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BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Delhi
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A few of my friends are using the iPhone 7 and its in call volume is terrible! You can't hear anything ! however hard your press the phone in your ear. They use headsets for calling all the time. My biggest gripe with Iphone 11 and XR is that they have very very poor noise isolation. The other person on call can hear everything going on your background (people talking, TV radio, Traffic). I can't believe why apple cannot fix it. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Delhi
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Newbie Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: PUNE
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| ![]() I dont understand why people criticise Apple for incremental changes over 12. Do you think that is their target market? you should be environment friendly and should change phones only when it is no longer properly usable. I have been using iPhone X for 4 yrs and for me an upgrade to 13 Pro Max will be a huge one. But why are you expecting a huge upgrade from 12 Pro to 13 Pro. Are you going to change phone every year? If yes you already dont care of features, you just need latest. |
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BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore
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PLease get your phone checked, my wife uses a 11 and I haven’t faced such issues on calls with her, excellent clarity ! |
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BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne
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I am only saying that we dont live in Utopia. Last edited by extreme_torque : 17th September 2021 at 12:33. | ||||||
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BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: Delhi
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I have four iphones 11(2),XR,12 in my circle all purchased at different times/different places(Countries)and all have poor noise cancelling in calls. Pardon me, but maybe you are used to it by now, or usually your wife is in a quiet area when you call her. I used a pixel 2XL earlier and its noise isolation was excellent! No one ever complained me about people talking/traffic/music in the background. In my experience Noise cancellation/isolation On a scale from 1 to 10 Pixel 2 XL: 8 iphoneXR/11/12 : 2 | ||
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| ![]() Quote: Even if I make use of GST credit and discount looking at paying about 1.05 Lakhs for the new 256 GB 13 Pro Vs US price converted would be still about 88k. Let's say I manage to sell the old phone for 40k, still paying 60k for the device in India. For:
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Apple care and the phone accessories though looks trivial, would have been a decision changer for me when am paying big bucks I feel... In short first time since I moved to iPhone, I don't feel that YOLO or special feeling towards the new iPhone... I think I will just wait for another year or more.. | |
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BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: MEL & MAA
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| ![]() I usually upgrade every other generation (or so) and think I'm going to be passing on the 13 as well. Very happy with my 11 Pro Max. The cameras are still top notch and keeps me wanting for nothing. Maybe we get a notchl-free phone next year... |
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BHPian ![]() Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Terra
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![]() All the above points do not refute the premise that Apple is greedy. They are just very well positioned and deeply entrenched into the consumer mind space to get away with those fat margins. Desirable products certainly do help. Why do you think iPhones retain more value in the used market? People are willing to pay higher prices. Why? Because brand cachet and desirability. Apple products might as well qualify as veblen goods. Quote:
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Other companies see Apple raking in fat profits and think they too can with their iclone and that starts the chain of me-too products which are nowhere near as good as Apple's. These lower quality products get disposed off more frequently generating more waste. Being green and virtue signalling isn't profitable so everyone loses due to precedents set by Apple. Quote:
Tl;DR: Apple is a very efficient and well oiled profit generating machine (greedy) that can get away with charging big bucks because of the cachet of the brand they have built and the consumer mind space they occupy. As the judge in the Epic Vs Apple suit observed - it is not illegal to be successful. But it also falls on Apple to not exploit their position of power, but who am I kidding, that won't make the shareholders happy. Maybe there will be stronger competition someday or consumers might decide that Apple has too much influence over them. One can hope, surely. Last edited by Electromotive : 17th September 2021 at 13:49. | ||||
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Even if everyone could afford to upgrade phones every year, I don't see the reason why they should do that. I know some cousins/friends who have a different phone in their hands every few months! When I ask them about their old phone, they always say: "I sold it for a good price". I have no idea why they do that. Mobiles like Cars are meant to be used for a long time unless one absolutely needs to upgrade and not to show off. |
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BHPian Join Date: May 2021 Location: Jorhat
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You're right about the video and refresh rates . But I think iPhone also have their fair shares of screen problems (OLED). Who doesn't? | |
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BHPian ![]() Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Trivandrum
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Nobody would buy Apple products if they weren't good and is simply being greedy. They do provide you the value, hence you buy it. Total cost of ownership of buying an using an iPhone is much lower than buying and using Android phones. I have a colleague who bought a BMW X1 while still using a Samsung M series phone. People have different tastes and aspirations. If I were a bachelor now, I would have been buying a new phone every other month. Actually, I sometimes thing about becoming a phone reviewer so that I buy and use as many phones as I like. | |
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BHPian ![]() Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Terra
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Why do you think laws against monopolies/cartels/price fixing exist? Is it to prevent companies from doing fair business? Of course not, it is to prevent companies from exploiting their position in the market and filling their coffers at the expense of others. In other words, those laws exist to prevent companies from getting too greedy. Some greed is good, a lot of it leads to disasters. Last edited by Electromotive : 17th September 2021 at 14:22. | |
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BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne
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I want to ask you though, why do you think AirPods are so successful even though they were maligned by the so called tech press for how they looked and the other's never saw the need for coming up with such a product? Quote:
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