[evhead]

One additional callout I would like to make is, while NMC is less bulky and performance oriented, what I understand is NMC has to be kept at max 80% SOC for battery longevity and sometimes even to avoid cell depreciation and warranty matters. That effectively makes the 20% useless for uses unless the user is not worried about battery life and cell depreciation over time due to constant full charge. It's a catch 22

I love the Ioniq 5. The only reason I didn't buy it is because its is NMC. I do understand that all batteries eventually burn in extreme conditions. But it is the reaction time that matters. Your BMS won't help in situation like physical damage during high speed accidents. Then it all boils down to pure chemistry alone. NMC will burn like a Diwali flower pot if not even better.

So until the manufacturers can prove extreme tests like nail penetration, impact and temperature tolerance etc, we should not go for those chemistries. Currently, LFP is checking most of these boxes.

An important side note is, our geography is not so big as America so as to bother so much about range. 500Km range is all that we need!!

[ProfDK]

Aah.. it's not.

NMC/NCA are performance oriented and not range oriented. Tesla research shows that charging to 100% really makes an insignificant difference to the battery life.. the 80% mark is where charging gets inefficient.

Note : catch 22 means conflict, this is straight line.

[Sanwal Chandra]

Originally Posted by Arteberus

Apologies it took me some time to- here is a pic

Attachment 2749710

Good to see you were able to remove it. I am still unable to, and cant figure out how. Looks like it will have to be the first service of the car when i get it removed.

[Arteberus]

Not having tires with foam is giving me FOMO (I have MRF Markus on my car and not the goodyears) so I reached out to Mahindra and they were willing to change my tires to Goodyear but the service advisor suggested to stick with mrf because the goodyears supplied are of soft compound and they’re getting many puncture and sidewall cutting issues - thoughts? What are your views on that? Do you think I should change to the goodyears or is he likely being honest?

[abacusv]

Hi Guys,

This thread has been my top read since I booked the car back in Jan. I havent got the allotment yet and the wait is both killing and also helping. More the wait more I am speculating.

My question to all who own. How is the suspension? Every time I took a test drive, I was disappointed with the suspension. Yesterday I took another test drive, this time I wanted my wife to experience. I was at the front passenger and trust me I could not operate the passenger cluster. The ride was super bumpy and wobly. I had my brother in law sit in the back and he was thrown left and right on a bad road.
I thought these fleets have tons of patents filed on suspension. The adaptive suspension was not enabled in any of the test drive vehicles I had due to beta version cars or what not.

Ride experience yesterday really put me off and I feel I will have disappointment carry over. Any one here feel the same? Is the test drive vehicles that is the problem not the actual delivered cars? Please update.

[mally2]

Range stuff.

I was doing a Bangalore mangalore drive in my Nexon45 and right from Nelamangala (50km from Bangalore) I was noticing a XEV9e on the same route. Vehicle is classy and huge no doubt. We both ended up again meeting at sakleshpur ( Surabhi Delicasy ) at a tata power 25kw charger. He reached around 5-10 minis before me. We got talking and he mentioned that he used up 50% range to get 220km. I had used up 60%. The charger was non functional so we had breakfast and continued to our drive to mangalore I reached mangalore with 15% spare and covered a total of 361km. Of course I have no idea what happened to the XEV9e after that. But he was super happy with the vehicle.

[Smartfella]

Originally Posted by abacusv

Hi Guys,


My question to all who own. How is the suspension? Every time I took a test drive, I was disappointed with the suspension. Yesterday I took another test drive, this time I wanted my wife to experience. I was at the front passenger and trust me I could not operate the passenger cluster. The ride was super bumpy and wobly. I had my brother in law sit in the back and he was thrown left and right on a bad road.
I thought these fleets have tons of patents filed on suspension. The adaptive suspension was not enabled in any of the test drive vehicles I had due to beta version cars or what not.

Ride experience yesterday really put me off and I feel I will have disappointment carry over. Any one here feel the same? Is the test drive vehicles that is the problem not the actual delivered cars? Please update.

Hi
I have felt similar on my xev 9e even on slightly potholed roads or road with relaid tarmac after digging work.

I guess the problem here is not the adaptive suspension, but the very soft tuned suspension which is causing lot of side to side movement, the moment when one tyre goes into a pothole or any undulation. However on a smooth surface with little cracks or over a speed bump, the ride quality feels much smoother and not as hard as I feel in my honda city. The initial teambhp review also talks about quite a bit of side to side movement. Perhaps the be6 has a harder suspension which I have read on the other forum

Maybe other bbpians can provide their inputs too

[Smartfella]

Originally Posted by Arteberus

Not having tires with foam is giving me FOMO (I have MRF Markus on my car and not the goodyears) so I reached out to Mahindra and they were willing to change my tires to Goodyear but the service advisor suggested to stick with mrf because the goodyears supplied are of soft compound and they’re getting many puncture and sidewall cutting issues - thoughts? What are your views on that? Do you think I should change to the goodyears or is he likely being honest?

I have received MRF tyres too. I also consulted a friend of mine who has a tyre showroom. He too was of the opinion that if the road noise isn't bothering you much then you can stick with the MRF tyres since they are the premium offerings from MRF and stability and grip wise should be better than goodyear.

[sarathlal]

AR Rahman got his 9E

[abacusv]

Originally Posted by Smartfella

Hi
I have felt similar on my xev 9e even on slightly potholed roads or road with relaid tarmac after digging work.


Maybe other bbpians can provide their inputs too

The video demonstrating wine glasses and real world experience is totally opposite. Just to make sure I am not making up this.. I took a test drive of Atto3 today and drove the exact road and the difference as easily felt. Atto3 experience was extremely smooth on the same road neither the back seat passenger nor the front passenger ride experience felt any where bumpy on the road where we were thrown out of the seat.

[purohitanuj]

Mahindra official Instagram has quoted my review and point of view!

https://www.instagram.com/p/DIi5ErGyZP6

[TkyoPandaMan]

I currently own an XUV700 and had some issue with the boot hatch. On closing the boot, it just wouldn't shut. I kept trying but to no avail. So decided to go visit the service center in Noida. Once I reached there and parked my car inside, I saw not one, not two, but almost 4-5 XEV 9E's just sitting there. (and one or two BE 6's) as well.

I was quite surprised at this sight, thinking that these cars have just started getting on the roads barely 2-3 weeks back, and already quite a few of them in the service centers.

I managed to chat with a few of the owners who had come there themselves and all of them indicated that the car had some or the other issues. While they also all accepted that initial niggles would definitely crop up, a few of them stated some common problems.

And this was to do with the battery or rather secondary battery. Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding, but that is what some of the owners told me. The secondary battery just stopped charging. Due to this, the car came to a standstill and had to be towed with the Road Side Assistance from Mahindra.

In addition they mentioned AC problems (suddenly stopped working)

Another had a Bluetooth connectivity issue wherein the phone was NOT connected to the system, while the screen was still showing the connection, or vice-versa, I don't quite remember the exact order.

Another owner mentioned that the screen would just freeze for a while and then come back on. And this happened during the time he was driving the car. (I also have experienced this issue frequently with my XUV700)

I am not trying to find problems with the XEV 9e (as I have actually also booked it myself), but these are quite glaring issues which affect the overall drive and ownership experience.

I am also contemplating whether or not I should wait a bit more or just cancel my booking altogether and figure it out later in the year. All the owners I met at the service center told me that I should probably wait and get it later. When I asked them why they decided to get it now, most of them told me they knew someone in Mahindra and they recommended the car. Strange, but guess reference buying in cars is a thing too.

In any case it does look like a very good car, well equipped, tech-laden and performance oriented as well. Just hope that these issues, especially the battery issues (which multiple owners mentioned) get sorted out sooner rather than later.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by TkyoPandaMan

And this was to do with the battery or rather secondary battery. Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding, but that is what some of the owners told me.

When I went for my service, I was made aware that a batch of XEVs/6Es with Exide (may be I am wrong here) secondary 12V battery are facing some charging issue or loosing charge on its own. This is leading to car switching of AirCon (maybe for some reason). Hence, the cars were getting the aux battery changed. They checked my VIN and concluded that battery change is not required in my case.

[SLK]

I think the ride is very good for an SUV this high. Its very smooth and cushioned. About the wine-glass experiment, that is a marketing gimmick, that can't be achieved by any car unless there was a way to sense the road ahead and actively compensate for that.

Ride quality is also a very personal preference, but I'd say thrown around is a bit of an extreme reaction to this car. By that standard I'm not sure how are people with a Fortuner even surviving.

PS: I hear a lot on using power-saving mode for highways, but ACC didn't work in power-saving mode, how is that even convenient or a real option!

Overall, I got my car later than expected (after some bit of apprehensions and excuse making!), but still got it with a reasonable amount of insurance, without charger, no push for accessories and no issues (other than small stuff). So, often I'm unable to relate to some of the extreme reactions here, at least my car is doing well, and I'm learning about it as I go. If someone wants an absolutely niggle-free car, base version of Innova is the way to go.

[purohitanuj]

Originally Posted by sdeepak29

:
You mentioned covering 2000 km with just 4 charging cycles. That’s quite impressive

I am using L1 on the highways and 1pedal in the city. The car also regens heavily on L1, when the brake pedal is pressed. The driver can fine-tune and modulate the brake pedal to rely on regen level braking only till a threshold.

This becomes like the best of both worlds-option.

Originally Posted by sdeepak29

2. Insect Splatter on Highways:
On long highway drives, insect splatter tends to be a recurring nuisance, especially on the front fascia, windshield and ORVMs

The front grill becomes a mess during highway driving as cleaning it is also a bit difficult. One needs to carry earbuds to clean the grill effectively. I have got PPF done over the entire patter as of now and its looking decent. Will take final call going forward. PPF on white color car could be tricky due to yellowish of the film. I have got PPF with 12 Years of warranty, but how it pans out, can only be seen in the future.
Ceramic coating (regular application) should make the life a bit easier.

Originally Posted by SLK

PS: I hear a lot on using power-saving mode for highways, but ACC didn't work in power-saving mode, how is that even convenient or a real option!

ACC would generally give poor efficiency when compared to manual driving as it would use good amount of energy while maintaining pace on inclines ( like bridges ) while manually, one would sacrifice the speed a bit, and not try to maintain the exact speed. I have yet not come across any ACC ( in petrol / diesel or EV ), which can extract better efficiency than my right foot.