The iPhone Thread

srijit · 21st August 2008, 16:33

Sigh.

Steer and Tanveer, see what I mean. ^^^^

tsk1979 · 21st August 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by srijit

Sigh.

Steer and Tanveer, see what I mean. ^^^^

ROFL.

See, I told you so, if 20 people think iphone is bad, and all of them have same grouses, all of them will post in this thread. So just carry on and let it be

srijit · 21st August 2008, 17:03

Well, at least they could get a bit more creative about it. This is no different from the spam emails one receives telling you that you will win $$ from Microsoft if you forward to 100 friends.

tsk1979 · 21st August 2008, 17:09

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Originally Posted by srijit

Well, at least they could get a bit more creative about it. This is no different from the spam emails one receives telling you that you will win $$ from Microsoft if you forward to 100 friends.

One is a spam email which lies. you do not get $100.
These emails doing rounds are telling the facts, however getting same emails again and again is actually spam, even if what is written is a fact.

So if a member wants to post something negative, we can only point out that this has been pointed before and discussion should move on.

Now carrying on the discussion, the price is out 36000 for 16GB.
From those who have booked, a question, does this include lockin also like the US, or this price is for off the shelf do as you please.
If there is operator lockin at this high price, I presume both Airtel and Vodafone in collusion with apple have decided to reap in big profits.
Normally when you have vendor lockin the phone price is subsidized. So asking full price after operator lock-in is a shady business practice

I heard there are some cases in EU about lockin and how it violates consumer rights. If EU forces apple to sell unlocked phones in EU, they will have to do so, albeit at a higher price of 300-400 euro etc.,
If that happens, expect people to buy phones from there and bring to India. It will give rise to a parallel grey market.

srijit · 21st August 2008, 17:13

Speaking of subsidy...
US call rates per min: 25 - 30 cents
Indian call rates: 2 - 5 cents

So I wouldnt expect a subsidy and carrier independece anytime soon. There is no margin in granting a subsidy in India. We have some of the worlds lowest call rates.

source: Airtel chairman in some newspaper, when asked if he would subsidize the iPhone.

sam003 · 21st August 2008, 17:51

I have my 16 GB older version iphone with me bought in US and cracked next moment. It works really well. Speaker are not good though but battery live is amazing. Only major weakness on this phone I can see is for anything you have to either pay Apple some money or look for workaround, like ringtones, video converter etc. But as a phone it has no comparision believe me.

Steeroid · 21st August 2008, 18:20

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

From those who have booked, a question, does this include lockin also like the US, or this price is for off the shelf do as you please.
If there is operator lockin at this high price, I presume both Airtel and Vodafone in collusion with apple have decided to reap in big profits.
Normally when you have vendor lockin the phone price is subsidized. So asking full price after operator lock-in is a shady business practice

Confirmed - the phones are network locked. I just got a mail from Airtel and called up 121 to confirm.

That's robbery twice-over. EDIT: Thrice over, considering that you have to pay Apple for anything more including ringtones.

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Originally Posted by sam003

But as a phone it has no comparision believe me.

That is correct - no other phone works (or doesnt work) in such a unique manner.

shajufx · 21st August 2008, 20:22

Its an interesting discussion over here ! So what is the conclusion ? Should I buy an i-phone tomorow (official launching in India 22nd Aug 2008) ? Or wait for the rushing crowd to settle down ? 31k for an 8 GB looks overpriced to me that too a carrier locked handset ! I was considering to upgrade my Nokia E62 which is my true companion since 1 year. Luckily I use a postpaid Airtel sim since 2 years and not planning to change it soon (helpful if I decide to buy an i-phone from airtel).

jassi · 21st August 2008, 21:34

@shajufx - hold on to your chips there, no point in wasting money, besides there is plenty of news of problems and reasons on not getting one. Lets wait for someone to buy one and then update this thread on cracked plastic and proprietary closed functionality hidden behind the amazing UI (unless you want to be the one who posts that info

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shajufx · 21st August 2008, 21:52

Airtel and Vodafone claims to have 1000s of bookings with advance amount already paid for tomorow's launch ! So, I am sure there will be lot of bhpians across the country who want to try it first-hand and give a detailed report on the good and bad of it. I am not in a hurry to throw 31k just like that ! I dont take risks of being the 'first-idiot' or the 'first smart man' when it comes to gadgets ! Fingers crossed !

whatcanthisbe · 21st August 2008, 23:06

The moment you have been waiting for is here. The new iPhone 3G premieres August 22, 2008. iPhone 3G will be available in 2 exciting options:

8 GB (Black) for Rs 31000
16GB (White & Black) for Rs 36100

To celebrate the launch of the iPhone 3G in India, we will be opening three of our Airtel stores, one each in Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore at the stroke of midnight 12.00am (Friday Morning) on August 22nd.

Join us early on the red carpet as we camp out throughout the evening.
We are expecting some long queues, so plan your day and reach the location as soon as possible. Remember, our stock is limited and will be available only on first cum first basis.

So, gear up to witness the biggest launch event on August 22, 2008 and be a part of history at

Airtel Brand Shop
S-45, Ground Floor, Sahara Mall,
MG Road, SEC- 28, Gurgaon
Haryana

Ps: Can’t make it for the midnight launch!

In case you can't make it you can still get your iPhone on priority. Just visit one of the select Airtel stores & confirm your booking by paying Rs 5000 on August 20 or 21.You'll get an appointment to collect your iPhone after paying the balance amount. For list of the select Airtel stores log on to Airtel iPhone.

diabloo · 21st August 2008, 23:15

Looks like the only guys losing sleep over iPhone in India are the Airtel guys

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Originally Posted by whatcanthisbe

To celebrate the launch of the iPhone 3G in India, we will be opening three of our Airtel stores, one each in Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore at the stroke of midnight 12.00am (Friday Morning) on August 22nd.

Vid6639 · 21st August 2008, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

Looks like the only guys losing sleep over iPhone in India are the Airtel guys

Even vodafone has it's stores open from 12am to 3am.

Jaggu · 22nd August 2008, 01:56

Well guys i went and picked up my iPhone 16 GB Black from AirTel. Right now in the process of syncing and setting it up

Launch was the worst ever for the gizmo and gizmo freaks!! more on that tomorrow when i get some time.

Right now let me finish syncing and sleep.

cheers
Jaggu

Steeroid · 22nd August 2008, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Well guys i went and picked up my iPhone 16 GB Black from AirTel. Right now in the process of syncing and setting it up

cheers
Jaggu

Congrats. I am in the process of 'unbricking' mine which has become quite useless after the 2.0.2 upgrade.

21st August 2008, 16:33	#916
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	Sigh. Steer and Tanveer, see what I mean. ^^^^
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21st August 2008, 17:03	#918
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	Well, at least they could get a bit more creative about it. This is no different from the spam emails one receives telling you that you will win $$ from Microsoft if you forward to 100 friends.
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21st August 2008, 17:13	#920
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	Speaking of subsidy... US call rates per min: 25 - 30 cents Indian call rates: 2 - 5 cents So I wouldnt expect a subsidy and carrier independece anytime soon. There is no margin in granting a subsidy in India. We have some of the worlds lowest call rates. source: Airtel chairman in some newspaper, when asked if he would subsidize the iPhone.
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21st August 2008, 17:51	#921
sam003 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 533 Thanked: 67 Times	I have my 16 GB older version iphone with me bought in US and cracked next moment. It works really well. Speaker are not good though but battery live is amazing. Only major weakness on this phone I can see is for anything you have to either pay Apple some money or look for workaround, like ringtones, video converter etc. But as a phone it has no comparision believe me.
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21st August 2008, 20:22	#923
shajufx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BLR & Singapore Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 831 Times View My Garage	Its an interesting discussion over here ! So what is the conclusion ? Should I buy an i-phone tomorow (official launching in India 22nd Aug 2008) ? Or wait for the rushing crowd to settle down ? 31k for an 8 GB looks overpriced to me that too a carrier locked handset ! I was considering to upgrade my Nokia E62 which is my true companion since 1 year. Luckily I use a postpaid Airtel sim since 2 years and not planning to change it soon (helpful if I decide to buy an i-phone from airtel).
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21st August 2008, 21:34	#924
jassi BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 980 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	@shajufx - hold on to your chips there, no point in wasting money, besides there is plenty of news of problems and reasons on not getting one. Lets wait for someone to buy one and then update this thread on cracked plastic and proprietary closed functionality hidden behind the amazing UI (unless you want to be the one who posts that info)
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21st August 2008, 21:52	#925
shajufx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BLR & Singapore Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 831 Times View My Garage	Airtel and Vodafone claims to have 1000s of bookings with advance amount already paid for tomorow's launch ! So, I am sure there will be lot of bhpians across the country who want to try it first-hand and give a detailed report on the good and bad of it. I am not in a hurry to throw 31k just like that ! I dont take risks of being the 'first-idiot' or the 'first smart man' when it comes to gadgets ! Fingers crossed !
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21st August 2008, 23:06	#926
whatcanthisbe BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: http://www.wandering-online.com Posts: 499 Thanked: 6 Times	The moment you have been waiting for is here. The new iPhone 3G premieres August 22, 2008. iPhone 3G will be available in 2 exciting options: 8 GB (Black) for Rs 31000 16GB (White & Black) for Rs 36100 To celebrate the launch of the iPhone 3G in India, we will be opening three of our Airtel stores, one each in Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore at the stroke of midnight 12.00am (Friday Morning) on August 22nd. Join us early on the red carpet as we camp out throughout the evening. We are expecting some long queues, so plan your day and reach the location as soon as possible. Remember, our stock is limited and will be available only on first cum first basis. So, gear up to witness the biggest launch event on August 22, 2008 and be a part of history at Airtel Brand Shop S-45, Ground Floor, Sahara Mall, MG Road, SEC- 28, Gurgaon Haryana Ps: Can’t make it for the midnight launch! In case you can't make it you can still get your iPhone on priority. Just visit one of the select Airtel stores & confirm your booking by paying Rs 5000 on August 20 or 21.You'll get an appointment to collect your iPhone after paying the balance amount. For list of the select Airtel stores log on to Airtel iPhone.
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22nd August 2008, 01:56	#929
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,906 Times	I am an iPhone owner!! Well guys i went and picked up my iPhone 16 GB Black from AirTel. Right now in the process of syncing and setting it up Launch was the worst ever for the gizmo and gizmo freaks!! more on that tomorrow when i get some time. Right now let me finish syncing and sleep. cheers Jaggu
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