The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

dilipkumar7278 · 22nd April 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by shuvc

A LG sales guy once mentioned that Plasma panels are physically more durable than LCD panels. The example he gave was, a naughty kid with a pen/sharp object could more easily damage a LCD screen than a Plasma. Any truth in this?

The sales guy at Panasonic shop did show me a demo video regarding this. Two small metal globes are suspended about 3 to 4 feet high and released on to both Plasma and LCD screen. The LCD screen was cracked but the plasma shows no problem.

dilipkumar7278 · 22nd April 2008, 12:17

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Originally Posted by dilipkumar7278

ROC
Do you or anyone have any idea when the PV80 will come...I sold my Samsung 29 CRT one week back for buying PV70.But now I am in two minds.If its coming soon I will wait for it...but how long is the question...
Also the PV80 will definitely be priced higher may be 1L or more.I may not be able to afford that much...

Cheers

Anyone here knows about the launch of PV80 series...Pls Pls......

cheers

reignofchaos · 22nd April 2008, 12:45

Most probably next month but can't say for sure. It should come before olympics.

appuchan · 22nd April 2008, 15:14

Hope Beijing Olympics will prod TV makers to give some good, deep discounts. I am looking for a second TV in the 32-40' range.

ST7677 · 23rd April 2008, 01:51

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Originally Posted by vid6639

It was hogwash a long time back. Like I said the new range expected to eb launched Q3 this year will change that.

Long time back? I still see motion blur taking it's toll on almost all LCD tvs. If it's not launched yet, it can;t be long time back!

Well anyway if it is back by picture quality and technical data I am willing to change my stand. After all I am yet to buy a flat panel TV, so far my research shows Plasmas lead.
But you have been dropping such hints from last one year and I haven;t seen much out in market. What's up?

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Sadly I don't work for any LCD TV mfg.

I thought you mentioned that watching skin color tones is part of your job. That made me think. BTW What job you are in

Vid6639 · 24th April 2008, 00:04

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Originally Posted by ST7677

Well anyway if it is back by picture quality and technical data I am willing to change my stand. After all I am yet to buy a flat panel TV, so far my research shows Plasmas lead.
But you have been dropping such hints from last one year and I haven;t seen much out in market. What's up?

Like I said you'll have to wait for the new series to come out a month or 2 before the Beijing olympics.

vnabhi · 24th April 2008, 11:30

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

They use the same panel AFAIK. Picture quality is identical. The PV7 has a single HDMI input, doesn't have the 1080p scaling, comes in a cheaper shell and is made in China. The PV70 is made in singapore. That is the only difference.

Guys, pardon my ignorance, but what difference does a double HDMI input make with a single? Further, what will we lose if we don't have 1080p scaling?
I enquired yesterday and found that the cheaper one is 66 K and the other is 78 K.
Which one should I go for, given that both are 42" Panasonic plasmas.

mav2000 · 24th April 2008, 14:31

Hi,

2 HDMI's make sense if you plan to have more than one input, like a HD DVD and a playstation or a blueray player or whatever supports HDMI. Also 1080p scaling probably makes little sense. its ok to go for a lower model, as I am guessing that "scaling" means not Full HD.Anyway we do not have much HD content in India as of now and I dont see too much coming anytime soon.

flipsyde · 24th April 2008, 15:10

i don't know how it works in most homes but TV's at my place are usually bought to last at least 8 years!! so anyone who works on a similar game plan should definitely shell out more and go for the full HD models.

that said i have been checking out tellys at the local store.......i don't understand what you guys are on about LCD vs. Plasma!! when it comes to motion picture quality LCD don;t deliver!!

the only plasma related issue that i can recollect are bulb replacements and burn in issues.

anuragn · 24th April 2008, 15:13

Generally, if I have an AV receiver, I would prefer to connect all sources (like DVD player, Blue Ray player etc) to it using digital interconnects, and have only one HDMI going from AV receiver to the TV. In such a scenario, all other inputs of the TV (maybe except 15 pin VGA for PC) become defunct and won't care for having an extra HDMI on my TV.
So it depends how you are going to connect the TV with all other equipment.

ST7677 · 25th April 2008, 01:06

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Originally Posted by flipsyde

the only plasma related issue that i can recollect are bulb replacements and burn in issues.

There is no bulb in plasma to replace!!! You are confusing it with rear projection TV.
Burn in issues are also history for all practical purpose. Not an issue for home viewing, unless you are using it hours together for static displays.

I even have new gen Plasma displays in my office, displaying same Text for 10 hrs (nonstop) a day, but the burn in is very minor and temporary, by next morning it is fine.

flipsyde · 25th April 2008, 01:13

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Originally Posted by ST7677

There is no bulb in plasma to replace!!! You are confusing it with rear projection TV.

oh really? i remember reading something about plasmas having poor lamp life. i should have probably mentioned lamp instead of bulb in my earlier post.

i didn;t understand what you meant by "the burn in issue is sorted when u switch it off and turn it on again the next morning" - so you do have burn in issue when your watchin static images and also.... isn't burn in kinda permanent??

aggressive_anush · 25th April 2008, 14:32

@flipsyde

What ST7677 is referring to is called image retention. This is only temporary, and goes away quite quickly. Burn in is permanent though, and is no longer much of an issue with plasmas.

However burn in can also occur on CRTs! In fact the computer im using at office right now has an image burnt onto the screen.

Plasmas also do not use a bulb/lamp and so nothing needs replacement.

ST7677 · 26th April 2008, 00:41

Yes, there is nothing to replace there.
Life now days is 60,000 hrs to 100,000 hrs after that you just need to throw it away.

It's basically millions of tiny cells filled with Plasma/xenon, etc gases which get ignited, principle is same as CRT, but at a microscopic level.

flipsyde · 26th April 2008, 01:48

thanks for clearing that up for me guys! i was wayyy off with the whole lamp replacement thing.

22nd April 2008, 12:45	#1008
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Most probably next month but can't say for sure. It should come before olympics.
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22nd April 2008, 15:14	#1009
appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 642 Thanked: 27 Times	Hope Beijing Olympics will prod TV makers to give some good, deep discounts. I am looking for a second TV in the 32-40' range.
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24th April 2008, 14:31	#1013
mav2000 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 621 Thanked: 315 Times View My Garage	Hi, 2 HDMI's make sense if you plan to have more than one input, like a HD DVD and a playstation or a blueray player or whatever supports HDMI. Also 1080p scaling probably makes little sense. its ok to go for a lower model, as I am guessing that "scaling" means not Full HD.Anyway we do not have much HD content in India as of now and I dont see too much coming anytime soon.
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24th April 2008, 15:10	#1014
flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 644 Thanked: 84 Times	i don't know how it works in most homes but TV's at my place are usually bought to last at least 8 years!! so anyone who works on a similar game plan should definitely shell out more and go for the full HD models. that said i have been checking out tellys at the local store.......i don't understand what you guys are on about LCD vs. Plasma!! when it comes to motion picture quality LCD don;t deliver!! the only plasma related issue that i can recollect are bulb replacements and burn in issues.
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24th April 2008, 15:13	#1015
anuragn BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 192 Thanked: 51 Times	Generally, if I have an AV receiver, I would prefer to connect all sources (like DVD player, Blue Ray player etc) to it using digital interconnects, and have only one HDMI going from AV receiver to the TV. In such a scenario, all other inputs of the TV (maybe except 15 pin VGA for PC) become defunct and won't care for having an extra HDMI on my TV. So it depends how you are going to connect the TV with all other equipment.
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25th April 2008, 14:32	#1018
aggressive_anush BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 97 Thanked: Once	@flipsyde What ST7677 is referring to is called image retention. This is only temporary, and goes away quite quickly. Burn in is permanent though, and is no longer much of an issue with plasmas. However burn in can also occur on CRTs! In fact the computer im using at office right now has an image burnt onto the screen. Plasmas also do not use a bulb/lamp and so nothing needs replacement.
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26th April 2008, 00:41	#1019
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,054 Thanked: 73 Times	Yes, there is nothing to replace there. Life now days is 60,000 hrs to 100,000 hrs after that you just need to throw it away. It's basically millions of tiny cells filled with Plasma/xenon, etc gases which get ignited, principle is same as CRT, but at a microscopic level.
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26th April 2008, 01:48	#1020
flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 644 Thanked: 84 Times	thanks for clearing that up for me guys! i was wayyy off with the whole lamp replacement thing.
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