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Old 13th August 2009, 01:56   #16
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Shocked to see 230 mpg. Would be great even if it manages 150mpg under real world conditions.
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Old 13th August 2009, 02:26   #17
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The 230 mpg is a marketing gimmick. The car runs on pure electric charge for first 40 miles and then the gas engine takes over. So if we drive the car for only 40 miles a day, then theoretically it can get infinite miles per gallon of gas. Seems EPA has said it to the same effect. Comparing range of an electric-gas hybrid to that of a gas hybrid is nothing but a marketing gimmick. If such comparisons are made, the Tesla roadster will be Volt hands down as it doesn't use any gas at all.
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Old 20th August 2009, 12:05   #18
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The 230 mpg is a marketing gimmick. The car runs on pure electric charge for first 40 miles and then the gas engine takes over. So if we drive the car for only 40 miles a day, then theoretically it can get infinite miles per gallon of gas. Seems EPA has said it to the same effect. Comparing range of an electric-gas hybrid to that of a gas hybrid is nothing but a marketing gimmick. If such comparisons are made, the Tesla roadster will be Volt hands down as it doesn't use any gas at all.
Not quite entirely true. I think you do not understand how they came to the 230mpg Figure. Basically They averaged gas price to $3 a gallon, and decided to calculate how far the vehicle could travel on pure electric mode only (several recharges) while the electric cost for such recharges would not cross $3 (8cents/kwh off peak).

Its interesting to note that in future, mileage will not be a product of consumption of oil, but a will factor the cost. That is miles/$
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Old 20th August 2009, 14:54   #19
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It is a plug Hybrid. Which means for local commutes the engine may never come on at all. Only if you need either a lot of power in a hurry, or the battery is getting low will the engine come on. This if you drive gently and do not exceed 40 miles a day you will get an Infinite mileage per gallon/litre/drop!
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It is a plug Hybrid. Which means for local commutes the engine may never come on at all. Only if you need either a lot of power in a hurry, or the battery is getting low will the engine come on. This if you drive gently and do not exceed 40 miles a day you will get an Infinite mileage per gallon/litre/drop!
As I briefly touched upon it in my earlier post, let me elaborate.

With so many sources of fuel (& in the works technology) coming out from Hydrogen powered Civics/All electric Nissan leaf/hybrids/EV's etc and not to forget the currrent ICE vehicles, miles/gallon shall be a extremely vague indicator of expenditure.

This was true when people compared just fuel vs diesal vehicles and tried to calculate cost mentally in their head.

Although "infinite miles / gallon" is true on paper the phrase doesnt make much sense. A EV can get "infinite miles/gallon" just as a ICE can get "infinite miles/kwh". or "infnite miles/gallon Hydrogen"

The true indicator in future shall be cost and it will boil down to miles/$ of the fuel spent
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Basically it means that the mileage figure is being calculated by factoring in the cost to make that electricy vs the fuel cost of a nor mal ICE for the same mileage.
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Read this news: Audi President Calls The Volt "A Car For Idiots"

Audi President Calls The Volt "A Car For Idiots"

As usual, the Audi president (like Indian film stars and politicians) denied making such a statement: read this (also read the various user comments)

Audi President Has Verbal Jolt for Volt - MSN Autos


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Old 29th July 2010, 20:27   #23
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Chevy Volt launched

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Three and a half years after introducing the concept Chevy Volt electric car, General Motors is finally answering the question of its price: $41,000 before a federal tax credit.

GM disclosed the pricing and touted the 340-mile range of the Chevy Volt on Tuesday at a conference on plug-in vehicles in San Jose, Calif.

The cost of a lease is $350 a month for 36 months with a $2,500 down payment. The Volt, which has an eight-year, 100,000-mile warranty, qualifies for a $7,500 federal tax credit, which brings the net purchase price to $33,500 after receiving the credit.

The Chevy Volt.
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People on Tuesday will be able to order a Volt from 2011 Volt | Electric Car | Chevrolet.com and be able to track the status of their order as GM starts delivery of the car later this year.

Initially, GM will offer the Volt in seven regions: California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Washington, D.C., Michigan, and Texas.

The company anticipates that it will sell 10,000 cars in the first year and then make the Volt available nationally and sell 30,000 units in 2012, GM executives said on a conference call on Tuesday.

The company hopes that higher volumes will bring down the price in the future, but some of that is already figured in, said Joel Ewanick, GM vice president of U.S. marketing.
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Too expensive for such a car. The Chevy Volt does not have anything revolutionary that it should cost above $40K! Even in long term savings, it would not beat the $20,000 less Prius. Seems like GM has taken advantage of all the hype that was created for this car.
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Too expensive for such a car. The Chevy Volt does not have anything revolutionary that it should cost above $40K! Even in long term savings, it would not beat the $20,000 less Prius. Seems like GM has taken advantage of all the hype that was created for this car.
I agree with you. Prius is selling for around 30L in India. Kudos to toyota (vast distribution network) for taking such initiative even though it still way to expensive for us. Wonder what the Volt pricing would be once its launched in India in the near future.
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Re: Chevrolet Volt all electric car images leaked

GM Offers to Buy Back Volts From Owners!

"General Motors Co. will buy back Chevrolet Volts from any owner who fears the car is a fire risk amid a U.S. safety investigation of its lithium-ion battery.
GM said Thursday it will miss a target to sell 10,000 Volts in 2011. The company said it will likely hit that number early next year. The company sold 1,139 Volts in November, bringing sales to 6,142 this year. GM has around a four month's supply of Volts in inventory, which is considered high."

GM Offers to Buy Back Volts - WSJ.com
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