[Anindya_Anni]

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

And not sure if you got my point about mirrorless camera. They are very light weight. Sometimes, feel the light weightless is worth the premium.

I got your point sir, but mirrorless cameras are not in my budget.

I also suggest you keep a good lookout for sellers who swap original components of kits with their own components - particularly, the bags and memory cards.

That's why I'm not comfortable purchasing online. I'll purchase camera from one of Nikon's Experience Zone shops and I always make sure, be it any product, that the seal is broken infront of me.

Originally Posted by M35

Would you mind elaborating as to what 'idea' you wanted to convey though these images; especially the first four images?

I too didn't understand what idea sir was trying to convey.

Originally Posted by ani_meher

Do consider mirrorless cameras as well. The heavy weight DSLRs get quite tedious to carry around

As I already mentioned, my budget is upto 50k and the best I can buy in that range is either Nikon D3500 or D5600.

when you have iphone or pixel that can capture similar photos with far greater comfort.

I don't have either of them. I use LG Stylus 2 Plus and the photos captured with it look good only till point where one doesn't zoom in.

Unless you have specific needs like long zoom wild animals/birds photography or ultra wide angle photography

I'm a nature loving person and like to photograph birds, butterflies, wild animals, tiny insects and landscapes. Here in Aligarh, in every winter, we go to Shekha Jheel, a bird sanctuary. It feels so pleasing to watch thousands of migratory birds resting in the lake. I want to capture those birds.

The 7xxx series will have built in stabilizer, so cheaper lenses too can work fine on it. The swivel screen of D5xxx series comes in very handy.

As of now, I can't afford D7xxx series. Moreover, can you please throw some more light on the use of swivel screen.

With regards
Anindya

[ani_meher]

Originally Posted by Anindya_Anni

...As of now, I can't afford D7xxx series. Moreover, can you please throw some more light on the use of swivel screen....

Swivel screen is very useful. You can use it click photos in unusual angles, like keeping the camera on ground or rising over your head without doing any typical photographers gymnastic. I use it to click temple ceilings, as I can frame the shot in the swiveled out screen while camera is kept on the ground looking upwards.

Have you used a DSLR? If not, why not rent it for a day and see how you like it?

[M35]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

The 7xxx series will have built in stabilizer, so cheaper lenses too can work fine on it.

I am sure you meant ‘built in AF motor’ here. With D7xxx, you can auto-focus with cheaper AF-D lenses that don’t come with AF motors.

Originally Posted by Anindya_Anni

As of now, I can't afford D7xxx series. Moreover, can you please throw some more light on the use of swivel screen.

It would be handy if you want to frame those unique and creative perspectives/compositions. For those who know the compositions they want, such screens would be handy as one can’t look through the viewfinder from those weird angles – ground level/over the heads of crowds

Originally Posted by Anindya_Anni

I'm a nature loving person and like to photograph birds, butterflies, wild animals, tiny insects and landscapes. Here in Aligarh, in every winter, we go to Shekha Jheel, a bird sanctuary. It feels so pleasing to watch thousands of migratory birds resting in the lake. I want to capture those birds.
With regards
Anindya

Now you are talking about an expensive hobby! You will need three different lenses here- Tele, Macro, and wide-angle. First two (birds and insects) can be ‘managed’ with a good Tele though. There is one recent lens from Tamron which is 18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC HLD that should give you a one lens solution, but might get a bit beyond your budget; yet worth a look

[Thad E Ginathom]

I think he did mean stabiliser. If the lens has only manual focus, there's nothing the camera can do, but if it does not have stabilisation, the camera can.

I really really wish I'd saved up for another month or two to get my camera's elder brother with "IBIS." Now I am going to have to spend twice, and we all know what bad economics that is!

[M35]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I think he did mean stabiliser. If the lens has only manual focus, there's nothing the camera can do, but if it does not have stabilisation, the camera can.

Being no keyboard warrior, I feel a bit awkward having to bring this up here. Heard of AF-D line of lenses from Nikon? Stick one on to a D3xxx/D5xxx; no AF at all. Put the same lens on a D7xxx or higher, suddenly it becomes an autofocus lens.

I am yet to find a Nikon DSLR that come with in built image stabilisation; a reason why you get to see their VR lens line up!

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by M35

Being no keyboard warrior, I feel a bit awkward having to bring this up here. ...

Peace not (keyboard) war! I am very happy to be corrected . And even caught out not knowing what I am talking about. All good education

[BaCkSeAtDrIVeR]

Originally Posted by M35

Would you mind elaborating as to what 'idea' you wanted to convey through these images; especially the first four images?

Just trying to put images from the two lenses side by side, at various zooms. Also, had read in some review that the 70-300 us not up to Mark in low light and night. My experience shows otherwise.

The camera is at same position in first 2 pics. Only the focal lengths aka zoom levels vary.

[ani_meher]

Yep, I meant AF in D7xxx body, thanks for correcting M35. And thanks for understanding what I was trying to convey, Thad!

[nilanjanray]

Originally Posted by Anindya_Anni

As I already mentioned, my budget is upto 50k and the best I can buy in that range is either Nikon D3500 or D5600.

This is a great deal if you ask me. For your needs. Yes, reach is a little less, but one can do a lot with 450mm (equivalent). Longer focal lengths would go way beyond your budget. And 18-55 should take care of landscape.

https://www.amazon.in/Nikon-D5600-18...dp/B01N58T6KA/

Edit: get a good 64 GB SDXC card from Sandisk, e.g. Extreme Pro.

[sgiitk]

Is the camera dead?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGp3JXKtHBM

interesting thoughts

[Thad E Ginathom]

The consumer point and shoot is dead. When did anyone least see it being used!

The more serious camera is not yet dead, but it's in decline. What may be concerning there is rust if it ends up being only a professional tool, rust means small numbers, and that means high prices

[sgiitk]

@Thad; I tend to agree. limited market, at a high price. These things go hand in hand. As the price increases the sales further drop. This is a tough option.

Somehow I am reminded of the case of films when digital cameras came in. Remember in those days 3MP was considered good, and 4MP great. i got some one to get me one from the US. Today 20MP is the norm, what for I do now know. To get an excellent A4 printout you need less than 4MP.

I for one will hate to lose the DSLR option, but if wishes were horses ....

[Jeroen]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

@Thad; I tend to agree. limited market, at a high price. These things go hand in hand. As the price increases the sales further drop. This is a tough option.
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Number of cameras being sold has been steadily dropping for some time. I-am not sure that has lead to an increased sales price perse. My impression is that most manufacturers are still trying to get the most out of a new model no matter what.

Some claim the market is already consolidated with three brands taking 50% of the global market. I look at it differently. I would call a market consolidated if three parties have well over 90-95% of the market.

Yes, the point and shoot camera is just about dead, but the war between mirror less and DSLR is still raging. Once there is no clear differentiation to these further optimization in R&D, products etc and ultimately further consolidation is likely if not necessarily.

These are expensive high volume product, creating a lot of top-line for Manufacturers. Obviously, they need to earn some money and get a decent return on their investment.

Compare it to the world of mobile phones and how that has developed over the last couple of decades and we would still have a long time to go.

So I am fairly optimistic that we are likely to see new kit coming out for some time and that the unit prices, apart from the initial introduction price, is not necessarily going up.

But then again, if I could predict the future I would not be on somebody else's payroll. Also, i am not helping this industry as I buy a camera and use it till it can not be repaired anymore. I have yet to own a DSLR! 😜

Jeroen

[Jeroen]

Just came across this, some sobering thoughts
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/n...-84-since-2010

[am1m]

Originally Posted by Jeroen

Just came across this, some sobering thoughts
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/n...-84-since-2010

To be expected I guess. Speaking from personal experience, I used to be a very enthusiastic amateur photographer till about 3 years ago. Bought some gear including a couple of very decent lenses.

Truth be told, a lot of the photos I used the DSLR for didn't really warrant that sort of gear (apart from the wildlife shots that required a telephoto). And looking at the thousands of shots people take and post online, there's nothing really special about the vast majority of them that warrants such expensive gear (most of my pics included). I've stopped carrying my camera around, the phone does most of the job.