[DevilinDiguise]

Originally Posted by Endyguy

Great to know that most niggles have been sorted out! I'm expecting delivery sometime during June or July. I just wanted to know, is Apple CarPlay been unlocked yet?

Had seen some posts on telegram groups that couple of people have got updates and Carplay has started working for them. Was at my service centre today and they confirmed that they just got the go ahead from Mahindra tech to install the updates. My car is at the shop for the updates, will confirm and share photos tomorrow evening if it's actually done.

[dkaile]

I don't get this reasoning from many EV owners that the car has had so and so errors, this and that doesn't work, was nearly on a flat bed, I'm not the only one it's happening to, but still is a absolute bliss!

How is that even acceptable? Investment protection syndrome?

Cheers.

[warp_10]

Reading this thread gives me a Mani Ratnam story telling felling, its just going back and forth between stories with two different emotions at their peaks

But on a serious note, looks like its a 50% hit or miss based on how the car ends up choosing you. Folks comparing Hycross to these, I am sorry but they are in different leagues of reliability.

[abacusv]

I cancelled my booking twice.
1st xev 9e Nebula Blue first day of the booking opened. I had asked for second slot, but the dealer had made 45 days of delay which got delayed beyond may 2025. I felt pack2 is better choice if I waited this long.
2nd booking xev 9e pack2 Deep forest. This I had to cancel again
a) No guarantee of delivery in first slot
b) The actual reason for cancel. The vehicle performed poor in drive comfort specially on bangalore city infamous patchy roads. Neither the driver nor the passengers felt comfortable in a bumpy road. A 35L worth car should deliver much comfort than jazzy toys. Few km of drive I got motion sickness.
c) And hit or miss probability of M&M after sales.

I'm a long time EV owner. I am used to the silence rides. Many who are first timers for EV specially coming from diesel Variants I am sure you will be amazed by the silence ride but XEV 9E is not the best in the class. They are long way to go compared to even Tata on suspension and drive quality.

My advise to first time EV buyers, test drive the other EVs in the market and compare the drive feel before you are blown away with what M&M offers.
I really hoped M&M created a disruptive market with these twins. To me they have not.

Lastly, some of the posts of people travelling long distance is very motivating and thats the new norm for EVs. Your trip starts from planning day itself not on the day of journey and journey becomes part of story not just the destination. With EVs becoming very popular infrastructure is improving at same pace. I feel charge anxiety will only remain as posts of the past. At least south India is well equipped with charging infra so do not hesitate.

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by abacusv

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I'm a long time EV owner. I am used to the silence rides. Many who are first timers for EV specially coming from diesel Variants I am sure you will be amazed by the silence ride but XEV 9E is not the best in the class. They are long way to go compared to even Tata on suspension and drive quality.

My advise to first time EV buyers, test drive the other EVs in the market and compare the drive feel before you are blown away with what M&M offers.
I really hoped M&M created a disruptive market with these twins. To me they have not.

I think this is a very interesting and surprising feedback because I thought the suspension setup of these cars were supposed to push the state of the art few notches up (in this price range of course).

Did you get a chance to drive the other sibling BE6E ? what is your feedback ? I am asking this because a long term EV owner would be a better judge than people moving out of noisy Diesels.

[abacusv]

Originally Posted by electric_eel

I think this is a very interesting and surprising feedback because I thought the suspension setup of these cars were supposed to push the state of the art few notches up (in this price range of course).

Did you get a chance to drive the other sibling BE6E ? what is your feedback ? I am asking this because a long term EV owner would be a better judge than people moving out of noisy Diesels.

I had driven during the initial test drive. I had not given keen observation on BE6 then as I was interested only in XEV 9e so cannot provide much feedback.

Where as XEV 9e I took multiple test drive on the same road of different vehicles from different dealers and all of them failed my expectation when it comes to drive quality. For fair comparison I took BYD atto3 which comes in the same range of XEV 9E pack 3. BYD drive feel and suspension is lot better. If I keep the national sentiments aside, I would any day prefer Atto 3 over XEV 9E.

Add to that my perception was confirmed after driving Windsor EV. Windsor EV has way less power but suspension is lot better compared to these beasts.

Pack2 and Pack1 price range you cannot complain much. But you have better offerings from the competitors I feel at this price range too. This is my opinion overall. And one can always argue it subjective.

[SLK]

Originally Posted by abacusv

The vehicle performed poor in drive comfort specially on bangalore city infamous patchy roads. Neither the driver nor the passengers felt comfortable in a bumpy road. A 35L worth car should deliver much comfort than jazzy toys. Few km of drive I got motion sickness.

Its not so bad! Considering the height of the car there is obvious movement and stiffness that is needed in the suspension, which every tall car has, including tata Nexon.

At least for me, all the tata EVs I've been in, (not the latest Nexons), none of them were silent, in fact there is so much road noise that above 30km/h my ICE 1.8 TSI is more silent!

And coming for the suspension of the 1.8Tsi Octavia, I felt XEV to be more robust, but yes, it does make its height related stiffness felt when sharp changes in road happen, I still don't see a problem! Motion sickness within few kms, that's a bit much!

Originally Posted by abacusv

For fair comparison I took BYD atto3 which comes in the same range of XEV 9E pack 3. BYD drive feel and suspension is lot better. If I keep the national sentiments aside, I would any day prefer Atto 3 over XEV 9E.

I haven't driven so can't comment, but Atto3 has ground clearance of a sedan, its not even a straight comparison.

[masterkjn]

Originally Posted by dkaile

I don't get this reasoning from many EV owners that the car has had so and so errors, this and that doesn't work, was nearly on a flat bed, I'm not the only one it's happening to, but still is a absolute bliss!

How is that even acceptable? Investment protection syndrome?

Cheers.

I have personally faced the dead LV issue and had to RSA. If they can fix the reliability issues i think these cars are absolutely fantastic and nothing compares to them - assuming they actually work the way they are supposed to and don't break down. Obviously if a car is unreliable , no amount of features/looks/drive comfort will justify it.

[electric_eel]

Originally Posted by abacusv

Add to that my perception was confirmed after driving Windsor EV. Windsor EV has way less power but suspension is lot better compared to these beasts.

Again this too is an opinion that I have not seen anywhere else. For all the positive review that Windsor garners, two of the negatives that I keep hearing is the over reliance on the infotainment systems and so-so suspension, the later being something that people complain about in ZS EV as well and MG cars in general.

In the other direction, for all the negative sentiments that Tata's QC throws up, most people seem to agree that its suspension setup is good. How do you compare the suspension setup of Tata's vs M&M's

I have only driven the Tata Nexon so I will not be able to judge these.

[ADI7YAK]

Originally Posted by warp_10

But on a serious note, looks like its a 50% hit or miss based on how the car ends up choosing you. Folks comparing Hycross to these, I am sorry but they are in different leagues of reliability.

May I know how is figure of 50% derived? Mahindra has dispatched more than 10k of these BEVs in last couple months. Let's say around 7k are actually sold. Are you trying to say 3500 BEVs are at the service centres?

[DeKay]

Originally Posted by abacusv

XEV 9e I took multiple test drive on the same road of different vehicles from different dealers and all of them failed my expectation when it comes to drive quality. For fair comparison I took BYD atto3 which comes in the same range of XEV 9E pack 3. BYD drive feel and suspension is lot better. If I keep the national sentiments aside, I would any day prefer Atto 3 over XEV 9E.

Add to that my perception was confirmed after driving Windsor EV. Windsor EV has way less power but suspension is lot better compared to these beasts.

Just goes to show how subjective ride quality really is. I actually own an Atto 3, and while it does feel slightly better over broken roads at city speeds, I found the 9e to be significantly better at highway speeds. The 9e felt more planted and composed, especially above 100 km/h. Braking was also noticeably better in the 9e, more confidence-inspiring overall.

As for the Windsor, that one felt like a complete disaster to me. Way too hard and unsettled. Not to mention terrible NVH. Definitely not something I’d go near, even with an 8-foot pole.

[warp_10]

Originally Posted by ADI7YAK

May I know how is figure of 50% derived? Mahindra has dispatched more than 10k of these BEVs in last couple months. Let's say around 7k are actually sold. Are you trying to say 3500 BEVs are at the service centres?

I don’t think any comment of mine was on xev production. There are two stories on the thread. One positive, one negative. 50% ?

[yashwanthan]

With regards to the update, I dropped off the car today for some running repairs and was informed that there is a new update which is taking around 5 hours to complete.

The car is still at the ASC and expected to be delivered tomorrow after the repair completion and the update. I will share details on the update once pick it up tomorrow.

[DevilinDiguise]

Got the Firmware updated today. Finally got Apple Carplay. Will check if anything else is fixed in the update.

[DeKay]

Originally Posted by DevilinDiguise

Got the Firmware updated today. Finally got Apple Carplay. Will check if anything else is fixed in the update.

Does the audio sound any better? How's the audio quality overall while playing through CarPlay, compared to the in-built Gaana app?