minimal stops, except for necessary charging breaks. As the vehicle ahead abruptly stopped and resumed driving, we had ample space and intended to decelerate rather than maintain a stationary position. However, the ADAS detected a potential collision and initiated a firm braking action.

The car behind us, a Maruti DZire, was switching lanes and probably realised it too late to react. As a result, the DZire rear-ended our XEV 9E and sustained the following damages:
1. Right-side fender damage
2. Bonnet damage
3. Driver-side headlight cracked
The car itself was in a pathetic shape, and it seems like the driver didn’t care much about the rear end.

Visually, the damage to our car includes an inward-bent bumper, skid plate/diffuser, and paint transfer from the Dzire.

The mishap footage:

Following the incident, the instrument cluster displayed no malfunction indicators. Nevertheless, the vehicle recorded a three-minute video and stored it in the ‘Emergency’ folder. This video can be accessed through two methods:
1. The Centre Infotainment Screen, the video can be downloaded onto a USB drive from the slot provided in the glovebox.
2. Launch the Me4U application on your smartphone => Within the application, navigate to the “Secure 360” section => Select the “Recordings” tab => Choose the “Emergency” option => Select the video you wish to download and save on your smartphone or share it directly.

The video clip stored by the car, cropped from a 3 minute to a 41 second

https://youtu.be/th6F3JoRNfg?feature=shared

The Car performance:

The vehicle was struck on its left side, just below the charging port. Initially, we intended to verify whether the vehicle was charging. Fortunately, a charging station was conveniently located nearby. As the vehicle was fully operational, we proceeded to the charging station and completed a full 100% charge. We reported no adverse effects.

Following the completion of the charging process, we observed malfunction lights. Upon consulting the owner’s manual, we concluded that the car’s ADAS system was malfunctioning. To prevent any potential false alarms, the car had deactivated the ADAS system. Additionally, the car displayed a message indicating that the ‘rear left radar requires service’.

Despite the ADAS functionalities, the vehicle’s performance was optimal. We embarked on a sedate ~1,500 km journey, achieving an impressive range of 517 km. Contrary to rumours, the car was fully operational and successfully completed the ~1,500 km journey.

The malfunction lights on the instrument cluster illuminated. Interestingly, lane centring worked flawlessly even after the mishap.

The ASC Experience: NBS International Goregoan (Mumbai)

Restoring our faith in the functionality of our car, we contacted the Service Centre in Mumbai the following day of the incident. A brief conversation with the EV-specific Service Advisor resulted in an appointment, and I was instructed to have the car towed to the ASC. Although I was initially puzzled as to why the car should be towed when it is fully operational, I accepted their terms without further argument.

The vehicle was towed to ASC and promptly transported to the bay, the discussions on the internet regarding the prioritisation of BEV owners by the M&M ASC appear to be accurate. The bodyshop manager conducted an inventory and acknowledged that this was their first case of this nature. They were unaware of the cost of replacement, except for the bumper, which costs ~₹18,000. Initially, we were hesitant to claim insurance, as having an undamaged bumper in Mumbai is a luxury we cannot afford. However, we believed that the bumper could be reshaped, a rubbing compound could address the paint transfer, and a radar reset might resolve the ADAS malfunctions. The bodyshop manager then advised that if the radar requires replacement, it is best to claim insurance, as the XUV 7OO radar costs approximately ₹22,000.

A call to family, who expressed a strong preference for the car to be in optimal condition, rendered it an unequivocal decision to proceed with the insurance claim. The insurance claim was duly registered, and the subsequent survey was conducted the following day. The surveyor requested a vehicle scan report for the rear left radar malfunction message. The entire claim process was meticulously managed by the ASC.

Upon receiving approval from the insurance company, the ASC ordered the necessary parts, including the bumper, left side reverse lamp, rear skid plate/diffuser, the brush silver part, and the rear left radar. The parts, except for the skid plate, were in stock within two to three days of ordering. However, the skid plate took longer to arrive, which delayed the bumper fitment and, consequently, the delivery of the car. The skid plate was finally in stock after more than three to four days. Once all the necessary parts were received, the ASC took the car for a test drive. The ADAS was functioning, but it displayed a message indicating that the rear left radar required service. The ASC was perplexed and attempted various troubleshooting methods. The final option was to connect to M&M. We were informed by the Me4U that testing was being conducted on our car till 9 pm! After receiving the instructions from M&M regarding the resetting of the radar, the malfunction message disappeared. According to M&M guidelines, the radar(s) must be reset after every module replacement and/or rear bumper removal.

In the interim, the car software underwent an update. The long-awaited Apple CarPlay has finally been integrated, and this is likely the third time the suspensions have been adjusted. Following each update, the car’s ride quality has improved significantly. The car was delivered ~15 days. Upon inspection, the vehicle was found to be in poor condition, with dirty interiors, scuffed-up gloss black cladding, and a scratch on a part near the rear bumper. The paint quality of the rear bumper was particularly unsatisfactory, and I found it difficult to look at it. However, the damaged part was repainted, and the paint quality was significantly improved. Additionally, these issues were resolved after involving M&M and CRM.

A closer examination of inside of the bumper reveals the bumper locks are plastic but of supreme quality, ensuring durability and strength. The chunky bar at the centre bottom is also made of metal, providing additional support and safety.


The other side of the under-the-skin aspect is that the HV cables are well-insulated and secured, so minor touches will not affect the wires, HV battery, or even the motor.


The damaged bumper, with the presence of radar sensors mounted on the rear bumper (with help of plastic brackets), a possible kick sensor, six parking sensors, and a wire harness for reverse lights.


The rear left radar bracket has been dislodged due to the impact. I apologise for the poor quality of the image; a zoom at the edge of the reverse light can reveal the damage.


The final invoice for the mishap.

[evhead]

Originally Posted by GautamJ

Minor Mishap

While it is true that no two accidents are identical, there have been rumours circulating regarding M.E.A.L. products being stranded on the road after being rear-ended.

Thanks for sharing and sorry to see the damage. My first experience with AEB was with Tata Curvv EV Test ride. The brake was so hard that the car suddenly didn't move an inch. I was literally panicking not knowing what happened. After that, the first think I do when I enter new age cars is, switch off AEB.

In your case, you were in a way lucky that you were hit by a car. Imagine a truck was behind you the damage would be far more.

Regarding ACC, if you want range you may want to switch that off as well. For me these AEB / ACC etc are merely party tricks. Have been driving for 25 odd years and never felt a need for one. At least, in the near future they are not good enough to replace a human. When dealing with emergency there are a lot of conditions that you do as a human. Steer to avoid, late breaking, choosing to hit a plastic divider vs steel / concrete. There are so many thing that you can process as a human than algorithm. So, better switch these off permanently, and may be use it very occasionally.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by GautamJ

Minor Mishap

While it is true that no two accidents are identical, there have been rumours circulating regarding M.E.A.L. products being stranded on the road after being rear-ended.

Good to know that everyone is safe and you still had a smooth trip. Looking at the invoice, I noticed that the rear radar is less than INR8500! This is really cheap for a radar component.
I am sure a similar incident in a BMW or Merc, with similar hardware would have costed in lakhs for a replacement!

Great job by Mahindra by bringing these features to mass market and keep the prices of spares also in check!

By any chance, do you have pics of the Desire?

[beemer5499]

Originally Posted by evhead

Underbody camera would be an engineering feet to achieve. It would be often blinded by mud, oil etc, hit by small stones etc. Instead its easier to simulate the underbody by the images captured by other cameras, on the move.

That engineering feat has already been achieved. Hummer EV has underbody camera with protective lenses and a wash system. Some Rivian’s and GMC’s also have underbody camera.