The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

greatmana2000 · 28th January 2008, 20:39

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Originally Posted by ST7677

Go for Sony 40" D series, the MRP is 98k. There was a 22 k price cut last week so it is an excellent buy at this point.

Though Sony and Samsung have the same panel, I would not recommend Samsung R18 for daily viewing due to the poor picture processing of Samsung. It's good only for movies & HD not for daily standard def signal. Try watching a cricket match on not so clean signal for about 10 mins and your head will start feeling heavy...

We are taking about LCD TVs here. Don;t know about earlier, but since last year or so, all Sony TVs use their own panel, from their partnership firm with Samsung.

I was just trying to point out,do not believe in the brands ,believe in what you see rather . test the tvs ,play dvds ,movies ,cable before you actually sign the dotted lines .

ST7677 · 29th January 2008, 09:31

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ST7677 Is it true there was a price cut for sony KLV-40W300A is 20k .i asked my dealer he refused it and said there was price cut some other models only

My Bad, there is no price cut on 40W...

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Originally Posted by st7677

From what I remember seeing...
26S - 5k cut
32S - 5 k cut
32V - no cut
32D - no cut
40V - 5k cut
40D - 22 k cut
40W - 20 k cut
Pricey X series - no cut

Correction there is no price cut on 40W, it is on 46X by 20k...

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I was just trying to point out,do not believe in the brands ,believe in what you see rather . test the tvs ,play dvds ,movies ,cable before you actually sign the dotted lines .

I completely agree with you

saintsinner · 3rd February 2008, 23:33

i am looking for a 32" LCD. budget is 40K, can strech a bit, but would prefer not to do so. viewing distance is about 10 to 12 feet. Would pefer Sony or LG
the main purpose of this LCD would be to watch TV, and to be connected to my PC, i'll get rid of the 17" LCD Monitor.

What are the connection options i have from the PC to the LCD,
S-Video - Not happy with picture quality
VGA - Never tried.
HDMI - Never tried.

Would i need a better VGA card on my PC for VGA or HDMI display to the LCD? i know i would need to a card with HDMI out to use HDMI.
But what is the difference betwen VGA IN and HDMI IN? how does the quality differ?
The distance between the LCD and PC would not be more than 2 meters.
Thanks guys, waiting for your response.

ST7677 · 4th February 2008, 01:02

When is 2008 Panasonic Plasma line up expected to be launched in India?

ScarySkulls · 4th February 2008, 13:15

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Originally Posted by saintsinner

i am looking for a 32" LCD. budget is 40K, can strech a bit, but would prefer not to do so. viewing distance is about 10 to 12 feet. Would pefer Sony or LG
the main purpose of this LCD would be to watch TV, and to be connected to my PC, i'll get rid of the 17" LCD Monitor

You know where to get Sharp or Toshiba in Delhi. Right? call the dealers/Visit them personally and check which ones give you the best bang for the buck.
Both brands are excellent so it boils down to features and VFM end of the day.

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Originally Posted by saintsinner

What are the connection options i have from the PC to the LCD,
S-Video - Not happy with picture quality
VGA - Never tried.
HDMI - Never tried.

A good geforce or Raedon card will serve you well. Get whatever the latest series you can at a price point that seems good VFM to you.

saintsinner · 4th February 2008, 16:36

anybody using a Sharp/Toshiba/Hitachi LCD here?
reviews and pricing for a 32" please

i'll not be able to go see a dealer for sometime.

shuvc · 4th February 2008, 17:10

Sharp 32 was being quoted at around 41K here in Kolkata. Did not ask the model number.

Most 32" LCDs are around that price point.

Saw a 'high-end' Philips for around 47K. Again did not enquire about the model number.

How much does the Pearl Black LG 32 cost?

dilipkumar7278 · 10th February 2008, 00:50

Hi
I would like to buy 40in LCD TV and would like to know which is best? I have enquired about Samsung Bordeaux art LA40R81B for 81000 inr, LG 42LC7R FOR 77000INR AND PHILIPS 42PFL7432 for INR 79990.Can anyone suggest any other good options for me? Among these which is the better option? Philips has full HD capability. I have to pay advance amount on monday///Please reply asap... Also is there ay possibility of further reduction of prices?
Regards
Dilip

kaushik_s · 10th February 2008, 01:10

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Originally Posted by shuvc

Saw a 'high-end' Philips for around 47K. Again did not enquire about the model number.

The High end (if you can call it so) now costs 42.5k now. I checked it up in Philips Arena Jayanagar.E-zone (koramangala) is asking for 42.9k for the same model.The model no is 32PFL7422. I somehow liked the picture quality when on HDMI or component input.But as usual the cable link sucked and Tata Sky was also not very good.But they told me that Tata sky signal at home will be lil' better as they are splitting the signal to connect to different TV's.Don't if that's right.
They also told me that another 32" philips model with 3 HDMI input is coming to the market but they were not sure what price and exactly when(model is 7622 I think).
Also seen the 100hz Panasonic model 32LX700 @e-zone.It was good but I was unable see the advantage of 100hz when I compared the philips and the panasonic.At least they looked similar to my untrained eyes.price was 60k :-(
Also saw the Samsung LA32R8(@Viveks,JP Nagar), didn't impressed me much.I found the colors bit too unnatural, may be the settings was not correct as I've heard good reviews about this model.Will need to check out in some other place.Price quoted 49k.
Considering the price point I'm thinking about Philips.I already have a philips CRT and I really liked it and never had any troubles for last 7 years until now.
Anyone having the aforementioned philips LCD please comment.I'll mostly be using the TV for watching movies from DVD and for my room 32" is enough I think.
Regards,
Kaushik

Vid6639 · 10th February 2008, 01:15

100Hz difference will only be noticeable in fast moving scenes like a football match panning scene.

Philips current crop ain't that great and if you want philips you shoudl wait for a few months till this range is available.

Consumer Electronics Show 2008 - CNET Asia

These have the best picture processing engine available in the market and will revolutionise the LCD TV segment in terms of picture quality.

kaushik_s · 10th February 2008, 17:19

But Vid, all that you've mentioned are in 42" and up, not in 32". And the 32PFL7622 will also come with DNM.But that'll also take an month or two.

Vid6639 · 10th February 2008, 17:51

oops, Sorry about that kaushik, got a bit carried away with the Philips models. lol.

I mentioned earlier that in 32" there are 2 100Hz models, the panasonic 32LX700 and the Sony Bravia 32D300A. The D300 will soon be replaced by the D350 and will no longer be available in 32". The D350 will be a full HD panel but will lose the 100HZ motion flow processor.

dilipkumar7278 · 10th February 2008, 23:29

Hi
I would like to buy 40in LCD TV and would like to know which is best? I have enquired about Samsung Bordeaux art LA40R81B for 81000 inr, LG 42LC7R FOR 77000INR AND PHILIPS 42PFL7432 for INR 79990.Can anyone suggest any other good options for me? Among these which is the better option? Philips has full HD capability. I have to pay advance amount on monday///Please reply asap... Also is there ay possibility of further reduction of prices?
Regards
Dilip

Anyone there????????????

ST7677 · 11th February 2008, 12:22

Lately after comparing lot of LCDs and Plasma in home environment (my friends residences), my buying preference is moving from LCD towards Plasma technology...
Reasons:
1. LCDs strength is showing static / slow moving pictures, not the fast moving scenes. I have scene all the latest technologies like 100 Hz/5ms, etc, but Plasma still holds the ground by couple of years on this front.

2. Perceived resolution - Moving picture resolution. (usually the screen resolution is measured for static image / no of pixels), however for moving picture (movies) resolution means that how many pixels the TV can display clearly.
For a footpace (speed) moving scene (image moving across at 5secs). A 720 lines native resolution becomes
A Plasma display shows 700 lines
An LCD displayes 300 lines
120 Hz LCD Displays 600 lines

As the image speed increases, the LCD moving picture resolution significantly deteriorates due to motion blur.

3. Contrast Ratio - most of the contrast is measured with full brightness, however we actually watch in low lit homes (as compared to showrooms), for this brightness should be reduced. This leads to further reduction in already low contrast ratio of LCD. This is to the extent that on some latest TVs you get negative image like feeling in dark areas.

Sorry to kick this LCD vs Plasma debate earlier, but after actually viewing the sets, I am getting converted from LCD lobby to Plasma lobby and thought I should share my experience with others...

mobike008 · 11th February 2008, 12:31

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Originally Posted by dilipkumar7278

Hi
I would like to buy 40in LCD TV and would like to know which is best? I have enquired about Samsung Bordeaux art LA40R81B for 81000 inr, LG 42LC7R FOR 77000INR AND PHILIPS 42PFL7432 for INR 79990.Can anyone suggest any other good options for me? Among these which is the better option? Philips has full HD capability. I have to pay advance amount on monday///Please reply asap... Also is there ay possibility of further reduction of prices?
Regards
Dilip

Anyone there????????????

I got the same samsung model R81B for 80K-2.5K ( through a scheme) during Diwali. I think its price should be same or lower now, so you can haggle up to 77.5K. I am thoroughly enjoying this TV

3rd February 2008, 23:33	#798
saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	i am looking for a 32" LCD. budget is 40K, can strech a bit, but would prefer not to do so. viewing distance is about 10 to 12 feet. Would pefer Sony or LG the main purpose of this LCD would be to watch TV, and to be connected to my PC, i'll get rid of the 17" LCD Monitor. What are the connection options i have from the PC to the LCD, S-Video - Not happy with picture quality VGA - Never tried. HDMI - Never tried. Would i need a better VGA card on my PC for VGA or HDMI display to the LCD? i know i would need to a card with HDMI out to use HDMI. But what is the difference betwen VGA IN and HDMI IN? how does the quality differ? The distance between the LCD and PC would not be more than 2 meters. Thanks guys, waiting for your response.
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4th February 2008, 01:02	#799
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	When is 2008 Panasonic Plasma line up expected to be launched in India?
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4th February 2008, 16:36	#801
saintsinner BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 612 Thanked: 11 Times	anybody using a Sharp/Toshiba/Hitachi LCD here? reviews and pricing for a 32" please i'll not be able to go see a dealer for sometime.
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4th February 2008, 17:10	#802
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	Sharp 32 was being quoted at around 41K here in Kolkata. Did not ask the model number. Most 32" LCDs are around that price point. Saw a 'high-end' Philips for around 47K. Again did not enquire about the model number. How much does the Pearl Black LG 32 cost?
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10th February 2008, 00:50	#803
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	40 inch LCD Hi I would like to buy 40in LCD TV and would like to know which is best? I have enquired about Samsung Bordeaux art LA40R81B for 81000 inr, LG 42LC7R FOR 77000INR AND PHILIPS 42PFL7432 for INR 79990.Can anyone suggest any other good options for me? Among these which is the better option? Philips has full HD capability. I have to pay advance amount on monday///Please reply asap... Also is there ay possibility of further reduction of prices? Regards Dilip
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10th February 2008, 01:15	#805
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	100Hz difference will only be noticeable in fast moving scenes like a football match panning scene. Philips current crop ain't that great and if you want philips you shoudl wait for a few months till this range is available. Consumer Electronics Show 2008 - CNET Asia These have the best picture processing engine available in the market and will revolutionise the LCD TV segment in terms of picture quality.
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10th February 2008, 17:19	#806
kaushik_s Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,088 Thanked: 164 Times View My Garage	But Vid, all that you've mentioned are in 42" and up, not in 32". And the 32PFL7622 will also come with DNM.But that'll also take an month or two.
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10th February 2008, 17:51	#807
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	oops, Sorry about that kaushik, got a bit carried away with the Philips models. lol. I mentioned earlier that in 32" there are 2 100Hz models, the panasonic 32LX700 and the Sony Bravia 32D300A. The D300 will soon be replaced by the D350 and will no longer be available in 32". The D350 will be a full HD panel but will lose the 100HZ motion flow processor.
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10th February 2008, 23:29	#808
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Hi I would like to buy 40in LCD TV and would like to know which is best? I have enquired about Samsung Bordeaux art LA40R81B for 81000 inr, LG 42LC7R FOR 77000INR AND PHILIPS 42PFL7432 for INR 79990.Can anyone suggest any other good options for me? Among these which is the better option? Philips has full HD capability. I have to pay advance amount on monday///Please reply asap... Also is there ay possibility of further reduction of prices? Regards Dilip Anyone there????????????
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11th February 2008, 12:22	#809
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	Lately after comparing lot of LCDs and Plasma in home environment (my friends residences), my buying preference is moving from LCD towards Plasma technology... Reasons: 1. LCDs strength is showing static / slow moving pictures, not the fast moving scenes. I have scene all the latest technologies like 100 Hz/5ms, etc, but Plasma still holds the ground by couple of years on this front. 2. Perceived resolution - Moving picture resolution. (usually the screen resolution is measured for static image / no of pixels), however for moving picture (movies) resolution means that how many pixels the TV can display clearly. For a footpace (speed) moving scene (image moving across at 5secs). A 720 lines native resolution becomes A Plasma display shows 700 lines An LCD displayes 300 lines 120 Hz LCD Displays 600 lines As the image speed increases, the LCD moving picture resolution significantly deteriorates due to motion blur. 3. Contrast Ratio - most of the contrast is measured with full brightness, however we actually watch in low lit homes (as compared to showrooms), for this brightness should be reduced. This leads to further reduction in already low contrast ratio of LCD. This is to the extent that on some latest TVs you get negative image like feeling in dark areas. Sorry to kick this LCD vs Plasma debate earlier, but after actually viewing the sets, I am getting converted from LCD lobby to Plasma lobby and thought I should share my experience with others...
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