Windows Vista Discussion Thread

vivekiny2k · 16th December 2008, 21:24

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Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

wondering where did 15 GB go?

Alright, It was the system volume information. used for system restore etc. it's taking up 14+ GB. anybody knows how to manage system restore space?

anupmathur · 16th December 2008, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

Alright, It was the system volume information. used for system restore etc. it's taking up 14+ GB. anybody knows how to manage system restore space?

Right click the My Computer icon and select Properties followed by System Restore. You can set how much space you want to allow for each drive's restore.

vivekiny2k · 16th December 2008, 21:34

nope, that's for xp.

just found out this works in vista.

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=6GB

anupmathur · 16th December 2008, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

nope, that's for xp.

just found out this works in vista.

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=6GB

Sorry 'bout that! Never did switch to Vista.
Matter of fact I disable the native restore in XP and rely on Acronis, a far more reliable friend!

Ever noticed how the native restore NEVER releases space? The damn thing keeps holding till the set limit!

vivekiny2k · 18th December 2008, 19:55

ok experts, another problem for you cheers:

while to trying to play with my master boot record, to make my lappy dual bootable, i realized my "run as administrator" context menu doesn't work anymore. It's available, but it doesn't ask for password and eventually fails because of lack of authorization. I badly need it for my work.

and oh, the dual boot still doesn't work.

vikram_d · 19th December 2008, 11:23

What are the dual boot OS'es that you are using?

MuraliR · 19th December 2008, 11:42

what are the 2 OS being used?
did you try going into the User Account Control and changing the Administrator settings.

vivekiny2k · 19th December 2008, 20:22

linux suse and windows vista. i finally used easybcd to modify my MBR and dual boot works now. I was told i will not HAVE to do it. anyway.

but the run as admin is gone forever.

GTO · 26th January 2009, 18:10

I just had to put in a note on my experience with Vista. Here goes:

I had been a Vista hater. Until the last week. I had only seen Vista on my li'l brother’s laptop & that of a coupla friends. While the graphics were nice, I didn't think too much of Vista since all the computers I tried it on were running SLOW, despite a decent 2 GB of RAM.

A Dell XPS Laptop rolled into my house earlier this month. It's only going to be used on evenings, weekends and travels. Unfortunately (or so I thought), while my Dell work desktop (bought last year) came with an optional downgrade to XP, this laptop didn't. A little google'ing and a quick call to Iraghava confirmed that XP could be made to run successfully on the XPS. But locating & installing the drivers was going to be a royal pain (this one has the works....fingerprint, bluetooth, cam etc. etc.). Iraghava promised to courier me a cd containing all the relevant drivers, so we were pretty much set.

Not too many of us can resist the urge to play with a new tech toy, correct? I figured, while the driver cd was on the way, why not use Vista and get some work done on the weekend? I performed a clean install, got rid of all the bloatware and only installed the absolute must-have softwares. Thanks to Samurai, I realised that all of my vital softwares (designed to work on XP) would work on Vista as well (cross-checked with other users and used compatibility mode).

Confession: The more I started using Vista, the more I took a liking for it. Confession: I am impressed! I don't know if the latest service packs have increased Vistas response time, but the laptop is pretty darn quick. It's running on a Core2Duo 2.0 with 3 GB of RAM compared to my XP workstation running on a Core2Duo with 4 GB of RAM. Honestly, the difference between the two is 5 - 8%. Tops. Vista feels much better to use, thanks to the awesome graphics. Plus, my anti-virus doesn’t seem to be working as hard as it does on XP.
In a nutshell:

Pros
- Much improved over the earlier versions. Naysayers ought to try it again.
- Awesome graphical UI. The windows experience feels much richer.
- More secure.
- Higher level of customisation & control panel options.
- All softwares come with Vista compatible versions

Cons
- Takes some getting used to. As an XP convert, I can tell you that the first couple of hours weren’t as productive.
- As quick as the Vista is running on my laptop, XP would definitely run faster.

As you can tell, I have cancelled all XP downgrade plans for my home laptop

harry10 · 26th January 2009, 19:24

@GTO- Am using a Sony Vaio which has just 1gb ram and Using Vista Home premium since day one as it came company installed.
Not once any prob in it and just loved it. XP to me now seems a very outdated version.
By the way does anyone know when is microsoft releasing another version?

gendarmee · 26th January 2009, 19:45

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Originally Posted by harry10

By the way does anyone know when is microsoft releasing another version?

Heard windows 7 is running well. Also, that MS is planning on trying to integrate their antivirus program into that version.

anupmathur · 26th January 2009, 20:14

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Originally Posted by gendarmee

Heard windows 7 is running well. Also, that MS is planning on trying to integrate their antivirus program into that version.

Isn't it high, very high, time that they did it?! Billy ought to know best how to save his own windows! How come they never bothered to incorporate a full fledged AntiVirus into any of the Windows so far?
Another instance of corporate wheeling-dealing? You scratch my back, I scratch yours?

vivekiny2k · 26th January 2009, 20:24

GTO,

The first thing I do on any system is disable all fancy visual effects. check after doing that if it is at par with XP.

I love vista too, except for the fact that i keep losing connection when i put my comp to sleep. the MS solution given was to install a patch and SP1, but that caused even the sleep mode to stop working. did a system restore immediately. I guess i will do a clean install again.

abhijitaparadh · 26th January 2009, 20:28

I have been using Vista Ultimate SP1 on my old Dell Inspiron E1405 Core2Duo 1.66 GHz with 1 GB RAM for last one month or so. Its been relatively smooth sailing, as I use my laptop just to browse internet and chat purposes. No serious work is done there.

One thing I noticed is that Firefox 3 crashes a lot of times on VIsta, where as it didnt use to crash on XP SP2. Does anyone experiencing the same? Any possible reasons for it?

pranavt · 26th January 2009, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by anupmathur

Isn't it high, very high, time that they did it?! Billy ought to know best how to save his own windows! How come they never bothered to incorporate a full fledged AntiVirus into any of the Windows so far?
Another instance of corporate wheeling-dealing? You scratch my back, I scratch yours?

United States v. Microsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In short, they would be sued. The result of that case is Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows: Windows XP N Editions

16th December 2008, 21:34	#438
vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 209 Times View My Garage	nope, that's for xp. just found out this works in vista. vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=6GB
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18th December 2008, 19:55	#440
vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 209 Times View My Garage	ok experts, another problem for you cheers: while to trying to play with my master boot record, to make my lappy dual bootable, i realized my "run as administrator" context menu doesn't work anymore. It's available, but it doesn't ask for password and eventually fails because of lack of authorization. I badly need it for my work. and oh, the dual boot still doesn't work.
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19th December 2008, 11:23	#441
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	What are the dual boot OS'es that you are using?
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19th December 2008, 11:42	#442
MuraliR BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 361 Thanked: 35 Times	what are the 2 OS being used? did you try going into the User Account Control and changing the Administrator settings.
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19th December 2008, 20:22	#443
vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 209 Times View My Garage	linux suse and windows vista. i finally used easybcd to modify my MBR and dual boot works now. I was told i will not HAVE to do it. anyway. but the run as admin is gone forever.
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26th January 2009, 18:10	#444
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,534 Thanked: 300,737 Times View My Garage	I just had to put in a note on my experience with Vista. Here goes: I had been a Vista hater. Until the last week. I had only seen Vista on my li'l brother’s laptop & that of a coupla friends. While the graphics were nice, I didn't think too much of Vista since all the computers I tried it on were running SLOW, despite a decent 2 GB of RAM. A Dell XPS Laptop rolled into my house earlier this month. It's only going to be used on evenings, weekends and travels. Unfortunately (or so I thought), while my Dell work desktop (bought last year) came with an optional downgrade to XP, this laptop didn't. A little google'ing and a quick call to Iraghava confirmed that XP could be made to run successfully on the XPS. But locating & installing the drivers was going to be a royal pain (this one has the works....fingerprint, bluetooth, cam etc. etc.). Iraghava promised to courier me a cd containing all the relevant drivers, so we were pretty much set. Not too many of us can resist the urge to play with a new tech toy, correct? I figured, while the driver cd was on the way, why not use Vista and get some work done on the weekend? I performed a clean install, got rid of all the bloatware and only installed the absolute must-have softwares. Thanks to Samurai, I realised that all of my vital softwares (designed to work on XP) would work on Vista as well (cross-checked with other users and used compatibility mode). Confession: The more I started using Vista, the more I took a liking for it. Confession: I am impressed! I don't know if the latest service packs have increased Vistas response time, but the laptop is pretty darn quick. It's running on a Core2Duo 2.0 with 3 GB of RAM compared to my XP workstation running on a Core2Duo with 4 GB of RAM. Honestly, the difference between the two is 5 - 8%. Tops. Vista feels much better to use, thanks to the awesome graphics. Plus, my anti-virus doesn’t seem to be working as hard as it does on XP. In a nutshell: Pros - Much improved over the earlier versions. Naysayers ought to try it again. - Awesome graphical UI. The windows experience feels much richer. - More secure. - Higher level of customisation & control panel options. - All softwares come with Vista compatible versions Cons - Takes some getting used to. As an XP convert, I can tell you that the first couple of hours weren’t as productive. - As quick as the Vista is running on my laptop, XP would definitely run faster. As you can tell, I have cancelled all XP downgrade plans for my home laptop
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26th January 2009, 19:24	#445
harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,713 Thanked: 3,627 Times View My Garage	@GTO- Am using a Sony Vaio which has just 1gb ram and Using Vista Home premium since day one as it came company installed. Not once any prob in it and just loved it. XP to me now seems a very outdated version. By the way does anyone know when is microsoft releasing another version?
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26th January 2009, 20:24	#448
vivekiny2k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: cincinnati, jabalpur,chennai Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 209 Times View My Garage	GTO, The first thing I do on any system is disable all fancy visual effects. check after doing that if it is at par with XP. I love vista too, except for the fact that i keep losing connection when i put my comp to sleep. the MS solution given was to install a patch and SP1, but that caused even the sleep mode to stop working. did a system restore immediately. I guess i will do a clean install again.
	() Thanks

26th January 2009, 20:28	#449
abhijitaparadh BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 222 Thanked: 3 Times	I have been using Vista Ultimate SP1 on my old Dell Inspiron E1405 Core2Duo 1.66 GHz with 1 GB RAM for last one month or so. Its been relatively smooth sailing, as I use my laptop just to browse internet and chat purposes. No serious work is done there. One thing I noticed is that Firefox 3 crashes a lot of times on VIsta, where as it didnt use to crash on XP SP2. Does anyone experiencing the same? Any possible reasons for it?
	() Thanks