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Old 2nd February 2025, 20:22   #481
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

Contacted the Koncept Mahindra Sec-2 Noida showroom, and they said BE 6 isn't available for TD as the vehicle had a minor accident during the test drive so it's currently in the service centre.
Not sure if people are finding it difficult to handle the instant torque and power of these EVs or if these incidents with Mahindra twins are only being highlighted due to the hype that has been created.
I'm not in a hurry to test it out as I'd probably go with Pack 3 59KWh which won't be available for booking this month. Hoping they price is reasonably and not force the consumers to buy a charger along because I see no point in getting one due to the fixed electricity cost and installation cost that comes along with it.
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Old 2nd February 2025, 22:13   #482
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Contacted the Koncept Mahindra Sec-2 Noida showroom, and they said BE 6 isn't available for TD as the vehicle had a minor accident during the test drive so it's currently in the service centre.
Not sure if people are finding it difficult to handle the instant torque and power of these EVs.
I have seen another accident video of Red BE6 couple of days ago and the first one was in Hyderabad. If the one you mention is not a red BE6, then there are about 3 accidents that have happened with BE6. One or more of these combinations - 280 HP engine, instant torque, Level3 regen mode which results in somewhat harsh braking for newbie, Race mode could result in BE6 going out of control in test drives as per my perspective. There is lot of responsibility on salesperson's shoulder to make people first comfortable with the car and not want to drive fast to experience adrenaline rush.

BE6 is marketed by Mahindra as sporty car and Mahindra showcased Gaurav Gill doing wheel spins with BE6. I feel this type of marketing makes some salesperson as well as people coming for test drives push car out of limits in test drives. There are no such incidents reported for XEV9E which is marketed.
BE6 test drive accidents bring back memories of people running into accidents when KTM Duke 200 was launched about 11 years ago. My SA started the car in Race mode and Level3 regen and consciously moved to Everyday drive mode and Level1 regen to first get grip of car's drivability. I changed to Race mode and Level3 regen only in the last part of test drive and that too only on 3 km empty road with no traffic.

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Old 3rd February 2025, 08:24   #483
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

BE 6 is a super car at a affordable price compared to old school super cars. As is said "with great power comes great responsibility". This car at best should be driven in range mode within city which itself is quite fast and also one need to be 100% attentive while driving because it's pick up is insane !
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Well. This information just breaks my heart..because the Be6 looks like the batmobile in black. I'll probably change the booking now to firestorm orange or desert mist gloss. My heart craves the black but I don't see a point if it gets in the way of range
My brother and I both own the MG ZS EV. His is black and mine is white. The range difference is barely 10 kms on a Summer day. While the colour of the car matters, I think driving style matters a lot more and also how cold you like the cabin. If you really like how black looks, don't bother too much about the range.
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My brother and I both own the MG ZS EV. His is black and mine is white. The range difference is barely 10 kms on a Summer day. While the colour of the car matters, I think driving style matters a lot more and also how cold you like the cabin. If you really like how black looks, don't bother too much about the range.
There is a delta of 27 Celcius between a white and black car surface temperature and the black color car was at 71 Celsius. In India the temperature is even higher.


This thread shows how much a HVAC unit consumes. Blue color car is slightly better than black.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...ted-cabin.html (Experiment: Parked car under the sun | How many kWh to cool the superheated cabin?)

The range difference between a black car and a white car depends on how many hours of driving you do under the hot sun, typically from 11am to 4pm. That's when the AC struggles even in a regular car in summer.

I expect a black car to pull a additional 0.6 kWh of energy initially to cool the cabin and from there on a additional 0.2 kWh to sustain the cooling for every hour of driving compared to a white car with normal roof.

Generally in variable speed compressor, the temperature rise and compressor speed/power consumption is not linear. After a certain temperature, the compressor really ramps the speed. Most compressor have the best COP when it's running at 50% capacity.

So if the EV has a AC compressor that is not powerfull enough and is always operating at near max speed, expect poor efficiency.
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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

I was pretty much sold on the car and had even given the PDC, but all these reports about the car not moving after minor collisions, displays not working properly, etc., are making me have second thoughts. Though I have taken multiple test drives and, so far, have found the UI to be very responsive and loved the power, comfort, and suspension. I just hope Mahindra doesn’t disappoint.
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I was pretty much sold on the car and had even given the PDC, but all these reports about the car not moving after minor collisions, displays not working properly, etc., are making me have second thoughts. Though I have taken multiple test drives and, so far, have found the UI to be very responsive and loved the power, comfort, and suspension. I just hope Mahindra doesn’t disappoint.
Same here. I've decided to wait a few months and hopefully all the kinks would have been ironed out by then. Loved the car during my test drive as well. The car just feels premium and complete. The cabin sound insulation is amazing, sound system is just bonkers (better than 70-80L Mercedes I've sat in) and the mechanicals are also great. Even the small things are premium, like it uses a heat pump for heating up the cabin instead of resistance heating, or the VGR steering is amazing.

Also we'll get the prices and specs of pack 2 and if pack 2 also packs (hehe) the 16 speaker sound system and basic ADAS (I just want adaptive cruise control), it'll be amazing value for money. I don't care about fancy cabin light show or sunroof.

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Re: Mahindra BE 6 Review

+1 to the comments above.

When the prices were announced, I was completely sold. Was ready to book the BE6 as soon as the booking opened, but unfortunately, the Pack 3 prices were quite above my expectation. In hindsight, it would perhaps be good for me as I will now wait and watch before instinctively taking the plunge.

With EV, the resale value is quite poor, so unlike an ICE car, keeping one for 2-3 years and then upgrading to another car will be a very poor financial decision. So will rather wait and watch (listen to my head). Thankfully my current drive is a Mahindra Thar, so my heart is not going to complain.

My gut feel is that Pack 2 pricing will be completely dependent on Pack 3 booking response. If the response is not great, it may nudge Mahindra to possibly offer a value-for-money pricing for Pack 2 (as they do for Pack 1).

Time to wait and watch.
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M&M's New Electric Vehicle: A Test Drive Analysis

I had an opportunity to see and test drive the BE6e last weekend.

After a couple of follow-ups, finally, M&M Sahyadri Motors, Baner has confirmed the availability of the cars at their showroom.

The showroom is still under renovation so they have arranged all the test drives and new car deliveries outside in a Madap.

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About the car: Upon waiting for nearly 40 min. I got a chance to try my hands on BE6e. The car was from the media event which they were using for the test drives.

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Looks: One word—WOW! It's futuristic.
The car is undoubtedly a head-turner and grabs the attention of ongoing traffic. It looks even more impressive in person than in pictures and this color is refreshing. I am a little worried about how the design will grow on you. Will the initial excitement fade away with time? Will it age well?

Well much has already been talked about the looks which are subjective so I leave it for the audience.

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The huge air dam for the aerodynamics.

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The wheel design looks cool but the cover feels like plastic.

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The Key looks and feels premium

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Interior: Open the door and the memory seats give a nice & welcoming gesture.
Getting In and out of the driver's seat is a tedious job for a tall person due to high floor height. I am 5'10 and was not very comfortable to get in.
Once you are in, the seats feel very comfortable and sporty and hug you very well. The entire cabin feels refreshing and plush.

I appreciate the fit and finish of M&M on both vehicles (yes I also saw XEV9e). Tata, if you are listening.

The door feels heavy and this strap handle feels strong and durable enough to last long. The switches on the doors are new and feel premium.

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The footwell is of decent size. The dead padel provides good support to the left leg

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All controls are within reach and easy to operate except those given on touch screen display.
Don't understand why OEMs want us to distract while driving.

The steering wheel feels premium and nice to hold. It weighs well as you increase the speed and is super light while slow-moving.

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The touchscreen display is bright and clear to read even in a broad daylight. Same for the cluster. Dont miss the range figures which is showing 161 km at 56% remaining battery.

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Jet plane style controls for lights, Skyroof, and Others.

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Some more controls below the dashboard towards the right of the steering

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Again a jet plane-style gear lever with an in-built parking brake. + and - are used for the regeneration.
Regeneration feels very intrusive if I compare it with Tata Punch. You will feel intrusion very aggressively and the rear passenger will not like it. Need to confirm this in a longer test drive.

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Two separate wireless chargers and a bottle holder.

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A place to keep a key, a start-stop button, and a BMW copy to controls function on the screen. Piano black already started showing the scratches.

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There is a small pocket under the front armrest and it is ventilated

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The HUD is a nice to-have feature and provided information is well visible in daylight. As per SA, the position of display is adjustable. Not sure though.

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Rear Seat: If you want to be this car, it is the front seat where you want to be. The rear seat is not welcoming for a healthy adult. It is good to be here for some time but you can not sit for long journeys.

Due to the battery, the floor is raised up and you sit in a knee-up position; the headroom is also very limited due to the sloping roof. Legroom & under-thigh support is again a pain. The small rear door window makes things more difficult and feels claustrophobic.

I found the rear seat more congested than the Curvv.EV

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Under-thigh. (Apologies for the bad picture)
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The dock behind the front seat to mount the tablet

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Rear center armrests with two cup holders. The angle is perfect and comfortable

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This arrangement of the seat belt is an eyesore in an otherwise very plus cabin.

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View of the cabin from the rear seat. I like the front AC vents design.
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Music: Could not try much but the HK system with ATOMS feels great to the ears. I am still a fan of HK's configuration in Harrier/Safari.

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Different designs for the rear AC vents. Goes well with the cabin's overall jet-inspired layout but cleaning will be a painful job. It has already started accumulating dust.

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Driving: It was a small test drive not more than 5-6 Km to experience both the front and rear seats.
Press the start button and the only thing by which you can confirm that you are good to go is the instrument cluster and ICE comes back to life.
Push the accelerator and the EV will show its inherent characteristics of the huge torque available at your service. The car is fast and feels planted on rough surfaces. The suspensions are on the stiffer side to give more sportiness but behave well on the speed breakers. Though I have driven the car within the city speed limits but felt some amount of body roll on sharp turns.

My Verdict: BE6e is a nice and honest attempt by M&M. They have provided all the possible gizmos and features to attract the younger population. I really appreciate the fit, finish, and overall ambiance of the cabin.

I personally liked the car for the range and driving dynamics but spending 29L for a daily driver is a question.

Looking at the rear seat I think it will be a "let's drive" kind of car than to be driven around.

The price list is attached herewith for everyone's reference.

SMPL PRICE LIST MEAL B6E & XEV 9E 17.01.2025.pdf

Thanks for reading

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There is a delta of 27 Celcius between a white and black car surface temperature and the black color car was at 71 Celsius. In India the temperature is even higher.
https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=lcaiwad2M-U

This thread shows how much a HVAC unit consumes. Blue color car is slightly better than black.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/elect...ted-cabin.html (Experiment: Parked car under the sun | How many kWh to cool the superheated cabin?)

The range difference between a black car and a white car depends on how many hours of driving you do under the hot sun, typically from 11am to 4pm. That's when the AC struggles even in a regular car in summer.

I expect a black car to pull a additional 0.6 kWh of energy initially to cool the cabin and from there on a additional 0.2 kWh to sustain the cooling for every hour of driving compared to a white car with normal roof.

Generally in variable speed compressor, the temperature rise and compressor speed/power consumption is not linear. After a certain temperature, the compressor really ramps the speed. Most compressor have the best COP when it's running at 50% capacity.

So if the EV has a AC compressor that is not powerfull enough and is always operating at near max speed, expect poor efficiency.
Very good information, but looks like a worst case scenario in peak summer while parked outside.

A typical car's air conditioning system consumes around 3 kilowatts (kW) of power, so my reasoning was that paint colour won't make a difference in range for a normal user.

I also told you the real life experience of my brother and me owning the same EV. Both of us live in Chennai which gets pretty hot.
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My brother and I both own the MG ZS EV. His is black and mine is white. The range difference is barely 10 kms on a Summer day. While the colour of the car matters, I think driving style matters a lot more and also how cold you like the cabin. If you really like how black looks, don't bother too much about the range.
Hey there. So, I have taken time till Feb 12 to confirm the color id be choosing. For now IM between Stealth Black & Everest White Satin.
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it uses a heat pump for heating up the cabin instead of resistance heating
Hi, any source for this information?
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Very good information, but looks like a worst case scenario in peak summer while parked outside.

A typical car's air conditioning system consumes around 3 kilowatts (kW) of power, so my reasoning was that paint colour won't make a difference in range for a normal user.

I also told you the real life experience of my brother and me owning the same EV. Both of us live in Chennai which gets pretty hot.
Reading all this has only made my choices harder. I dont think I've been this confused with anything else before in my life.

I guess now it will all boil down to what my wife likes better.

But honestly, I do feel going for the Satin white makes more sense, because it takes lesser effort to cool the cabin as temperatures are only rising year on year.
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There is a delta of 27 Celcius between a white and black car surface temperature and the black color car was at 71 Celsius
This information is not relevant for range difference calculations as when the car is moving, it keeps transferring its heat to the nearby wind. So actually car's surface temperature is not that much different from the atmosphere temperature.

Air temperature is far more important factor affecting the range. In fact higher air temperature hinders battery cooling, as coolant is not able to effectively pass the heat from itself to the surroundings.

And one should not park any colour car under direct sunlight if the priority is to get the range.
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Hi, any source for this information?
I had a proper source but can't find it. There was a source with slides on their pre launch factory tour, but this thread mentions it as well. It doesn't have the slide with heat pump though, unfortunately, so not enough source.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CarsIndia/c...heat_pump_and/

Anyway in India it won't be used as we just need the cooling.
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