AMD 2500, 64 BIT, Bhpians i need your help

devarshi84 · 24th July 2006, 12:33

Did any1 ever take boot time from the Bios test? I never heard so.

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2341

has a slower amd 3200 coupled with 4200hdd (I have 5400) and 1gig ram (he has 768)

"Boot time is about 90 seconds or more with all of the included software, but I have reduced this to about 30 after a fresh reinstall of the operating system. This is with a 4,200 RPM hard drive. A faster drive with a bigger cache and more RAM especially would certainly produce better results"

"it took a solid four hours to get the battery drained"

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2553

"It doesn't take too long to go from boot to windows. I timed about 18 seconds"(He usually puts his notebook on hibernation but is mentioning the boot time)

The battery is okay and lasts about 2 hours and 30 minutes with next to no usage (He is using 8-cell)

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2506

The included 8-cell battery works well if you just move your laptop around the house.The battery power lasted for 2 hours, 21 minutes, and 43 seconds with wi-fi on.

low_bass_makker · 24th July 2006, 12:57

Ok if it is that short then I have never hered of this type of boot up time....cheers to devarshi .............lol

Digital Vampire · 24th July 2006, 13:12

12 second is fast...I guess you dont have much in the startup menu.
My centrino with 1 Gig Ram and 5400 RPM HDD is taking more than 40 seconds to load all the drivers and startup utilities (Outpost Firewall, Avast Antivirus, PeerGuardian, ATI Cpanel, DU Meter...)

BTW.. there is a sweet little utility called BootWiz from M$ which can analyse and improve your boot time.

http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootvis.php

devarshi84 · 24th July 2006, 19:31

As I said, there are people who have boot time of 7-8 secs.

BUSA · 24th July 2006, 23:32

Does any one have a idea how much does a GeForceFX 5200 (128MB) costs? I am asking this so i get the right price from the dealer. Please throw some light guys.

tsk1979 · 25th July 2006, 00:01

BUSA, when you go part shopping in the grey market(even with bill and warranty) if you assume there is a correct price you are setting yourself up to get cheated.
Always go to multiple shops.
When I assembled my system i hunted 10 shops on SP road in bangalore before finding the best buy.
Second rule of thumb is that most good dealers(you can usually detect them by the huge rush at their shops) will overquote by around 5-10%, so 5% bargain is definately possible.
Also if you have a friend who owns a small office and buys lots of parts take him along. One glare from him can make prices fall from heavenly lofts to the depths of hell. I did this once, and I got a 20% off on the motherboard price(price charged to other customers).
And no matter how much you save(its actually 10%) always get a bill and warranty.

yogi1771 · 25th July 2006, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Does any one have a idea how much does a GeForceFX 5200 (128MB) costs? I am asking this so i get the right price from the dealer. Please throw some light guys.

bye the way why the hell r u going for this card its way beyond its time

devarshi84 · 25th July 2006, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Does any one have a idea how much does a GeForceFX 5200 (128MB) costs? I am asking this so i get the right price from the dealer. Please throw some light guys.

a 2 generation old car that wont even play the basic game. why doyou want that car? even if its a 5600 You can think about it. But 5200 is a lame weakling.

better look at nvidia 6400
nvidia 6600
nvidia 7400

BUSA · 25th July 2006, 11:59

Thanx guys for your inputs. I am just curios to know how much does these cards cost so i will come to know is my dealer bluffing or not. Someone please give me the costs of

5200, 6400, 6600 & 7400!

BUSA · 26th July 2006, 13:36

My dealer tells me that FX 5200 is the max my system can support which i doubt. Is it true my system has 512 MB RAM, AND 2500+ AMD processor running at 1.4GHz. Guys some input please on the prices and the max support my system can take from AGP.

yogi1771 · 26th July 2006, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

My dealer tells me that FX 5200 is the max my system can support which i doubt. Is it true my system has 512 MB RAM, AND 2500+ AMD processor running at 1.4GHz. Guys some input please on the prices and the max support my system can take from AGP.

thats crap he is talking there may be a bottleneck due to the processor bye the increase ur ram to 1gb

BUSA · 26th July 2006, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogi1771

thats crap he is talking there may be a bottleneck due to the processor bye the increase ur ram to 1gb

Thanx any idea of the prices, so that means my processor can take NVidia GE Force 5600 and more, but do i need to up my Ram to 1 GB?

tsk1979 · 26th July 2006, 19:13

Depends on your motherboard AGP bus. Check the motherboard manual.
Its got hardly anything to do with your RAM or processor.
For example a motherboard which can take only 4X AGP cards, fitting a real high end graphics card wont help.
So if the graphics card is 8X and motherboard is 8X that will be the bottleneck.
Usually ASUS and other high quality motherboards dont suffers from such issues.
VIA chipset is usually a good bet

BUSA · 26th July 2006, 23:11

Thanx TSK, the motherboard says upto AGP 8X so what is the max can it take?? Also some one knowing the prices please post them.

devarshi84 · 27th July 2006, 00:06

forget the grapics at the moment.

The firt priority for you is to change your dealer.

Search for a better guy.

I dont understand how a 5200 AGP can fit and a 6200-6400 can't.

5200 is 8x and so is 6200-6400.

http://www.nvidia.com/page/pg_20030305290921.html

http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_6200.html

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24th July 2006, 12:33	#31
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	Did any1 ever take boot time from the Bios test? I never heard so. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2341 has a slower amd 3200 coupled with 4200hdd (I have 5400) and 1gig ram (he has 768) "Boot time is about 90 seconds or more with all of the included software, but I have reduced this to about 30 after a fresh reinstall of the operating system. This is with a 4,200 RPM hard drive. A faster drive with a bigger cache and more RAM especially would certainly produce better results" "it took a solid four hours to get the battery drained" http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2553 "It doesn't take too long to go from boot to windows. I timed about 18 seconds"(He usually puts his notebook on hibernation but is mentioning the boot time) The battery is okay and lasts about 2 hours and 30 minutes with next to no usage (He is using 8-cell) http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2506 The included 8-cell battery works well if you just move your laptop around the house.The battery power lasted for 2 hours, 21 minutes, and 43 seconds with wi-fi on. Last edited by aah78 : 25th July 2006 at 02:15.
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24th July 2006, 12:57	#32
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Ok if it is that short then I have never hered of this type of boot up time....cheers to devarshi .............lol
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24th July 2006, 13:12	#33
Digital Vampire BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Utopia! Posts: 595 Thanked: 105 Times	12 second is fast...I guess you dont have much in the startup menu. My centrino with 1 Gig Ram and 5400 RPM HDD is taking more than 40 seconds to load all the drivers and startup utilities (Outpost Firewall, Avast Antivirus, PeerGuardian, ATI Cpanel, DU Meter...) BTW.. there is a sweet little utility called BootWiz from M$ which can analyse and improve your boot time. http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootvis.php
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24th July 2006, 19:31	#34
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	As I said, there are people who have boot time of 7-8 secs.
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24th July 2006, 23:32	#35
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Does any one have a idea how much does a GeForceFX 5200 (128MB) costs? I am asking this so i get the right price from the dealer. Please throw some light guys.
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25th July 2006, 00:01	#36
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	BUSA, when you go part shopping in the grey market(even with bill and warranty) if you assume there is a correct price you are setting yourself up to get cheated. Always go to multiple shops. When I assembled my system i hunted 10 shops on SP road in bangalore before finding the best buy. Second rule of thumb is that most good dealers(you can usually detect them by the huge rush at their shops) will overquote by around 5-10%, so 5% bargain is definately possible. Also if you have a friend who owns a small office and buys lots of parts take him along. One glare from him can make prices fall from heavenly lofts to the depths of hell. I did this once, and I got a 20% off on the motherboard price(price charged to other customers). And no matter how much you save(its actually 10%) always get a bill and warranty.
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25th July 2006, 11:59	#39
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Thanx guys for your inputs. I am just curios to know how much does these cards cost so i will come to know is my dealer bluffing or not. Someone please give me the costs of 5200, 6400, 6600 & 7400!
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26th July 2006, 13:36	#40
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	My dealer tells me that FX 5200 is the max my system can support which i doubt. Is it true my system has 512 MB RAM, AND 2500+ AMD processor running at 1.4GHz. Guys some input please on the prices and the max support my system can take from AGP.
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26th July 2006, 19:13	#43
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Depends on your motherboard AGP bus. Check the motherboard manual. Its got hardly anything to do with your RAM or processor. For example a motherboard which can take only 4X AGP cards, fitting a real high end graphics card wont help. So if the graphics card is 8X and motherboard is 8X that will be the bottleneck. Usually ASUS and other high quality motherboards dont suffers from such issues. VIA chipset is usually a good bet Last edited by tsk1979 : 26th July 2006 at 19:15.
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26th July 2006, 23:11	#44
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Thanx TSK, the motherboard says upto AGP 8X so what is the max can it take?? Also some one knowing the prices please post them.
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27th July 2006, 00:06	#45
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	forget the grapics at the moment. The firt priority for you is to change your dealer. Search for a better guy. I dont understand how a 5200 AGP can fit and a 6200-6400 can't. 5200 is 8x and so is 6200-6400. http://www.nvidia.com/page/pg_20030305290921.html http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_6200.html
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