The iPhone Thread

spadival · 13th April 2010, 09:00

Opera Mini browser app has been finally approved!!

Does not seem to load faster compared to Safari over 3G network. But should save on data charges and should be great in terms of speed, on GPRS/EDGE networks.

Jaggu · 13th April 2010, 10:00

Yup for us with EDGE/GPRS, Team-BHP loads faster than our own mobile skin version on iphone safari!!

Approved

Installed and using it now!

Ram · 14th April 2010, 16:52

Apple is changing their licensing rules to control what software, they will allow on iPhone, iPad and its other devices.

What are the changes ?

App developers may only use Apple's programming tools.
Apple will refuse to distribute any apps in the iTunes store that violate the new agreement.
Developers may no longer use outside services to measure their application performance. Will make it easier to mask Apple's core inefficiencies. न रहेगा बाँस, न बजेगी बाँसुरी !!

Who is affected ?

Startups with huge VC funding, who're already working on projects with non-Apple tools.
Adobe Systems, which announced new tools for creating app versions for iPhone which automatically generate versions for other competing devices.

Why the hostile behavior?
Apple's core revenue streams have shifted from desktop computing to mobile.

In 2001, 80% of Apple's revenue came from its laptops and desktops.
That will drop to 27% in 2011. By end 2011, 50% of Apple's total revenue will come from iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad.

Mobile devices with more applications
will naturally be more attractive to buyers.

In the battle for mobile telephony leadership, the struggle is on
to own developers and applications. Apple is thrashing tooth and nail, to try to grow their presence. They want to pressure developers to stick to Apple and dump Symbian, Blackberry, Android and others.

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Ram (just my opinion)

pawan_pullarwar · 14th April 2010, 17:22

When I was searching for Smartphone, iphone was the best among other but lacking of multitasking which forced me to buy this multitasking phone which also offer the same touch sensitivity as Iphone.

YouTube - Palm Pre Speed and Multitasking Demonstration

spadival · 15th April 2010, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram

Apple is changing their licensing rules to control what software, they will allow on iPhone, iPad and its other devices.

What are the changes ?

App developers may only use Apple's programming tools.
Developers may no longer use outside services to measure their application performance. Will make it easier to mask Apple's core inefficiencies.

While I agree with your hypothesis, I am not too particularly concerned about Apple's new restrictions. I dont know about Adobe's tool, but the iPhone apps that come out of the tool suuuuuuck big time !! Basically, any app that is not designed or built with iPhone UI in mind will always suck.

Adobe is really p!ssed that Flash isn't supported natively in Safari (iPhone) and there is nothing they can do about it, short of creating their own brower app and hoping that Apple will approve it!

Jaggu · 19th April 2010, 15:31

These are from engadget.

iPhone 4G: is this it? -- Engadget

Image source

and this is what macrumors had to say;

Possible iPhone 4G Images Surface - Mac Rumors

Time to save up i say

anmolbedi · 19th April 2010, 15:41

And this is what GSMArena.com has to say on the Iphone 4G:

iPhone 4G caught in the wild, is thicker than 3G and edgier - GSMArena.com news

Update: Actually, the truth about this iPhone 4G wannabe surfaced much much earlier than that. The device turned out to be a Japanese knock-off that some fraudsters were trying to sell to publications for 10 000 US dollars. We told you there was something wrong here.

Jaggu · 19th April 2010, 18:42

Check again the source of GSM arena (engadget) has updated that they are checking it out and it might be the 4G itself.

Guess? · 19th April 2010, 19:21

It looks like the real thing but I hope it isn't the production version (prototypes are generally lower quality). The buttons and aluminium strip on the side looks very cheap along with the random joints. Apart from that looks like a good upgrade.

extreme_torque · 19th April 2010, 19:25

I like the current one as far as looks are concerned.

Jaggu · 19th April 2010, 20:43

And it sure seems to be the real deal This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo

thorpe · 19th April 2010, 20:58

Yes! This is the new iPhone 4

Check this out This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo

Gizmodo has got the device, ripped off the iPhone, full HI-res pics.

Better Camera, Higher resolution screen, new squarish body, lotsa more things!!!

Full Review, its an almost final prototype with perfect finish!

Live To Jive · 19th April 2010, 21:04

The old iPhones look better. This looks like the other touchscreen phones in the market.

sids911 · 19th April 2010, 21:04

The new iPhone was conveniently lost in a Redwood city bar!! You bet its a prototype to mislead people.

If it isnt, one Steve Jobs is a raging maniac all red in face right now. And a guy getting fired!

This MicroSim thingie does seem unrealistic though. How many markets support them right now? and how many will when this phone gets launched in July?

Sahil · 20th April 2010, 11:09

It being "lost" is all a gimmick ! Apple knows best how to create the buzz around their products, it's all preplanned and NOTHING gets leaked just like that unless they want it to.

13th April 2010, 09:00	#1951
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Opera Mini browser app has been finally approved!! Does not seem to load faster compared to Safari over 3G network. But should save on data charges and should be great in terms of speed, on GPRS/EDGE networks.
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Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	Opera is super fast! Yup for us with EDGE/GPRS, Team-BHP loads faster than our own mobile skin version on iphone safari!! Approved Installed and using it now! Last edited by Jaggu : 13th April 2010 at 10:24.
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Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 219 Times View My Garage	Apple is changing their licensing rules to control what software, they will allow on iPhone, iPad and its other devices. What are the changes ? App developers may only use Apple's programming tools. Apple will refuse to distribute any apps in the iTunes store that violate the new agreement. Developers may no longer use outside services to measure their application performance. Will make it easier to mask Apple's core inefficiencies. न रहेगा बाँस, न बजेगी बाँसुरी !! Who is affected ? Startups with huge VC funding, who're already working on projects with non-Apple tools. Adobe Systems, which announced new tools for creating app versions for iPhone which automatically generate versions for other competing devices. Why the hostile behavior? Apple's core revenue streams have shifted from desktop computing to mobile. In 2001, 80% of Apple's revenue came from its laptops and desktops. That will drop to 27% in 2011. By end 2011, 50% of Apple's total revenue will come from iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad. Mobile devices with more applications will naturally be more attractive to buyers. In the battle for mobile telephony leadership, the struggle is on to own developers and applications. Apple is thrashing tooth and nail, to try to grow their presence. They want to pressure developers to stick to Apple and dump Symbian, Blackberry, Android and others. Ram (just my opinion)
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Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	iPhone 4G leaked out pics?! These are from engadget. iPhone 4G: is this it? -- Engadget Image source and this is what macrumors had to say; Possible iPhone 4G Images Surface - Mac Rumors Time to save up i say Attached Thumbnails
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anmolbedi BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 58 Thanked: 4 Times	And this is what GSMArena.com has to say on the Iphone 4G: iPhone 4G caught in the wild, is thicker than 3G and edgier - GSMArena.com news Update: Actually, the truth about this iPhone 4G wannabe surfaced much much earlier than that. The device turned out to be a Japanese knock-off that some fraudsters were trying to sell to publications for 10 000 US dollars. We told you there was something wrong here.
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19th April 2010, 18:42	#1958
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	Check again the source of GSM arena (engadget) has updated that they are checking it out and it might be the 4G itself.
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Guess? BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 146 Thanked: 2 Times	It looks like the real thing but I hope it isn't the production version (prototypes are generally lower quality). The buttons and aluminium strip on the side looks very cheap along with the random joints. Apart from that looks like a good upgrade.
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extreme_torque Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,376 Thanked: 5,105 Times	I like the current one as far as looks are concerned.
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19th April 2010, 20:43	#1961
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	And it sure seems to be the real deal This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo
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19th April 2010, 20:58	#1962
thorpe BANNED Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Moga, PUNJAB Posts: 94 Thanked: Once	Yes! This is the new iPhone 4 Check this out This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo Gizmodo has got the device, ripped off the iPhone, full HI-res pics. Better Camera, Higher resolution screen, new squarish body, lotsa more things!!! Full Review, its an almost final prototype with perfect finish!
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19th April 2010, 21:04	#1963
Live To Jive BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 698 Thanked: 89 Times	The old iPhones look better. This looks like the other touchscreen phones in the market.
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sids911 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 389 Thanked: 43 Times View My Garage	The new iPhone was conveniently lost in a Redwood city bar!! You bet its a prototype to mislead people. If it isnt, one Steve Jobs is a raging maniac all red in face right now. And a guy getting fired! This MicroSim thingie does seem unrealistic though. How many markets support them right now? and how many will when this phone gets launched in July?
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20th April 2010, 11:09	#1965
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	It being "lost" is all a gimmick ! Apple knows best how to create the buzz around their products, it's all preplanned and NOTHING gets leaked just like that unless they want it to.
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