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| Pre-owned Hyundai Kona EV | 60,000 km ownership review ![]() Since, we already have quite a few owners who have provided detailed reviews and ownership experiences on the car, especially related to the operating expenses. So, a fair heads up - i will be reinforcing their experiences, with a bit more figures. Drive & Ride Experience EV’s in general are easier and predictable, to drive, than any automatic ICE. The one pedal driving adds a layer of safety and convenience that ICE vehicles cannot match. The Kona’s felt just a notch better than the other EV’s at that time. Key features: Kona specific – Hyundai had taken quite a lot of stuff that EV’s do good and made it so much more better with the Kona ![]()
Nothing can have pros all around, there are always some “CON”cerns: Kona specific – Why Hyundai, Why ![]()
Applicable to all EV’s
Finally the Numbers Note: Figures are only with soft compound tires like Michelin Primacy and Continental UC6. I have purposefully omitted figures with low rolling resistance stock tires, as these were giving 20+% better results while seriously sacrificing grip/traction and riding characteristics. (I did maintain another thread if anyone was interested on those numbers Efficiency Obsessed Driving (Hyundai Kona – Beating the ARAI rating of 452 km/single charge without extreme hypermiling measures) ) And importantly, I am quite a sedate driver. Example of my timings(including city bottlenecks): Chengannur - Bangalore is around 14.5 hours, Bangalore - Hyderabad around 10 hours, Chengannur – Ernakulam 2.25 hours, Chengannur – Trivandrum 2.25 hours and so on. Folks who have done these journeys can now understand how i drive. Drivetrain/Trip Efficiency (km/KWh)
Portable Charger AC Efficiency (KWh charged/actual consumed)
Fast Charger DC Efficiency (KWh charged/actual consumed)
Running Costs Cost of Running Rs/km with extensive public station charging
Cost of Running Rs/km with only charging at home
Maintenance Costs
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| re: Pre-owned Hyundai Kona EV | 60,000 km ownership review The things that i absolutely adore about this car: First & Foremost – Kona feels like an absolute “Tech-Wheels“(meme Hot-Wheels), for me the Kona seemed the most versatile of the lot. Between 3 drive modes (+1 speed limited) with each having it’s own unique combination of 5 regen levels (0,1,2,3 and paddle pull), meant that the car can have multitude of options across the entire spectrum. From the most tenacious ECO mode to the squealing wheel spins in SPORTS mode, Kona can tune itself across the entire spectrum. And the best part the paddle shifters, far more intuitive than fiddling with buttons on console. The paddle pull has always provided substantial braking before the foot reached the brakes in emergency braking situation. Hyundai gave even a choice for charging wattage - not something that other EV manufacturers thought of back then. Secondly, I have an efficiency obsessed brain. This car gives the feedback to almost everything real time. ![]() It has enough interactive feedback to make me feel like gamifying my every aspect of my drive. The tool ![]() While i am not obsessed to max out on the range, I am absolutely obsessed to reach my destination most efficiently and ensure even charge most optimally. I want to know how each factor will affect the car’s charge efficiency – what difference do the tires make, the air conditioning makes, the DC vs AC charging cycle makes. Charging cycles – Have tried portable & DC charging at different KW rating’s, different timings and different climate just to figure how the vehicle behaves. (Post still in works.) I do sometimes pick a slower 30KW charger over a 60 KW charger when the trip allows. As this does not initiate the “Battery Care cooling”. So all the units are consumed only by the battery. Air-Conditioning – Played around with settings to see what all it can do. How each setting modifies convenience according to seasons and at what cost to the energy stored. Posts on these: AC Experiments (Experiment: Parked car under the sun | How many kWh to cool the superheated cabin?) AC's in monsoon (EV-Specific efficiency quirks & tricks to improve range) Tires – My experiments meant changing tires even when they were as good as new. I had Primacy’s and they were swapped to UC6 just in the name of experiment. Even the UC6 may soon see it’s way out to another set. (Post still in works). Next experiment ?– Maybe a change in the colour of the interiors or even the exterior’s are next. Yes the car is a handsome blue, something which made me shell out more than what i should have got if for, but then white would make it a bit more efficient. Yet to settle the tussle between the heart and brain. And same with the Interior’s – Black is easier to maintain but white would help improve the cooling and the cramped feeling. My list of experiments and learning’s would definitely continue on this thread Efficiency Quirks (EV-Specific efficiency quirks & tricks to improve range) Something about the car that is frustratingly miserable The battery + cabin cooling system made worse by the fact that not all service centre’s are EV ready. Now the problem is that it keeps rearing it’s ugly head up again and again. Somehow the dealership here is trying it's best to keep this trouble tolerable. 3 round’s of repair have already been done for the compressor and the expansion valve. While fortunately they were done in the warranty period, it still requires a few unnecessary steps on a regular basis to ensure the valve and the compressor do not fail again. Unfortunately can’t expect Hyundai to do a redesign on a discontinued product so it's the dealership that is on the receiving end. This fear is just omnipresent, like always in the back of my head also because not all Hyundai service centers can fix it as of now. I can take the Kona without being concerned about the charging infrastructure, but even a slight noise from my compressor and i am on high alert. On a recent 1400 km “running around in nature” trip i realized that i only had 4 Hyundai service centers in the entire trip that could take in the EV’s. And the worst part was that at any given point of time only 1 of them would be available within a 100-200kms radius, whereas if it was an ICE then i would have been spoiled for choices. Hopefully this is resolved, once all the service centers start supporting EV’s. |
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| Re: Pre-owned Hyundai Kona EV | 60,000 km ownership review The Blue Marble comes home Better late than never, the "prequeal" to the ownership post. This was due for more than two years. Fair warning this is an excruciatingly long post. About me and my Background: I am a guy who dreams of carefully mulling over an idea, in high hopes of a “well thought out decision making process” and a planned execution like “clockwork”. But destiny (or maybe my heart) usually ends up taking me on a course which is usually quite different. The ongoing overly cautious buying process was interrupted by an impulse purchase. The vehicle made its entry during a period of complete upheaval in our lives. History - Being city dwellers from a middle class family, we relied completely on public transport. Neither us nor our relatives had ever owned any vehicle, until a few years ago. So, it suffices to say that i was a complete novice when it came to ownership. But that does not mean i was oblivious when it came to cars, i was decently informed. Though the only driving i had done was as backup driver in friend’s cars for long trips or when they were too drunk (advantage of being a non drinker), and maybe sometimes as the emergency driver for the company’s vehicle. But all this changed when we decided to say farewell to the cities and go back to our roots – a small village in Kerala. A complete shock in terms of convenience and lifestyle. A limited public transportation system centered around larger towns, meant it was very difficult to manage in the villages without our own means of transport especially for a nomadic soul like me. Hence, started the search for our first car - With all the fears, qualms and the perceived weight of the first big purchase. What we needed The environment at home with all the suggestions trickling in, pointed to a simple people mover – fuel efficient & reliable. A budget friendly Maruti and keep it till it dies or i die. They actually did not expect a lot of driving from me as i was an advocate of public transport. So a cheap Maruti with less running and no thought on ROI was considered as the best option. Or maybe go after a good Honda / Toyota if I was willing to "Splurge" just for my headstrong insistence on safety ratings. ![]() Source: TeamBHP And most importantly "NEW" Vehicle, no seconds - Family's too wary of second hand vehicles (Mom actually was quite eagerly looking forward to the new car ceremony). But for me the biggest concern was that all were fossil fuel powered cars aka ICE’s. What “I TRULY WANTED” Don’t get me wrong, i do like ICE’s also. But for the "Environmentally Conscious" heart and an "Efficiency Obsessed" brain that i had, the electric car was the solution. 80% efficiency of EV vs 20% efficiency of ICE, regenerative braking and the best part put solar on rooftop and we have a lid on the running emission’s. In fact i was waiting for years for Nissan Leaf to come to Indian shores, as the options in Indian market the E2O and the eVertio had a range that i could cover on my cycle. So after quite some dilly-dallying, in a soul liberating session, at the home front - it was decided to take the once in a lifetime plunge. EV it is - just go with what i like, even if it meant taking a one time financial hit or worse “A LOAN”. Selection and the Purchase Process Even in hindsight i am not sure which is harder, narrowing down the selection or the purchase process. I could try as meticulously as possible to make a rational decision but destiny would throw in a wrench. (though i must admit it also brings about opportunities, for the taking) The selection process went something like this Tata Tiago -> Kona -> MG ZS -> Drop EV for now or even look back at ICE's -> Wild card entry, Kona(pre-owned). Briefly speaking, the experiences were as such: Mahindra ‘s XUV 400 – The poor efficiency and rigid driving modes were a huge turn off. For me it neither seemed value for money as Tiago nor as good as Kona or ZS to justify a loan. Moreover with Mahindra’s track record with E2O and E-Verito, there seemed no hope of redeeming this product with later updates / improvements. So this was dropped without much thought. Tata Motor’s Tiago - Newest kid in town ![]() Source: TeamBHP Pros – Budget friendly(the only EV i could outright buy without denting my financials with loan.), light and efficient, easier entry exit for the shorter folks at home. Cons – The infamous service support (its hard to survive a lemon with the Indian maker), non ergonomic regen and drive mode controls, very odd / confusing “Efficiency” information display The huge popularity meant they initially dictated the terms, when it came to pricing, availability and agreement on vehicle PDI before invoicing. A huge turn off during the initial phase itself. Though atleast these guys did later come back offering the same terms and conditions they had earlier rejected. But the huge cases of unsolved issues running around and personally seeing folks distressed with this, made it a worrisome option, especially if we were to get saddled with a lemon. The more i read, the more service support nightmares started cropping up. Hyundai Kona – The underrated Performer ![]() Source: TeamBHP Pros – Highest efficiency that i have ever seen, Energy Consumption Information display and highly customized drive options. And minimal infotainment/connected car features(its actually an advantage for me) Cons – Ground Clearance, High Cost(meant a Loan). Yes, i have a soft corner for the underrated types. But it still is a performer. The efficiency of this vehicle, is what had made me consider it. Even though it would need the helping hand of predatory car loan to get it. The brain was so obsessed with the efficiency that the rational of financials was completely lost on it. The problem was while i was hearing of discounts on Kona in the other cities, Hyundai here had nothing to offer so that meant 2+Lakhs over what folks outside of Kerala were getting for(even after offsetting the road tax) But then during the Test Drive, Kona scraped at the entry to my parking and worse part - due to the wet tires + tiles it was even unable to get inside (wheelspin due to no traction). Hence, this was rejected with a heavy heart. It was later only that i realized that even a sedan with similar wheelbase and low GC's like the Kona’s could enter my parking and that the Kona's stock tires were known to have no grip. This realization drove home the fact that the Kona’s test drive vehicle was facing a sagging suspension and worn out tires, the sad reality of test drive vehicles. MG ZS - the all rounder of the lot. ![]() Source: TeamBHP The car that was the fallback option. It may not have all the capabilities of the Kona but then neither did it have those shortcomings. Pros – All rounder, Spacious, No GC issue, A no brainer if anyone thinks of it rationally. Cons – High Cost(meant a Loan), Sunroof in the ”Exclusive” was a big No-No, no regen level "0"/ no coasting unless we feather the accelerator, no clarity on the base variant "Excite". It was almost shortlisted but then the pricing concerns again resurfaced with the MG here in Kerala. I was hearing huge discounts from other states but nothing from the MG here in Kerala. Somehow the fact that i am also taking a financial hit in this situation, just did not seem to sit well with me. Also realized later that the MG ZS’s base variant “Excite” was dumber than the “Exclusive” variant - it had no good energy consumption display. Hold off the purchase of EV for now Now this thought did cross my mind, but the fear of high level of digitization and the connected vehicle future was a bit too much. The subscription models, the higher risk of electronic failures and the connected nature were making atleast the near future look less appealing in terms of reliability. Add to that the direction in which the market was moving:
Last of the breed at around 10L budget. ![]() Source: TeamBHP But unfortunately Toyota’s, Honda’s had almost moved out of the so called budget segment. Just look at Toyota, i mean for me Toyota was dead in India, technically it has exited from India and now exists in the form of an outsourced Maruti. And Honda, to me seems like loitering around for namesake, i mean they have lesser options in their entire line-up, than what some of the brands have in just one type. Yes, my likings were more from the stable of Honda's/Toyota's. Reliable yet the underrated types – likes of Etios, even Yaris from Toyota or Jazz, BR-V from Honda. Pre owned Route A Blue Kona - an inter state purchase from bangalore. ![]() Pros - Direct owner, Closer to budget, supposedly niggle free based on the owner and service history Cons - a no go from family especially with Second hand concerns and also to some extent the unfulfilled desire of new car, the dings and the scratches that come part of the parcel And so almost as if on a whim, i was enticed with the option of looking at buying my selection of the car, at the price that i could afford (Or maybe the escapist in me hoping to avoid haggling with the sales advisors, i do not know.) Destiny deals the hand and heart beckons. The Rationale - I anyways do not have any capability to negotiate and was definitely on the losing side, be it a company or another owner. Better lose to another human. The human touch - The heart can easily be lulled in to a sense of security by acquaintance. The company and their sales advisors were after all the unknown. In this case, fortunately or unfortunately, the source brought about an added acquaintance factor to it. This brought down the fear induced defenses, that were usually reserved for the sales advisors. The Impulse - Somewhere a small excited child in me squeaked “And it is a nice blue in color”. I knew it right then that i am going to fail miserably in my negotiations. ![]() Yes, i got the car. And yes i failed miserably at the negotiation. But the Blue Marble came home. Unknown to me then though, the punishing saga of a failed battery cooling system was to ensue later. PDI/Checks - These checks do one of the two things, either reinforce the trust that it is a clean car with discovery of a few small hiccups or uncover the dreaded red flags and start giving reasons to back off.
Re-Registering in Kerala The NOC process at the Bangalore RTO process was handled by an agent due to the limited time there but the re-registration process in Chengannur was done by me. The officials at Chengannur RTO were quite forthcoming with all the information and the guidance, even with my added curiosities to know breakups, regulations and the intricacies of the process. The vehicle inspection was a breeze thanks in part to the RTO officials giving a heads-up on the process and the required documentation. The entire registration process with a new License plate and RC was smoothly through in less than a month with not more than an 2 hours spent at RTO + vehicle inspection. This in fact felt the fastest and easiest step in the entire process of the purchase. Closing Notes on the purchase decision A novice buying second hand, an unproven technology and with no definite way to test the vehicle. It was the perfect recipe for disaster, but i did survive it (Admittedly, more due to mom's prayers or sheer dumb luck, however you want to put it. ![]() Selection Process – To some extent i am glad that the MG deal never happened. I think for me, it was better to follow the heart (after all even destiny seemed to favor it). The best part – unlike the test drive Kona, mine did not scrape or face wet tire wheelspin issues ever. The things in Kona that are especially working out in my favor
To me it seemed, post COVID, the car manufacturers have found ways to:
But then there are owners here in Kerala who faced this issue in their brand new Kona’s. So, seeing that i was able to live with it, as atleast the car was still in warranty. (This same issue would have been extremely painful if it would have been a new car.) Fortunately the "Team BHP factor" helped Hyundai swing into action after the initial phase of dragging its feet. And to be fair, the Hyundai experience seems to have been quite good so far. But all said and done, in my defense (and oddly even in the previous owner’s defense) the misery I faced post the purchase was primarily the Kona’s design flaw. And somehow it seems the Bangalore’s cool weather kept it hidden well enough, only to be revealed later by the harsher conditions in Kerala. If you managed to read it till here, i must thank you for your patience ![]() Last edited by EV Fan : 14th May 2025 at 17:43. |
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| Re: Pre-owned Hyundai Kona EV | 60,000 km ownership review Ongoing Experiment with Tires The Kona for me is akin to a - "play dough" or a "molding clay" in the hands of a kid. And for all those who have tried different tires, know how well tires could change the character of the vehicle. So as usual, i went about experimenting with the tire options available. The first round was with the soft compound tires. Please do note that while soft compound tires are quite good, they do have one weakness. If the running is very low and the vehicle is sitting idle without moving an inch, these could face side wall issues (weakening/hardening/cracks) even with a lot of tire tread to spare. Basically the tire might have good tread life but the side wall would have been compromised. Also, for reference i have been using the EU tire rating labels. ![]() Source:EU Tire Rating Disclaimer: While i cannot confirm that the same EU rating label is applicable to the Indian variants of the tyre. This was the closest possible match in terms of the tire specifications. Kona Tire Specification - 215/55 R17 94V The Tires Nexen N Fera SU1 – Stock tires designed to help EV’s with the range test The Kona came stock with low rolling resistance Nexen N Fera SU1 tires. EU Tyre Rating ![]() Source: Nexen N'Fera SU1 Pros: Low rolling resistance These tires seemed to be good with the reduced rolling resistance, the perfect choice when going for range tests. It’s quite easy to achieve 12+Km/KWh. Cons: Poor wet weather traction, average cornering and braking characteristics
Michelin Primacy 4 ST – The most sought after tires, that can leave a hole in the pocket The first tire i wanted to try were the Michelin Primacy 4 ST. Now i was mentally prepared for the difference it would have made especially when coming from the stock Nexen’s. But i must stay i was caught off guard literally. The move from the Nexen’s to the Michelin actually did require substantial recalibration of the braking and range estimation. EU Tyre Rating: ![]() Source: Michelin Primacy 4ST? Pros: very good grip even in wet conditions (maybe even a tad too much), Good braking capability meant improved control on the vehicle’s momentum and confidence, good cornering capability meant higher average speeds, less road noise, very good comfort, high tire life, does not loose air even for extended periods
Continental UC6 – The all rounder that doesn’t break the bank Though slightly less capable than Primacy in the grip department, it manages to offset that in the “Value for money” perspective and with a mild advantage in the efficiency department. The other strange thing in the Conti UC6, is the road noise on certain type of road surfaces. The comparison for the Conti’s would be with the Michelin’s, as both of these tires are almost neck to neck and substantially superior to the Nexen’s EU Tyre Rating: ![]() Source: Continental UC6 Pros: Good grip, Good braking & cornering capability, good efficiency, high tire life, does not loose air even for extended periods, Value for Money
It seems higher than Primacy, on certain kind of tarred roads but still superior to Nexen’s anytime. The volume settings remained the same at what they were with the Primacy’s. Personal Experience: I would pick the Primacy if most of my driving is in the Ghat sections, even at the cost premium. It absolutely justifies it. For the efficiency obsessed brain "the grip" seemed a bit excessive and was a nagging feel at the back of the head. For highways and flat roads, it is the UC6. Does the job well enough and at the same time feels as a Value for Money proposition. But, after getting a taste of the confidence inspiring Primacy's especially on the curves. The UC6 seem mildly underwhelming, making me lean a bit towards the Primacy. And yes, i might feel like a bit of oddball case, to change tires at 5k. But i am just curious and want to try them personally. ![]() The online reviews are always perceptive(based on the reviewer), personal experiences can still vary a lot. And yes, now even the Conti's would be on their way out soon. To make way for a newcomer in the market - the EV ready Apollo Amperion. Last edited by EV Fan : 15th May 2025 at 11:45. |
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