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Old 19th December 2017, 15:44   #10741
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I came across this article and wanted to get opinion about fellow BHPians.
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Old 19th December 2017, 15:53   #10742
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I came across this article and wanted to get opinion about fellow BHPians.
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...from=home-tech
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But in court, Apple argues that it is only responsible for ensuring the iPhone lasts one year, the default warranty you get when you buy an iPhone. For comparison, if you enroll in Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program, you will be paying for your new phone for two full years.
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Old 19th December 2017, 22:37   #10743
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While I am of the firm belief that the latest updates do slow down the iphones, here is another perspective about it.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/1...ww.google.com/

Though they suggest a clean install of the latest update on older devices which is a good one, i still believe some updates which are not related to the older devices still get pushed onto them and render them slow or sluggish after sometime.
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Limited experience with iOS so make what you will of it.

We bought an SE for the better half running 10.x out of the box, now updated to the latest 11.x version.

No deterioration in performance, and I asked her to NEVER do an OTA update. Every update done via iTunes on her Mac, and nothing's gone wrong so far.
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No deterioration in performance, and I asked her to NEVER do an OTA update. Every update done via iTunes on her Mac, and nothing's gone wrong so far.
Sorry, if I didn't follow the thread earlier. But, why no OTA update?
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Old 20th December 2017, 12:10   #10746
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^^I have the same question. My iPhone/iPad updates are always OTA, never via iTunes/Mac. Any specific reasons for this?
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I have been using iPhone since the iOS 6 days. Over the years, I have suffered glitches which were specific to my phones. I observed that issues were observed only when I updated my iOS OTA. During iOS 7->8 migration, I faced a lot of screen freeze issues and had to reach out to Apple Support. There, I was advised to restore my phone using iTunes and that indeed solved my issue.

Going forward, the Apple CC guy requested me to upgrade via iTunes as much as possible. The reason that he gave me is while doing it OTA, there are chances that few files of the update might not have been downloaded properly/completely. While installing, these files will lead to "partial" install. On iTunes, the downloaded file is validated to ensure it is complete and then installed. This ensures a stable installation of the OS. I have been following this since the past 3.5 years and no complaints so far.

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Sorry, if I didn't follow the thread earlier. But, why no OTA update?
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^^I have the same question. My iPhone/iPad updates are always OTA, never via iTunes/Mac. Any specific reasons for this?
The thing with updates via iTunes is: every time you update (be it the full iOS 11 or the much smaller 11.2.1), it will download the entire iOS each time.

So, OTA 11.2.1 is 67 mb but it will be 2.x gb via iTunes.
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For me this feature is not working on iPhone 7 plus with latest version of WhatsApp i.e. v2.17.82. Working for anyone?

http://indianexpress.com/article/tec...ithin-the-app/
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I find it hard to believe that an OTA update can be faulty vis-a-vis itunes install. If that was the case, Apple wouldn't have offered it in the first place.
However, the cached files could be causing the problem when update is done over OTA against a fresh install, but this should iron out after a while of using the device with OTA update.
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Sorry, if I didn't follow the thread earlier. But, why no OTA update?
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^^I have the same question. My iPhone/iPad updates are always OTA, never via iTunes/Mac. Any specific reasons for this?
This is not specific to iOS, I've always stuck to doing 'download to PC & install' updates for all my devices, unless they're really minor fixes.

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The thing with updates via iTunes is: every time you update (be it the full iOS 11 or the much smaller 11.2.1), it will download the entire iOS each time.

So, OTA 11.2.1 is 67 mb but it will be 2.x gb via iTunes.
Assurance of a clean download, validated before install is the primary motive.

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I find it hard to believe that an OTA update can be faulty vis-a-vis itunes install. If that was the case, Apple wouldn't have offered it in the first place.
However, the cached files could be causing the problem when update is done over OTA against a fresh install, but this should iron out after a while of using the device with OTA update.
I wouldn't claim any expertise here, but every round of troubleshooting invariably involves the question: 'was there an OTA update prior to the issue showing up'? Clean installs are the first recommended software fix even by OEM support, so there must be some conventional wisdom there.

Anyway, like I said, it's worked for me for years across multiple platforms so I stick to the practice. YMMV.

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Old 20th December 2017, 16:14   #10752
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Guys, I work on various products wherein we do OTA updates without any issues. I don't know how it is done for mobiles, but for our products, it hardly makes any difference between OTA update and direct update. In both the cases, we first download the file onto the device, do the integrity (CRC kind) check, unzip the files onto a second partition (hidden from user), again do the integrity check on the unzipped files.
Then, before starting the update, we take the backup of the existing binary so that it will be flashed when something goes wrong during update.
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This is not specific to iOS, I've always stuck to doing 'download to PC & install' updates for all my devices, unless they're really minor fixes.
Same here i am also paranoid and update with complete file, for all the major updates, only the minor one egs 11.2.x types i use OTA. With high bandwidth internet file size is not an issue these days, having the whole firmware file makes it easy to restore if things go wrong later on.
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It isn't always about in-use phones facing issues with OTA updates either.

A friend's recently purchased iPhone 8 got stuck during an OTA update right out-of-the-box, and stayed stuck overnight as she was scared of bricking it if she interrupted it. Apple Support made her hard reset and update via iTunes. Sorted in under 30 mins.
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Any one here use the Apple air pods? How good is the sound quality? How does it hold up against other wireless earphones in the market? Is it worth the 11k (as per amazon)?
How difficult is Siri?
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