[ferrarirules]

There has been a lot of chatter this year on the good or bad of EVs, but keeping all that aside. One thing is always true for any market -

"CONSUMER IS THE KING"

So, with H1-2025 coming to a close, I thought let's see the "king's" behaviour. Let's dive in and see what the data is showing for the first half of the year.

Overall 4-Wheeler Sales vs EV 4-Wheeler Sales

The car sales have been showing a downward trend this year where as EV sales are higher than last year but the trend is flat. This is shows that the consumer who is still in the market for a car is preferring EVs

Mass Market - 4-Wheeler Sales vs EV 4-Wheeler Sales

The market share in mass market segment is coming up but a bit slower. Biggest reason - Country's largest car retailer's EV is delayed

Premium Market - 4-Wheeler Sales vs EV 4-Wheeler Sales

Thanks to BYD and BMW providing amazing products at the right price. The market share of EVs in premium market is growing at a much faster rate.



EV vs Hybrid Market Share

Finally the most favourite topic of all HEVs (Strong Hybrid) are better than BEVs. HEV continue to suffer due to higher up front cost being charged by manufacturers, limited models on sale and lack of new model pipeline.

[GoBabyGo]

Hi ferrarirules, Thank you for the analysis. I have been considering going for the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder Strong Hybrid V model this month / next month (due to the unavailability of an EV charging option in my society, where neither a personal 15A socket is allowed nor has the management installed a common EV charger because of residents’ objections to the high per-unit electricity cost they had proposed e.g. Rs.16/- per unit), I had ruled out electric vehicles for now.

That said, your analysis has made me rethink my decision. I am now evaluating whether going for the Hyryder Hybrid truly makes sense, or if I should instead consider the Hyundai Creta SX Premium model.

PS - I am upgrading from Honda City VMT Petrol 2018 model

[Chrome6Boy]

Originally Posted by ferrarirules

There has been a lot of chatter this year on the good or bad of EVs but keeping all that aside. One thing is always true for any market -

[center]"CONSUMER IS THE KING"

4.5% is a great number in just 5 years.

India has been lucky that there is no strong anti / pro EV sentiment from politicians unlike in the West. This has led to EVs being judged for what they are, and what they will mean to each individual consumer.

Since a car is a big purchase, most people were understandably reluctant and now with EVs having gone mainstream since 2020, there are multiple ownership experiences available.

Once the economics become clear and range becomes understood, switching to EVs is a no brainer for most people with an available charging point at home / work.
Kudos to Tata, Mahindra and MG for bringing increasingly compelling EVs to the market at affordable prices.

I am hoping for an exponential growth in EV sales.

[2nd_gear_7krpm]

Originally Posted by GoBabyGo

(due to the unavailability of an EV charging option in my society, where neither a personal 15A socket is allowed nor has the management installed a common EV charger because of residents’ objections to the high per-unit electricity cost they had proposed e.g. Rs.16/- per unit), I had ruled out electric vehicles for now.

Atleast in Karnataka apartment complexes cannot refuse installation request for individual charging points especially after the jurisdictional High Courtruling on this very point. See this -

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/136727892/

Also, the Kar Govt / Electricity Corporation has issued some guidelines for EV charging. See this -

https://bescom.karnataka.gov.in/330/...g%20Station/en

I suggest you to do some research if your local govt. has come up with something similar. If not, it may be worthwhile approaching HC. Car purchase decision can never be at the mercy of association rules.

[Insane Devil]

Originally Posted by GoBabyGo

Hi ferrarirules, Thank you for the analysis. I have been considering going for the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder Strong Hybrid V model this month / next month (due to the unavailability of an EV charging option in my society, where neither a personal 15A socket is allowed nor has the management installed a common EV charger because of residents’ objections to the high per-unit electricity cost they had proposed e.g. Rs.16/- per unit), I had ruled out electric vehicles for now.

That said, your analysis has made me rethink my decision. I am now evaluating whether going for the Hyryder Hybrid truly makes sense, or if I should instead consider the Hyundai Creta SX Premium model.

PS - I am upgrading from Honda City VMT Petrol 2018 model

You are better off with the Creta Diesel as its super efficient, and you won’t have the hassels of depending on charging outside only.

[GoBabyGo]

Originally Posted by Insane Devil

You are better off with the Creta Diesel as its super efficient, and you won’t have the hassels of depending on charging outside only.

Hi Insane Devil - Thank you for your suggestion. However, due to the 10-year restriction on diesel vehicles in the NCR, owning a diesel SUV here can be quite challenging. Additionally, since my office is located in Delhi, there is the added concern of seasonal restrictions, every winter, the Delhi Government bans the entry of diesel vehicles for 2–3 months to combat air pollution. Although this restriction currently does not apply to BS-VI diesel vehicles, there is always a possibility that future regulations may include them as well.

Moreover, while evaluating options, I noticed that almost all BHPians who responded to my posts have advised against going for a hybrid, specially the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder Strong Hybrid. Their primary concern seems to be that the Hyryder feels more like a Maruti product in terms of build quality and interior materials, rather than a true Toyota. Taking these inputs into account, I have decided to drop the idea of considering the Toyota Hyryder Strong Hybrid for my upcoming purchase this month.

[Insane Devil]

Originally Posted by GoBabyGo

Hi Insane Devil - Thank you for your suggestion.

My mistake, i had no idea Delhi had such restrictions!

Yes, the Hyryder is definitely not up to the mark and feels far less than what you pay for. Whereas if you can stretch your budget to Hycross VX hybrid, that’s a gem.

The Creta electric is such a fine crafted vehicle, sadly, without having some form of dedicated charging within your society, its not recommended to have an EV.

If you own your flat, then as some suggested, you can definitely take the legal way and get your society to give you permission for a 16amp socet atleast in your parking.
In this case, the Creta Electric is best as ithas a smaller battery (40/50kw) and with higher range so you can make do with charging overnight daily with the slow charger

[Elevate2024]

Originally Posted by GoBabyGo

Thank you for your suggestion. However, due to the 10-year restriction on diesel vehicles in the NCR

The challenges of living in NCR, this specific rule forced me to buy a petrol car despite having a perfectly good running diesel vehicle. Nevertheless, if your average running is below 1000km/month, go for a simple petrol vehicle, diesel/hybrid/EVs doesn't make much sense with such low running and Creta/Seltos would be a good option.

However if your average run is beyond 1500km/month, the hybrid or diesel option can be considered. I get your concern around NCR policies on diesel but I dont think the govt will go after BS6 vehicles anymore, given the backlash they got on implementing the policy of seizing vehicles.

If you intend to keep your car for beyond 10 years with average running beyond 1500km then don't rule out hyryder/grand vitara strong hybrids or even City strong hybrid, don't base your decision on the badge only, check out the vehicles with a test drive. If you can wait it out, I am sure the society concerns will be taken care on EV charging in next year or so when more and more people would start opting for EVs and the problem will solve itself.

[tbppjpr]

Originally Posted by GoBabyGo

due to the 10-year restriction on diesel vehicles in the NCR, owning a diesel SUV here can be quite challenging.

If you have high running and fuel economy is an important factor then why don't you consider bi-fuel options like CNG?

Despite the challenges you mentioned, EV is still a better buy for high urban commuting, not only for the running cost, but also for the comfort and ease of drive they offer over conventional vehicles inside the city driving conditions. Especially those high-range, high-tech ultra-modern Mahindra EV twins are so much drool worthy that one should consider changing the restrictive residential society instead of dumping them if they fit in their requirements.

Don't forget, your car is your second home outside your primary home where you spend lot of time so choose wisely.

[GoBabyGo]

Originally Posted by tbppjpr

If you have high running and fuel economy is an important factor then why don't you consider bi-fuel options like CNG?

Despite the challenges you mentioned, EV is still a better buy for high urban commuting, not only for the running cost, but also for the comfort and ease of drive they offer over conventional vehicles inside the city driving conditions. Especially those high-range, high-tech ultra-modern Mahindra EV twins are so much drool worthy that one should consider changing the restrictive residential society instead of dumping them if they fit in their requirements.

Don't forget, your car is your second home outside your primary home where you spend lot of time so choose wisely.

Hi tbppjpr - My sincere apologies to all CNG vehicle owners, but personally, I find it inconvenient to wait in long queues for CNG refueling. While CNG cars are undoubtedly economical and environmentally friendly, the limited number of pumps and the frequent rush can be frustrating, especially during peak hours.

If I absolutely need a car for my daily office commute, I would much rather consider a self-charging strong hybrid like the Toyota Hyryder. It offers the convenience of a petrol engine with the fuel efficiency benefits of hybrid technology, and unlike CNG, there is no hassle of refueling queues or range anxiety. For urban driving, especially in NCR traffic conditions, a strong hybrid makes practical sense by offering excellent mileage without compromising on comfort and ease of use. In my opinion, CNG vehicles make a lot of sense for buyers with a budget of under Rs.10–12 lakhs (on-road).

Originally Posted by Elevate2024

Nevertheless, if your average running is below 1000km/month, go for a simple petrol vehicle, diesel/hybrid/EVs doesn't make much sense with such low running and Creta/Seltos would be a good option.

However if your average run is beyond 1500km/month, the hybrid or diesel option can be considered. I get your concern around NCR policies on diesel but I dont think the govt will go after BS6 vehicles anymore, given the backlash they got on implementing the policy of seizing vehicles.

If you intend to keep your car for beyond 10 years with average running beyond 1500km then don't rule out hyryder/grand vitara strong hybrids or even City strong hybrid, don't base your decision on the badge only, check out the vehicles with a test drive. If you can wait it out, I am sure the society concerns will be taken care on EV charging in next year or so when more and more people would start opting for EVs and the problem will solve itself.

Hi Elevate 2024 - I plan to keep my next car for a maximum of 5 to 6 years. After that, I intend to purchase what will likely be my final car, just before my retirement, which I hope to keep until the end of its life, or mine (), whichever comes first. This long-term approach will allow me to make a well-considered decision based on the evolving automotive landscape, including the future of EVs, hybrids, and cleaner fuel technologies.

Originally Posted by Insane Devil

My mistake, i had no idea Delhi had such restrictions!

Yes, the Hyryder is definitely not up to the mark and feels far less than what you pay for. Whereas if you can stretch your budget to Hycross VX hybrid, that’s a gem.

The Creta electric is such a fine crafted vehicle, sadly, without having some form of dedicated charging within your society, its not recommended to have an EV.

In this case, the Creta Electric is best as ithas a smaller battery (40/50kw) and with higher range so you can make do with charging overnight daily with the slow charger

Hi Insane Devil - The Toyota Hyryder was under serious consideration primarily because, in Uttar Pradesh, there is no registration cost for hybrid vehicles, just like electric vehicles. This exemption significantly reduces the overall cost of ownership. As a result, the on-road price of the Hyryder V Strong Hybrid comes to around Rs.20.50 lakhs (after discounts), which puts it in the same price bracket as Hyundai Creta SX Premium AT (Rs.20.35 lakhs after discount) and the Kia Seltos HTX AT (Rs.20.10 lakhs after discount).

In contrast, the Toyota Innova Hycross VX (O), is priced significantly higher at around Rs.30 lakhs on-road in Noida, which is beyond my budget.