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Old 21st July 2018, 14:42   #11176
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Guys need an urgent advice. I'm being offered an iPhone X 256 GB Silver for 78K.

The catch is that it's a replaced device (out of the box device was claimed in insurance as it was damaged significantly in a drop- owner paid upto 11k for insurance over and above 1,09,000 Mrp 2 months ago at Croma)

The replaced device was handed over by post the owner says, and it's just the device without a new box. Rest belongs to the old piece, i.e. Bill + Insurance + headset + Charger etc

Is this the way the replacement device works through Apple India? Any way to figure out it's not a used piece/refurbished piece?

I believe 78k for a 256GB replaced device sounds ok considering it was a Rs. 1,20,000 deal originally. Replacement arrived a week ago. Upon probing, owner seems to have taken it emotionally that his investment gave him a loss of more than 40K & wants somebody else to be the owner of a replaced device, albeit just a week old and not used much as he put it up for sale immediately. I will do the closer inspection myself once I go to conclude the deal, but I don't know how to go about verifying if it's a refurbished/used piece.

Appreciate a quick revert from anybody who knows how the apple device replacement works in India.

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Guys need an urgent advice. I'm being offered an iPhone X 256 GB Silver for 78K.
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If the model number of the iPhone starts with the letter ‘M’, then it is a NEW iPhone. If on the other hand, the model number starts with letter ‘F’, it’s a carrier-refurbished model and when it starts with the letter ‘N’, it indicates that it is an Apple Replacement device.
https://appletoolbox.com/2017/11/how...r-refurbished/

I don't think you can always predict if the replacement device is new or refurbished. The model no. is the only way you'll know.

I believe, even refurbished iPhones carry some warranty. So, 78k seems like a good deal (provided you're ok if it turns out to be a refurbished phone).
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I believe, even refurbished iPhones carry some warranty. So, 78k seems like a good deal (provided you're ok if it turns out to be a refurbished phone).
It turns out it's a N series. I also spoke to Apple Care, they couldn't for sure tell me if a replacement device is a purely unused/untouched device (chances of it being an Apple refurb (F) badged as N by any chance?) All they said was a one time test is conducted to see if everything is working & then it's handed over sans packaging, & a sheet verifying handover. I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and go ahead in good faith The service coverage checked out too, valid until 2019 Feb. Now only if i can find an emotional LTe 3 series seller selling his watch to boot with the X.

Apple care didn't know if out of 4G coverage area, would calls still work on the Lte watch while in 3G atleast. Airtel said 4G strictly required for VoLte calls on the watch & for Data (recieving app notifications/SMS messages while the phone's not with me). Many areas in Bangalore still without decent 4G coverage, rendering the lte call/data facility partially usable IMO.

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I bought iPhone 8 plus from the US, directly from apple.com online, just to be sure of the quality of the product I buy. ( based on my past experience with Samsung - Korean vs Indian models and the vast difference in their quality, I thus picked the iPhone from USA ).
It has served me for a year or so with no issues and connects to all networks afaik. Yes I benefited from the cheaper price of course. Its not just me but many of my friends and relatives do the same. However I don't know whether the warranty applies in India too ( I hope it does ) .
Usually Amazon USA shows mobile phone items either with USA warranty or international model with no warranty and I would prefer the former and I applied the same thought on my iPhone purchase too.
Thanks for the information. If I do then I will also purchase from the Apple store.
Do you have any idea if the iPhone could be cheaper at Qatar Duty Free?
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Is it better purchasing an iPhone from the US? It is about 8k cheaper. Will it support all networks in India? Will the warranty be global?
Apple Warranty is now global. No worries in that sense. We recently took a iPhone X 256gb for 1200 USD from apple store. The difference in the price with respect to India was close to 25,000 INR
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Time to move to Android, folks!

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/tech...heres-why.html

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I am sure one of the parties will adjust or the deadline will keep deferring.

I would like to see TRAI having a last laugh here (not by banning iphones, but ensuring compliance), but you never know!

What I believe is - iPhones will not be banned in one of the largest mobile markets.

Probably, our country should think on the lines of GDPR if the policy makers are seriously interested in protecting privacy. A number shared at one location, ending up at 9 different, without consent, is a serious problem.

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Is this the way the replacement device works through Apple India? Any way to figure out it's not a used piece/refurbished piece?


Appreciate a quick revert from anybody who knows how the apple device replacement works in India.

Yes. They just replace the device and you are still in possession of the old box. There is a replacement slip handed over with old and new IMEI mentioned. So, you are good to go with this awesome deal.



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I will buy the new 3310 Nokia ( Amazing form factor the new one has) and use my iphone as an iPod like the good ole days.

Nothing like this will happen though. Remember in the past, they were again threatened to be shut out for not giving a backdoor to law enforcement agencies in India. Guess some work around will be arrived at.
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Am sure Apple will shut shop in India than give into the TRAI threats. Apple takes customer privacy seriously, and if they break it, it would affect the trust it has for its customers back in the US, which is its largest market. After all India is still a low volume market for them.
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Am sure Apple will shut shop in India than give into the TRAI threats. Apple takes customer privacy seriously, and if they break it, it would affect the trust it has for its customers back in the US, which is its largest market. After all India is still a low volume market for them.
Not really. They bowed down to Chinese. This is specific only to India and they wouldn't care for privacy or anything. Its business and sales at the end of day. They just dont want to give the impression that they gave in easily.
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I'd like to see how this pans out. Govt of India forcing us iPhone (& Android) users to install an app. At the end of the day it is my device and I decide what to install or uninstall.

Forcing Apple's hand will not be seen well from an investment POV either. All Apple needs to do is put the factory in Bangalore on the negotiating table and those TRAI bureaucrats will fall in line.
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Why they want to push that DND app? What if it wasn't my iPhone. What if I use a Nokia 3310? They want me to install the app on that too? So they will ban basic phones too?

Since last one month, I have been getting 2-3 calls daily from investment firms from Indore/ MP. All callers take a different name of organization when they call. I am tired of all this despite my number is DnD registered. Earlier, I used to blast them on phone, now I see no use in wasting my time as these calls are not from a single firm. Now I just cut the line and block the number. I have blocked at least 30-40 numbers in recent days.
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The central DND registry is piss poor to begin with.

I steadfastly refuse to hand out my cellphone number to all and sundry (even the on-campus tea vendor has a loyalty program now), but the volume of spam in the last 2-3 years has still been mind-boggling. No amount for reporting violations or blocking numbers helps.

Who's to say the app itself wouldn't be a huge security risk?
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The central DND registry is piss poor to begin with.

I steadfastly refuse to hand out my cellphone number to all and sundry (even the on-campus tea vendor has a loyalty program now), but the volume of spam in the last 2-3 years has still been mind-boggling. No amount for reporting violations or blocking numbers helps.

Who's to say the app itself wouldn't be a huge security risk?
Just another point of view. There are apps such as truecaller which has now amassed a database of spammers. Cant TRAI work with providers such as those to get data. Although i wonder, if we can subscribe to Truecaller and share our caller data, why wouldnt we want to do the same with TRAI's DND. And if Apple doesnt want to open up their ecosystem, consumerism should push them to do so at least

Overall, a phenomenal mess or an item which will soon fizzle out
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Who's to say the app itself wouldn't be a huge security risk?
Very true. The security of such data is just a joke. And the word 'privacy' in this age is amusing and laughable.

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Although i wonder, if we can subscribe to Truecaller and share our caller data, why wouldnt we want to do the same with TRAI's DND. And if Apple doesnt want to open up their ecosystem, consumerism should push them to do so at least
If you've been using the iOS, then you might have noticed that truecaller doesn't run on iOS the way if works on Androids. Apple doesn't give access to the app to the calls, so no real time tracking of incoming calls.

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Overall, a phenomenal mess or an item which will soon fizzle out
Yes it will. I don't think iPhones will stop working in India. Neither the giant will pull out. And Apple giving access of calls data to TRAI, hmmm, then goodluck to TRAI. I do not see that happening personally looking at Apple's track record.
Where the solution lies, I do not know but the above is what I feel.

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