[Aroy]

Originally Posted by Safety is Param

Good afternoon. Looking for a 32 " monitor (desktop computing as well as Amazon Fire TV stick)

Have shortlisted these 2 models -

LG 32MN58HM

1 VGA port, 2 HDMI ports, 1 USB port, 1 Audio-in and 1 headphone jack

Dell 3218HN

1 HDMI, 1 VGA port

Both are 1080p, can be wall mounted if needed.

............
Thanks in advance.

1080p (2K) on a 32" monitor is not worth it. 1080p is best till 24" monitors, bigger ones especially 32" will benefit with 4K.

So either get a 23"/24" 1080p monitor, or search for 3k or 4k bigger monitor.

https://www.amazon.in/Acer-EB321HQU-...s%2C285&sr=8-8

https://www.amazon.in/Acer-ET322QK-B...%2C285&sr=8-19

[Rohit_Quad]

Originally Posted by Safety is Param

Good Evening.

1) Is it worth investing 6k on this system towards SSD? -
Yes, very much. The system snappiness will amaze you. Get a sata 400gb+ ssd and make sure you use it only for windows and softwares and try not filling it up more than 50~60% in the long run. You are good to go. I have been using this ssd in my office laptop since 2 years and is working flawlessly. https://www.amazon.in/dp/B079T8BZMG/ref=twister_B07V4KWTFG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Also, i would not risk an nvme drive on your mother board due to PCI-Ex 2.0, as most of them are 'Interface - PCIe G3 1x4 / NVMe'
2) What internal 2 TB should I go for?
I was in a similar boat last week and got a Segate St2000dm008 - 256mb cache and 7200 rpm
https://mdcomputers.in/seagate-2tb-b...2000dm008.html

[Rohit_Quad]

Guys, suggest me few UPS options to support my PC, i should be able to save and shut down the system, even on full load, if the power goes off.

The build - Ryzen 9 3900x, X570 Mobo, 64gb DDR4 3200, 500gb NVMe, 2Tb HDD, RTX 2080ti (might add a second one in future), 6 case fans and water cooling (pump+fan). The wattage calculator shows around 600watt for this build with one RTX 2080ti.

So what should i look for in a UPS, to support this present build?

[SLK]

Originally Posted by Rohit_Quad

So what should i look for in a UPS, to support this present build?

This might do the trick - just to give you time to shut down with ease.
https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX1100C-11...1767384&sr=8-1


This should give you slightly more time to shut down!
https://www.amazon.in/APC-SRC1KI-1KV...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by SLK

I have the same processor, you are right its 8 physical cores. What I remembered was 4FPU, which make at a disadvantage in utilizing 8 cores. https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...ogical)%20core.

Also, I checked for my own motherboard, it doesn't support booting from a NVME SSD because its old! - yours might not too and then you'll have to stick to a traditional SSD.

Nope it doesn't. AMD settled a lawsuit about this recently and gave FX owners in the US a 50$ check.

What it has is 4 modules. Each module has two integer cores and one fp core. So it can issue 8 int instructions per clock but only 4 FP instructions per clock. However due to deep pipelining to achieve high clocks, its IPC is extremely poor.

If you have an FX chip, its best to dump it and move on to the AM4 platform and get a Ryzen. Even an entry level Ryzen 3100 will run circles around an FX chip.

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by Rohit_Quad

[i]1)
2) What internal 2 TB should I go for?
I was in a similar boat last week and got a Segate St2000dm008 - 256mb cache and 7200 rpm
https://mdcomputers.in/seagate-2tb-b...2000dm008.html

This is an SMR drive and really slow. Avoid those like plague. They are not meant for desktop data storage rather for data archival. If you see 256MB cache in a hard drive, run away as far as you can as they use SMR.

https://www.techradar.com/in/news/we...mr-hard-drives

Same thing is gonna happen to Seagate as well soon.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/1...sktop-hdd-smr/

[AnandB]

I'm one of those burned by this. I bought the Seagate 2TB ST2000DM008 assuming with its 256mb cache it was faster than the regular one.

[Rohit_Quad]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

This is an SMR drive and really slow. Avoid those like plague. They are not meant for desktop data storage rather for data archival. If you see 256MB cache in a hard drive, run away as far as you can as they use SMR.

https://www.techradar.com/in/news/we...mr-hard-drives

Same thing is gonna happen to Seagate as well soon.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/1...sktop-hdd-smr/

What about the Segate St2000dm005 - 5400rpm and 256mb cache?
This model is not present in the list, from the article in the second link.

[Rohit_Quad]

Originally Posted by SLK

This might do the trick - just to give you time to shut down with ease.
https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX1100C-11...1767384&sr=8-1

I am inclined towards the model in the above link. There is an optional stabilizer as well, as a combo. Do you think that is required?
https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX1100C-1100VA-230V-Back/dp/B07XJP19W4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=backups%2B1100&qid=15 91767384&sr=8-1&th=1

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

This is an SMR drive and really slow. Avoid those like plague. They are not meant for desktop data storage rather for data archival. If you see 256MB cache in a hard drive, run away as far as you can as they use SMR.

https://www.techradar.com/in/news/we...mr-hard-drives

Same thing is gonna happen to Seagate as well soon.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/1...sktop-hdd-smr/

The the higher(256MB) cache a single factor to identify SMR drives?

What should be the cache range for non SMR drives suitable for desktop data storage?

[Rohit_Quad]

Got the SMR drives list - https://www.ixsystems.com/community/...mr-drives.141/

This 2tb internal hdd, with 64mb cache is not in the list - https://www.amazon.in/Seagate-ST2000DM006-Barracuda-Cache-Desktop/dp/B07HKCD2KX/ref=sr_1_6?crid=5SSKFNLGCVNM&dchild=1&keywords=2tb +internal+hard+drive&qid=1591775770&sprefix=2tb+%2 Caps%2C321&sr=8-6

For reference - https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topi...please-help-me

[AnandB]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

The the higher(256MB) cache a single factor to identify SMR drives?

What should be the cache range for non SMR drives suitable for desktop data storage?

The 64mb ones should be non-smr.

Do wonder can we contact the manufacturer for replacing the hard drive which was wrongly bought?

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

The the higher(256MB) cache a single factor to identify SMR drives?

What should be the cache range for non SMR drives suitable for desktop data storage?

Pretty much yes. All 256meg cache drives that I've come across have been SMR.

[SLK]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

If you have an FX chip, its best to dump it and move on to the AM4 platform and get a Ryzen. Even an entry level Ryzen 3100 will run circles around an FX chip.

Honestly the multi-core performance on the FX 8350 isn't bad at all. Faster than many Ryzens (current gen laptop processors at least) considering its 6+ years old!

Originally Posted by Aroy

1080p (2K) on a 32" monitor is not worth it. 1080p is best till 24" monitors, bigger ones especially 32" will benefit with 4K.

So either get a 23"/24" 1080p monitor, or search for 3k or 4k bigger monitor.

https://www.amazon.in/Acer-EB321HQU-...s%2C285&sr=8-8

https://www.amazon.in/Acer-ET322QK-B...%2C285&sr=8-19

Thats not correct! 1080 is not 2k, and running more than 2k on a 32 inch monitor will require scaling (zooming). I have that ACER 32 inch 2k (2560x1440), its absolutely apt resolution for the size, better than even a 24 with HD.

Originally Posted by Rohit_Quad

I am inclined towards the model in the above link. There is an optional stabilizer as well, as a combo. Do you think that is required?
https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX1100C-1100VA-230V-Back/dp/B07XJP19W4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=backups%2B1100&qid=15 91767384&sr=8-1&th=1

No, not required. This already has an AVR, see https://www.apc.com/shop/in/en/produ...a/P-BX1100C-IN

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by SLK

Honestly the multi-core performance on the FX 8350 isn't bad at all. Faster than many Ryzens (current gen laptop processors at least) considering its 6+ years old!

Beg to disagree - even the cheapest and slowest ryzen ever - the 1200 pounds the 8350 into submission:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQv75m-biF4

Even in productivity, a 1200 is faster in single core and almost at par in multicore:

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-amd_ryzen_3_1200-713
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-amd_fx_8350-7

This is inspite of the 1200 having only 4c4t instead of 4c8t for bulldozer.

Also the 1200 does this at 65W vs 125W for the 8350.

Let us not even go to the new 99$ CPU the Ryzen 3100 which is the replacement of the 1200 and is in a completely different performance category.