[VRJ]

Originally Posted by beemer5499

My dealership has mentioned 2,15,517 for the insurance which is 1 year OD + 3 year TP + Zero Dep

While I feel earning a bit of money on insurance is fine for the dealership, but inflating is 3-4x is just crazy. As per policybazaar, insurance should be around 53-70k for the car.

Heck, I doubt even a brand new X5’s insurance doesn’t cost 2L.

Originally Posted by DevilinDiguise

Quote for the insurance of Pack 3 from my dealer in Mumbai-

Insurance -1,48,069
Zero Dep (Optional) - 28,025
Essential Addons - 17,516
- Battery protection
- Motor protection
- Charger protection


Total - 1,93,610

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Mahindra insurance quotes have been on higher side. Close to ₹2 lakh insurance for ₹30 lakh ex-showroom car is just insane. I am told by SA that deliveries are being prioritized for high value customers for XEV 9E. These customers might be willing to pay higher insurance price or get some discount for quicker deliveries.

Those are some ridiculous insurance quotes for a car costing ₹30.5L ex-showroom. I paid ₹1,75,000 for my Mercedes V214 E220d couple of months back (₹1.03 cr on-road). It’s three times the price of a XEV9. Are EV’s insurance premiums generally high? Or are Mahindra dealers markups are crazy high? Toyota dealers do the same thing with Hycross and Fortuner. I paid ₹1,50,000 for my Innova Hycross in 2023. This price was higher by at least 50% compared to the market price. The dealer simply refused to sell me a car without taking their insurance and accessories worth ₹60,000. This was at the time when Toyota stopped bookings and waiting period was in excess of a year. I needed the car, so I paid. But, I don’t think that’s the case with the XEV9. There’s no 1 year waiting like how the Thar had initially. Try your best to negotiate. A rupee saved is a rupee earned. Cheers!

[DevilinDiguise]

Originally Posted by Karthik Mathur

I made a comment on the high insurance cost, and he said it's because the battery is so expensive.

Doesn't make sense as the base cost doesn't even cover the battery. The battery puttin is an essential add on. Refer my post.

Originally Posted by Karthik Mathur

I tried to do Auto Park but he said that it only works when grid lines are there on the ground, like in a parking lot. I tried anyway, it seemed to be searching but didn't find any slot to park. Didn't really try it beyond a few seconds.

Not true. While they have option of auto detect, it also allows you to place where you want to park manually as well. It has three options - horizontal, vertical and cross. You have to drag that and place in the spot you want the car to park. I've tried it in my building when it came for the test drive and it works like a charm.

Originally Posted by Jekyl87

Tata power mandates that the EV vehicle bill is attached with the application. So my application submission is pending. So only post the car is billed and delivered, can I submit the connection application. Post the new connection installation the survey and charger installation process can begin. Any one who can suggest a solution to this delay?

They should ideally allow even with the Booking confirmation receipt as well. It's a requirement with MSEDCL as well, but they accept this in lieu.

[novice]

I checked with two dealers in BLR about the insurance. Anant Cars sales teams said Insurance is mandatory but PPS seemed flexible and are willing to work with the customer.

I plan to cancel my online booking linked to Anant cars and make a fresh booking with PPS instead. I don't like the attitude of Anant car sales folks.

[novice]

Originally Posted by samhtm

The Instrument cluster shows only 296km range for 90% battery remaining? That translates to total of only 330km range. Also, 11km/Kwh doesn't make sense, xev 9e has a 78kwh battery, which means a total of 850km range for that efficiency.

I did a TD yesterday. The car had 94% charge. It showed about 260km for Race mode and 295 for Range mode. I wonder how this translates to > 500km range.

[shashankw839]

Originally Posted by shashankw839

Hello All,

Just want to highlight a communication I have had with Mahindra post my 9e booking. Basically I own multiple EVs and have chargers installed already and emailed them to check if I could get the car without the charger. Reply I got back is very concerning ..

Here is the reply:

"Thank you for taking time and writing to us.

Regret to inform you that currently we do not offer the option to purchase the car without charger. Charger is being sold as a package with Vehicle as a part of Ex-Showroom. This is considering the requirement to provide Lifetime battery warranty of our vehicles. While we offer option to install it at any preferred location as per your convenience.

We would like to highlight the importance of using a Mahindra Genuine Electric Vehicle Charger.

Why Choose Mahindra Genuine Electric Vehicle Charger?

Optimal Performance: Our chargers are specifically designed to work seamlessly with Mahindra electric vehicles, ensuring optimal charging performance and efficiency.
Safety First: Safety is our top priority. Mahindra Genuine Chargers are rigorously tested to meet the highest safety standards, providing you with peace of mind every time you charge your vehicle.
Longevity: Using a genuine charger helps maintain the health of your vehicle's battery, extending its lifespan and ensuring consistent performance over time.
Warranty Protection: Mahindra Electric our comprehensive warranty, protecting you from potential repair costs and ensuring your investment is safeguarded.
Eco-Friendly: Our chargers are designed to be energy-efficient, reducing your carbon footprint and contributing to a greener planet."

I have deep concerns over this. Some key observations:

• The price mentioned on the website, media and everywhere as ex-showroom price is 30.50 lacs and charger is an extra option so I am not sure how it is part of ex-showroom price and how TCS can be applied on the extra option. Anyway, that is not the biggest concern.
• The charger Mahindra is providing is not built by Mahindra. It is a charger supplied by a third party re-branded by Mahindra. So how does it classify as a “requirement” for battery health of the car.
• The biggest concern is the statement which links the charger to the Lifetime battery warranty and calling the charger as an “requirement” for Lifetime warranty.
• The car is a mobility utility and how is it possible that the car will only be charged from a stationary AC charger (installed at home or office) mandatorily provided by Mahindra during its entire lifetime?
• Does that mean that if we travel to another city/location and use any AC charger for charging, we lose our “life time warranty”?
• If that is the case, then what are the limitations of using DC chargers as well? Do they void warranty even if DC chargers from third party CPOs are used?

The lifetime warranty was a major factor for many people to opt for the Mahindra XEV/BE products but if there are such caveats attached, then I feel they are not being told the facts.

Hello All,

I posted this communication which I had with Mahindra a few days before. I have been in touch with them on email and they have updated me ( not on email ) that there is no option to buy the car with without a charger. Also, it seems dealer insurance is also a forced buy with the car and we are already seeing what kind of quotes the dealers are giving to customers. I feel these are not right business practices and selling ethics from Mahindra. The overall cost difference is huge for customers where in Insurance is almost 1 to 1.25 lacs higher than the market and 50 to 75k charger has been forced on to them. So overall, the loot amount is almost 1.5L to 2L . This is something consumers should act on . I may mostly cancel my booking due to unethical selling practices from Mahindra.

I hope everyone is aware of these terms. I have asked them for the battery warranty terms in writing and I have not been provided one.

So just "Be careful, before you Buy"

[newenergy]

I recently received the accessory list from the dealer. Prices are yet to be shared. I am sure these will have inflated pricing.

I hate the chrome addons. I do not understand why few add these to their cars which destroys the looks and feels very cheap.

[shashankw839]

Originally Posted by newenergy

I recently received the accessory list from the dealer. Prices are yet to be shared. I am sure these will have inflated pricing.

I hate the chrome addons. I do not understand why few add these to their cars which destroys the looks and feels very cheap.

Their only focus right now is just selling. There is a lot basic stuff that needs to be answered, though. Here are a few things that remained unanswered.

1. Where are the range tests from the press and the reviewers? Why are they not allowed to do range tests?
2. Where are the DC/AC charging tests as well? Even those are not allowed to be done.
3. No efficiency tests are allowed to be done.
4. What are the battery warranty terms and conditions?
5. What are the terms and conditions for the "Lifetime Warranty"? What are the degradation values when battery replacement will be honoured?

I believe everyone who has made a booking should ask their respective dealers the above questions. The product has been hyped, and it looks good for sure. However, substantial proofs need to be available to support their claims.

[newenergy]

Originally Posted by shashankw839

Their only focus right now is just selling. There is a lot basic stuff that needs to be answered, though. Here are a few things that remained unanswered.

1. Where are the range tests from the press and the reviewers? Why are they not allowed to do range tests?
2. Where are the DC/AC charging tests as well? Even those are not allowed to be done.
3. No efficiency tests are allowed to be done.
4. What are the battery warranty terms and conditions?
5. What are the terms and conditions for the "Lifetime Warranty"? What are the degradation values when battery replacement will be honoured?

I believe everyone who has made a booking should ask their respective dealers the above questions. The product has been hyped, and it looks good for sure. However, substantial proofs need to be available to support their claims.

Dealers are clueless on these technical details. It is better to write directly to Mahindra support. When the actual deliveries begin this month, we might get few answers.

[Devdivin]

Originally Posted by newenergy

I recently received the accessory list from the dealer. Prices are yet to be shared. I am sure these will have inflated pricing.

Any chance you could get the accessories list for the Be6 as well?

[shashankw839]

Originally Posted by newenergy

Dealers are clueless on these technical details. It is better to write directly to Mahindra support. When the actual deliveries begin this month, we might get few answers.

Mahindra support are the ones who have denied actual range tests to be done on the cars.. So no help from Mahindra Support. Dealers may know but they don't to answer. Without knowing these details, if someone takes delivery then its a big gamble ..

[mally2]

No media or independent range test on these cars seem very suspicious to me.

[novice]

I took TD of 9e twice. I felt the steering is light and the suspension squishy in Range and Everyday mode. This somewhat dulls the driving experience. Both harden up nicely in Race mode but I don’t want to be driving in that mood all the time. I wish Mahindra has given a Custom or Individual mode like in Kodiaq’s DCC.

Originally Posted by mally2

No media or independent range test on these cars seem very suspicious to me.

Based on multiple test drives I did with 6e and 9e, my estimate would be between 350 to 375 kms depending on the driving style.

[gaurav371]

Originally Posted by novice

Based on multiple test drives I did with 6e and 9e, my estimate would be between 350 to 375 kms depending on the driving style.

Same here - even for a single owner driven car I don't think it will exceed 400-450 km max. I am now thinking of cancelling my book preferring to wait and watch or go for ix1 lwb by stretching my budget.

[Karthik Mathur]

Originally Posted by novice

Based on multiple test drives I did with 6e and 9e, my estimate would be between 350 to 375 kms depending on the driving style.

That's an average of 4.7 km/kwh...that's similar to a Merc EQE SUV. That's a ridiculously low number, and a little unbelievable tbh.

[mgoel]

if 79kW is going to give a range of 350km, what will be range in 59kW? 220km? is not that something Windsor EV with 35kW battery gives? And what about all the claim of Mahindra of their testing range is > 500km for 79kW? I just saw the numbers for various cities and it varies from 495km to 550km