The Official non-auto Image thread

Samurai · 14th June 2006, 17:40

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Originally Posted by ntomer

Why did you ask? The noise, I guess, is because of higher compression needed to post on web.
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Something is definitely wrong, I guess the PAAI guys may tell you. BTW, the light is pretty harsh, should have done some exposure compensation or gone completely manual.

ntomer · 14th June 2006, 17:46

I have done some PP on it, slightly increased the brightness using Levels, inreased contrast and saturation a bit using Curves and used Unsharp Mask for sharpening. Looks like I over-did things. Rudra Sir, your comments are needed.

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Rudra Sen · 14th June 2006, 19:05

You have gone real strong on Unsharp mask and contrast control.

Rehaan · 14th June 2006, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntomer

The noise, I guess, is because of higher compression needed to post on web.

Well the compression isn't even that agressive (its an 800+kb file), i guess the post processing is the issue as Rudra has mentioned...
Really awesome view though!

cya
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ntomer · 15th June 2006, 10:50

Here is the original image. Rudra Sir, please tell me what and how much PP is required?

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Rudra Sen · 15th June 2006, 11:50

Step 1. Used auto level. (ctrl/shift/L for PC/ apple/shift/L for Mac). This is however, not a must and won't work every time.

Step 2. Used curve tool (ctrl M for PC/ apple M for Mac). Pulled down the tone.

Step 3. Used selective colour tool (only green channel) to improve green.

Step 4. Used contrast tool (+2). Brightness is untouched.

Step 5. Duplicated layer. Added multiply... Cut opacity to 70%.

Step 6. Added layer mask. Used gradiant tool (foreground to transparent) from bottom to top.

Step 7. Used airbrush tool (pressure 10%) to bring back the lost details by wiping mask.

You can see the hills behind now. Greens look better. Sky has more depth.
But please remember, there are no fix process for improving images. Also, above steps are not only ways to follow.

khaadu75 · 15th June 2006, 12:13

Hey, I took the following pics on my recent trip to a remote place in Himachal recently ( details to follow in travelogues ).

the pics are taken from a similar angle but the difference was that one was taken in the evening and the next in the morning and I have no clue where the mist in the second pic came from as it ws a perfectly clear day ..lol !!! Rudra sir, maybe I'm turning into a pro as well ..hehe

This is the meadow in the same place ....

Let me know what you guys think !!

Cheers

ntomer · 15th June 2006, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

Step 6. Added layer mask. Used gradiant tool (foreground to transparent) from bottom to top.

Step 7. Used airbrush tool (pressure 10%) to bring back the lost details by wiping mask.

Thanx Rudra Sir; points 6 and 7 are beyond my PS knowledge, please guide e how to do those, I can't find the mentioned tools/options.

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Rudra Sen · 15th June 2006, 15:55

ntomer, what you're asking now is an elaborate process. I'll put this up ASAP. Need some time to write with pics support..

@ khaadu, nice pics.. Looking really good. Sigh, can't even stay there and do what I can do...

ntomer · 15th June 2006, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

ntomer, what you're asking now is an elaborate process. I'll put this up ASAP. Need some time to write with pics support..

@ khaadu, nice pics.. Looking really good. Sigh, can't even stay there and do what I can do...

I played a bit with PS and found the gradient tool, but coudn't figure out it's usage :-( Please suggest some good read on PS workflow.

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ntomer · 15th June 2006, 17:40

Another image from the same trip.

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Edmund · 18th June 2006, 01:53

A stunning coupla shots from my balcony, taken day before yesterday!!!

The thing that looks like a tornado is actually the shadow of a vertical cloud, you can also see the rain!!!!

No Zoom.................. 4x Optical................ 12x optical

Beatuiful, the colors that fill the sky!!!!

jkdas · 18th June 2006, 10:17

@ Edmund; nice one. framing should have been better. too much zoom ruins a pic ( see you have those telephone lines in teh alst pic, lights from houses in first pic). I think if you had got a bit more of teh house silhouette it would haev been better. Whers the guru now, when we need a comment

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p.s.: couldnt laod the second pix. link problem?

Rehaan · 19th June 2006, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntomer

Another image from the same trip.

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I like it a lot!

About the Nainital pic - its a lot harder to make it look good since the original has a definite haziness due to the weather...

cya
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Edmund · 21st June 2006, 06:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

@ Edmund; nice one. framing should have been better. too much zoom ruins a pic ( see you have those telephone lines in teh alst pic, lights from houses in first pic).

p.s.: couldnt laod the second pix. link problem?

Framing??? Please explain!!!!

The second pic is working man!!!

15th June 2006, 11:50	#456
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,095 Thanked: 5,446 Times View My Garage	Step 1. Used auto level. (ctrl/shift/L for PC/ apple/shift/L for Mac). This is however, not a must and won't work every time. Step 2. Used curve tool (ctrl M for PC/ apple M for Mac). Pulled down the tone. Step 3. Used selective colour tool (only green channel) to improve green. Step 4. Used contrast tool (+2). Brightness is untouched. Step 5. Duplicated layer. Added multiply... Cut opacity to 70%. Step 6. Added layer mask. Used gradiant tool (foreground to transparent) from bottom to top. Step 7. Used airbrush tool (pressure 10%) to bring back the lost details by wiping mask. You can see the hills behind now. Greens look better. Sky has more depth. But please remember, there are no fix process for improving images. Also, above steps are not only ways to follow. Last edited by Rudra Sen : 15th June 2006 at 12:41.

18th June 2006, 01:53	#462
Edmund BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stuttgart, Germany. Posts: 817 Thanked: 101 Times View My Garage	My balcony seat for the monsoon sunset!!! A stunning coupla shots from my balcony, taken day before yesterday!!! The thing that looks like a tornado is actually the shadow of a vertical cloud, you can also see the rain!!!! No Zoom.................. 4x Optical................ 12x optical Beatuiful, the colors that fill the sky!!!!

18th June 2006, 10:17	#463
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,684 Thanked: 1,471 Times View My Garage	@ Edmund; nice one. framing should have been better. too much zoom ruins a pic ( see you have those telephone lines in teh alst pic, lights from houses in first pic). I think if you had got a bit more of teh house silhouette it would haev been better. Whers the guru now, when we need a comment) p.s.: couldnt laod the second pix. link problem?

14th June 2006, 17:46	#452
ntomer BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 629 Thanked: 123 Times	I have done some PP on it, slightly increased the brightness using Levels, inreased contrast and saturation a bit using Curves and used Unsharp Mask for sharpening. Looks like I over-did things. Rudra Sir, your comments are needed. \N

14th June 2006, 19:05	#453
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,095 Thanked: 5,446 Times View My Garage	You have gone real strong on Unsharp mask and contrast control.

15th June 2006, 10:50	#455
ntomer BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 629 Thanked: 123 Times	Here is the original image. Rudra Sir, please tell me what and how much PP is required? \N

15th June 2006, 12:13	#457
khaadu75 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: same as the proposed venue for F1 ;-) Posts: 1,156 Thanked: 12 Times View My Garage	Hey, I took the following pics on my recent trip to a remote place in Himachal recently ( details to follow in travelogues ). the pics are taken from a similar angle but the difference was that one was taken in the evening and the next in the morning and I have no clue where the mist in the second pic came from as it ws a perfectly clear day ..lol !!! Rudra sir, maybe I'm turning into a pro as well ..hehe This is the meadow in the same place .... Let me know what you guys think !! Cheers

15th June 2006, 15:55	#459
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,095 Thanked: 5,446 Times View My Garage	ntomer, what you're asking now is an elaborate process. I'll put this up ASAP. Need some time to write with pics support.. @ khaadu, nice pics.. Looking really good. Sigh, can't even stay there and do what I can do...

15th June 2006, 17:40	#461
ntomer BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 629 Thanked: 123 Times	Another image from the same trip. \N

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