[Jaggu]

Note from Team-BHP support: Re-instated certain deleted post. Request all to keep it a cordial debate.

Jaggu
TeamBHP Support.

[navan49]

After the discussion yesterday I fiddle some thing and push all the archieve mails to bin and from the bin I deleted the mail messages. To day it directly give the option of delete.Yes mine is a google mail account.

[dre@ms]

Originally Posted by navan49

After the discussion yesterday I fiddle some thing and push all the archieve mails to bin and from the bin I deleted the mail messages. To day it directly give the option of delete.Yes mine is a google mail account.

No need to move all mail from Archive to Trash.
You must have done(fiddled),
Settings > Mail > Gmail > Archive Messages > Off

[navan49]

Dear thread members I am a old generation old man of 63 and still want to be with the latest gadgets. So I bought the Iphone 4 and trying to use all the facilities here. Any body can help me with one more query.I want to participate in Share purchase and selling on the move. But it is not possible with iphone with my poor knowledge. It needs Java to use the sbicapsec.com and need the explorer.Is there any idea to install Java in Iphone. Mine is Iphone 4 with 32GB.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by dre@ms

No need to move all mail from Archive to Trash.
You must have done(fiddled),
Settings > Mail > Gmail > Archive Messages > Off

I think this is for IMAP. Am using Exchange configuration for my Gmail and it does not have this option.

[dre@ms]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

I think this is for IMAP. Am using Exchange configuration for my Gmail and it does not have this option.

Not sure about it, but I selected the Google settings and not the Exchange.

[Neilguy]

Originally Posted by navan49

Dear thread members I am a old generation old man of 63 and still want to be with the latest gadgets. So I bought the Iphone 4 and trying to use all the facilities here. Any body can help me with one more query.I want to participate in Share purchase and selling on the move. But it is not possible with iphone with my poor knowledge. It needs Java to use the sbicapsec.com and need the explorer.Is there any idea to install Java in Iphone. Mine is Iphone 4 with 32GB.

Sorry, you cannot install Java (or any java apps) on the iPhone 4.

[amitk26]

Originally Posted by Neilguy

Sorry, you cannot install Java (or any java apps) on the iPhone 4.

Apple has officially deprecated Java from MAC OS-X and Apple ecosystem as well so it will not be there in future iPhones as well.
Here is a mail from Steve Jobs
EmailFromSteveJobs | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

He also said famously "Java’s not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big heavyweight ball and chain"

[navan49]

Iphone is such a good mobile. If we cannot install Java we cannot use it in place of laptop for the sites which are built with Java.So we cannot get rid of our laptop.If that is the case how about using the ibook with Java applications.Though they say that no bogy is using Java it is not true. The sites are telling us to down load sun Java and browse or trade.I think there may be some 3rd party Java for Iphone4.

[amitk26]

Originally Posted by navan49

Iphone is such a good mobile. If we cannot install Java we cannot use it in place of laptop for the sites which are built with Java.So we cannot get rid of our laptop.If that is the case how about using the ibook with Java applications.Though they say that no bogy is using Java it is not true. The sites are telling us to down load sun Java and browse or trade.I think there may be some 3rd party Java for Iphone4.

Well there used to be applications like Cloud browser and few others which allowed Java based website but I am not sure if they exists any longer.

Apple revised developer agreement with iPhone 4 release and it prohibits any kind of glue layer or tool for apps to be hosted on App store.
This includes Flash, Java, Silverlight and Mono ( open source equivalent of .net).

The app must be developed only in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript on official Apple SDK.
Subsequently all such apps were deleted from app store.
So this agreement binds third party companies and they can no longer provide any such product.

So if you are particular on Java go for products which support Java.

You are right and Job's pearls of wisdom were from the fact that Java is forte of competition and allowing Java would mean loosing apps and developers to other ecosystem.

There are some browsers which support flash on iPhone but they trans code flash on the server and no interpretation is done on the device thus they abide by Apple agreement but I am not sure this kind of product is available for Java and even if it is available it is not advisable for a banking transaction which needs secured tunnel as any trans-coding on intermediate server is invitation to trouble.

[navan49]

I have lots of contact phone numbers in Nokia E75 Mobile. I wanted to install in Iphone4. I could down load it to my IMAC. But could not copy paste to my contacts in my iphone.It synchronises with itune but not able to add my contacts. Any help from the thread members.

[drkakkilaya]

Originally Posted by navan49

I have lots of contact phone numbers in Nokia E75 Mobile. I wanted to install in Iphone4. I could down load it to my IMAC. But could not copy paste to my contacts in my iphone.It synchronises with itune but not able to add my contacts. Any help from the thread members.

Copy your contacts to address book on mac
Connect yo iphone to itunes
Click info
Tick sync address
Sync

[dre@ms]

Finally some good news for iPhone lovers. iPhone5 getting launched on October 5th by Tim Cooks.

AllThingsD: Apple CEO Tim Cook to unveil iPhone 5 at October 4 media event | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence

[animdas]

Originally Posted by navan49

Iphone is such a good mobile. If we cannot install Java we cannot use it in place of laptop for the sites which are built with Java.So we cannot get rid of our laptop.If that is the case how about using the ibook with Java applications.Though they say that no bogy is using Java it is not true. The sites are telling us to down load sun Java and browse or trade.I think there may be some 3rd party Java for Iphone4.

I have heard (that's all- nothing more ) of "Jailbreaking" an iPhone.
Can't a Jailbroken iPhone have Java installed?

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by dre@ms

Finally some good news for iPhone lovers. iPhone5 getting launched on October 5th by Tim Cooks.

AllThingsD: Apple CEO Tim Cook to unveil iPhone 5 at October 4 media event | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence

Too much of speculations going on, i feel its going to be an upgraded iPhone 4 or 4S rather than 5 with iOS 5 that is going to come out. An iPod touch 3G also being rumored.