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Old 25th May 2022, 14:41   #46
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Agreed. To each his own.

P.S:- DuckDuckGo is a search engine, not a browser.
It's a full fledged browser on mobile and a browser extension on edge on macbooks to allow browsing without data collection. Yes, its also a search engine
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It's a full fledged browser on mobile and a browser extension on edge on macbooks to allow browsing without data collection. Yes, its also a search engine
Oh boy. You are in for many surprises. Full fledged browser on an Android/iPhone. The 'Android/iPhone' part trumps the privacy stuff to a huge extend.

A few years back, I used to use DuckDuckGo for searches myself until I realized how privacy and internet does not go together. Last time I visited DuckDuckGo website was when I was preparing for an interview with them 3 months back as a cybersecurity specialist (small world - in that you referred DuckDuckGo)

The only way you can be private and connected to the internet, is by using the Tor Browser or a browser that supports the Tor protocol and by visiting only dot-onion websites (which isn't practical).

Anyways, not adding anymore to the privacy topic since its a hijack from original topic.

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Old 25th May 2022, 15:50   #48
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Oh boy. You are in for many surprises. Full fledged browser on an Android/iPhone. The 'Android/iPhone' part trumps the privacy stuff to a huge extend.

A few years back, I used to use DuckDuckGo for searches myself until I realized how privacy and internet does not go together. Last time I visited DuckDuckGo website was when I was preparing for an interview with them 3 months back as a cybersecurity specialist (small world - in that you referred DuckDuckGo)

The only way you can be private and connected to the internet, is by using the Tor Browser or a browser that supports the Tor protocol and by visiting only dot-onion websites (which isn't practical).

Anyways, not adding anymore to the privacy topic since its a hijack from original topic.
Yup, TOR is way to go last mile for browser data privacy and anonymity (and can get sketchy). But for me, Duckduckgo serves good as browser and search, while ensuring data collection and privacy are covered (while I am not really looking for anonymity). Again based on what was said, choose your solution based on what your data requirements are.

Agreed, this is definitely going OT Probably a separate thread for this soon.
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Old 25th May 2022, 19:16   #49
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Oh, I wanted the links just to have the proper names of the items so that i could go to the shops and ask for those exact items, that's all
Here is the list from Amazon. Buy local, prices are at-least 15% lower,

Processor

Name :- Intel Pentium Gold 10th Gen G6405
Product Link -> Intel Website G6405
Amazon Link -> Intel Pentium G6405

Motherboard

Name :- ASUS Prime H510M-E
Product Link -> https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Co...PRIME-H510M-E/
Amazon Link -> ASUS Prime H510M-E

Look for MSI / Gigabyte / ASUS for other models in local market. Make sure to buy with M.2 Slot model.

RAM

Name :- 8GB DDR4 Desktop (anything between 2666 MHz to 3200 MHz)
Amazon Link :- Crucial Brand 8Gb DDR4

Look for Kingston / ADATA etc in local market for cheaper deals.

SSD

Product :- 120GB SATA
Amazon Link -> Geonix 120GB

Look for other brands in local market.

HDD

Product :- 2TB WD Blue
Amazon link :- WD Blue 2TB 3.5inch

Post some pictures and setup details of the final built for "some" of us to drool over

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Old 25th May 2022, 20:07   #50
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I use rpi4 with a tplink powered usb hub and all the HDDs extracted from laptops when those were replaced with SSDs.




I do, Works fine on the above setup as I don't need transcoding.
This is exactly what I was doing until a little while ago. The HDD part at least. But I was just using an old laptop instead of rpi.

Have you calculated the running cost of your setup? Mine came to around ~₹300 per month which was too much of a hassle when I could just get Netflix instead for almost a similar price.
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This is exactly what I was doing until a little while ago. The HDD part at least. But I was just using an old laptop instead of rpi.

Have you calculated the running cost of your setup? Mine came to around ~₹300 per month which was too much of a hassle when I could just get Netflix instead for almost a similar price.

I use this setup for more than just plex. It works very well as NAS.
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I use this setup for more than just plex. It works very well as NAS.
Are there any specific use cases of a NAS?
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Are there any specific use cases of a NAS?
Personal files that can also be accessed from outside ( ssh over zerotier ) , Storage for some MI home cams ,daily website backups rsynced locally and CUPs for printer.
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I have been using RPi4 since last 1.5 years but the issue I am facing is that I have had 2 external HDDs go bad on me when it was connected to the RPi. I use Jellyfin (similar to plex) for local streaming and downloads happen on HDD directly from *you know where*.

Today itself my WD Passport 5TB HDD went bad and developed clicking sound. I have started RMA process as well. The HDDs used to run 24x7 so not sure if may be choosing a 2.5 Inch external HDD was a bad idea and due to heat from the constant running caused the life span to decrease.

I want suggestion from people here as to which HDD I should buy for connecting it to my RPi4 and it will run 24x7 either downloading content or streaming (or both) locally.
Although I will use the RMAed HDD for now but I am looking for options so that I can replace the RMAed HDD with that new HDD.
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I have been using RPi4 since last 1.5 years but the issue I am facing is that I have had 2 external HDDs go bad on me when it was connected to the RPi. I use Jellyfin (similar to plex) for local streaming and downloads happen on HDD directly from *you know where*.

Today itself my WD Passport 5TB HDD went bad and developed clicking sound. I have started RMA process as well. The HDDs used to run 24x7 so not sure if may be choosing a 2.5 Inch external HDD was a bad idea and due to heat from the constant running caused the life span to decrease.

I want suggestion from people here as to which HDD I should buy for connecting it to my RPi4 and it will run 24x7 either downloading content or streaming (or both) locally.
Although I will use the RMAed HDD for now but I am looking for options so that I can replace the RMAed HDD with that new HDD.

24*7 Read/Write - Seagate Ironwolf or similar nas drives. Regular one will fail when you continuously read/write.
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24*7 Read/Write - Seagate Ironwolf or similar nas drives. Regular one will fail when you continuously read/write.
With a regular portable external HDD, do you think I can potentially resolve my issues of drive failing if say on torrent downloads I keep only max 1:1 ratio so that torrents pause sooner. Also don't upload after 1:1 ratio is reached, download as needed and it is only when streaming something will the HDD be used and I won't be streaming always.

Honestly, I will first use the RMAed external HDD and won't be spending on a new HDD as it will cost me 10K+ for HDD and enclosure.

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Today itself my WD Passport 5TB HDD went bad and developed clicking sound. I have started RMA process as well. The HDDs used to run 24x7 so not sure if may be choosing a 2.5 Inch external HDD was a bad idea and due to heat from the constant running caused the life span to decrease.

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Have you checked the drive with a desktop / laptop ? rpi is too loo powered for a spinning 5TB drive. Get a powered USB hub or a Y shape USB power cable.
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With a regular portable external HDD, do you think I can potentially resolve my issues of drive failing if say on torrent downloads I keep only max 1:1 ratio so that torrents pause sooner. Also don't upload after 1:1 ratio is reached, download as needed and it is only when streaming something will the HDD be used and I won't be streaming always.

Honestly, I will first use the RMAed external HDD and won't be spending on a new HDD as it will cost me 10K+ for HDD and enclosure.
If you are seeding 1:1(private tracker, I believe), go with a seedbox then. It will help you in maintaining good ratio and also It is cheaper and you can then download directly from the seedbox to your pi (rsync, SFTP) or even install emby and stream directly on your TV.

Second option will be to buy a USB 3.0 pen drive( using 64GB pen drive to download on my odroid N2+) and use it for downloading and seeding. Once you have downloaded, you can use the torrent client itself to move it to your HDD.

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If you are seeding 1:1(private tracker, I believe), go with a seedbox then. It will help you in maintaining good ratio and also It is cheaper and you can then download directly from the seedbox to your pi (rsync, SFTP) or even install emby and stream directly on your TV.

Second option will be to buy a USB 3.0 pen drive( using 64GB pen drive to download on my odroid N2+) and use it for downloading and seeding. Once you have downloaded, you can use the torrent client itself to move it to your HDD.
Actually 99% downloads are using public trackers. I only have one private tracker membership and I have very good ratio there so I download only on need basis from there. I guess when it comes to public trackers, I need to be selfish now and pause torrents whenever downloads are done.

Seedbox is something I used for a month to boost my ratio on the private tracker. But I don't know if I should get one by paying monthly. Also I don't think there are cheap unmetered seedboxes especially the ones which allow installation of softwares like Jellyfin, Sonarr, Radarr, Prowlarr and torrent client and let me stream from jellyfin server to my iPad or firestick or so and not count towards data.
If you have some, please do direct me for something cheap, I don't need SSD, HDD is ok and 1TB should also do.


My RPi here is used as a 24x7 torrent box with Jellyfin as media server (similar to plex) and sonarr, radarr, prowlarr to automatically download media via qbittorrent. This is my use case, nothing else I do.

Any suggestion invited.
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Following this with interest.

Guys recommending Pi4, where do you get one? It seems to be out of stock everywhere? Looks like everyone was busy completing a Pi4 project in the lockdowns
There's a shortage of raspberry pi's all over the world + scalping. There's a list of indian retailers listed on their site but even they have no stock or grossly overpriced.

If you are lucky you might be able to snag a second hand one. I had bought a pibox kit off amazon for 6k something. Came with the Pi4 4gb, adapter, mini hdmi cable and case with fan. Don't recommend using the fan though. Even after using it at a low speed by using the 3.3v pin the fan makes lots of noise and its bearings went bad in 2-3 months. Lubed it twice but still noise returns after a while. Got a full metal heatsink case and can run it fanless now

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