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Old 26th October 2017, 00:34   #26596
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I am not trying to argue with you and In-fact I was happy that you were refunded. I can see the below mentioned in Flipkart though I am not sure when it was added.

Operating Frequency
GSM - 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; WCDMA - 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G LTE (TDD) - B40, LTE (FDD) - B3 / B5
Just a point that it's crazy to expect customers to look at all these before buying.

They have surely added this info recently, probably after my case. Because I had a screenshot of their spec list which I used as proof.

Also, what's the difference between TDD & FDD ? Because vodafone uses band 1 & 41, and while hunting phones I came across phones supporting band 1 but not 41. Will Vodafone 4g still work on it?
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With the last update recieved on phone, the cameras are performing way better than they originally did. Not at S8/+ or Note8 levels, but, at 75% capacity.

I'd suggest wait for One Plus 5T.
Thanks for this Dinesh. The S7 edge has a brilliant camera (the same hardware as the S8) and so I suppose it'll be a downgrade to get the G6. The V30 seems to be stuck with a ton of problems and I'm tired of Samsung phones that eventually start to fall apart in terms of performance and battery life.

I've seen a drop of 30% in battery performance and a number of slowdowns in my 6 month old S7 edge, which is my second S7 (sold the first one as it had serious battery problems and got the edge because of the larger cell).

My requirements are amazing camera, ip rating and expandable storage. Preferably with a 3.5mm headphone jack to plug my excellent Seinheisser ear buds. Bluetooth is not yet up to speed, in my opinion.
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Old 26th October 2017, 08:50   #26598
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Also, what's the difference between TDD & FDD ? Because vodafone uses band 1 & 41, and while hunting phones I came across phones supporting band 1 but not 41. Will Vodafone 4g still work on it?
I am not an expert in telecom, but TDD is time division duplex and FDD is frequency division duplex.

From a common man's perspective, TDD - Only Jio uses this in India and this uses 4G LTE for both calls and data which we also call as VoLTE - Voice over LTE and native video calling with ViLTE - Video over LTE. This is the reason for the excellent call quality with VoLTE. Calls connect almost instantly and in most cases there are no call drops. VoLTE to VoLTE voice calls are of a different level.

FDD networks - Use 4G LTE only for data and 3G/2G for calls. Call quality is not good, takes beep beep beep to establish call connections. There are call drops now and then.
Advantages is if there isn't any 4G coverage you can still manage with 3G/2G for emergency data and voice.

Where did you see Vodafone uses B41 ? It seems like a TDD band which Vodafone has not officially launched yet. I have not faced any issues with Redmi 4 on Vodafone and Jio from the frequency band support perspective and you should be good.

Probably Vodafone plans to launch VoLTE in Band 41 but that should take some time.

https://www.gsmarena.com/network-ban...sCountry=India

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Old 27th October 2017, 12:02   #26599
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Anybody updated their Nexus to Android 8.1 dev preview? I enrolled my device for the beta program, but the system update still shows 8.0 as the latest version. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
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Anybody updated their Nexus to Android 8.1 dev preview? I enrolled my device for the beta program, but the system update still shows 8.0 as the latest version. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
Do you have one of these devices?

Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel C, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL?

As far as I know, 8.1 supports these are the devices that are currently supported.

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Do you have one of these devices?

Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Pixel C, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL?

As far as I know, 8.1 supports these are the devices that are currently supported.
Oh, sorry for not mentioning that. Mine is a Nexus 5X, and the enroll page of the beta program shows my device. Just that the actual phone does not seem to play along.
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Oh, sorry for not mentioning that. Mine is a Nexus 5X, and the enroll page of the beta program shows my device. Just that the actual phone does not seem to play along.
OK. Your phone should enroll to the beta program.

Typically, you should see an update being pushed to your phone. I have seen delays of 24 hours as well.

It may help if you could manually check for system updates, periodically.

A word of caution: Ensure that your phone is backed up as often as possible (once a day, probably in the night) when you are on beta versions, if you have data that you don't want to lose.
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Also, what's the difference between TDD & FDD ? Because vodafone uses band 1 & 41, and while hunting phones I came across phones supporting band 1 but not 41. Will Vodafone 4g still work on it?
Yes, the phones should work in places where Vodafone provides LTE service in Band 1.

There are basic differences (in the radio) between FDD and TDD. So mobiles supporting only FDD will not be able to access TDD network and vice-versa.

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From a common man's perspective, TDD - Only Jio uses this in India and this uses 4G LTE for both calls and data which we also call as VoLTE

FDD networks - Use 4G LTE only for data and 3G/2G for calls.
Jio is an LTE-only network, so they offer VoLTE (no other way to support voice calls). Other operators have existing 2G/3G infrastructure, so they use those for voice calls, keeping LTE networks exclusively for data services. It is purely operator's decision, nothing to do with FDD or TDD.
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Few days back, I was transferring pics from my camera folder to a different folder. I usually go by the copy and paste method and later delete the original files.

This time, I ended up doing a cut and paste job. Only 410 out of 1227 files were transferred in. It was as if the remaining files vanished into thin air

As my phone is rooted, I tried Undeleter app. I've this habit of clicking multiples pics instead of just one (guess, it helped) and could recover most of the missing pictures.

Life Pro Tips :

- Always copy and paste the files. Have read many instances of missing files during cut and paste job (still I wonder how I goofed up that day)

- Maintain at least one back up. After disconnecting our shared UL BB, I stopped backing up the files to cloud storage. Learnt the lesson the hard way

Google Photos offer free unlimited high quality (not original quality though) photos and videos storage.
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- Maintain at least one back up.
I sync the files on the phone to the PC every couple of days. It is automatic: as long as I am at home (wifi) and the PC is on, it will happen.

App used: Foldersync
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Re: Android Thread: Phones / Apps / Mods

I have a technical question about Android phones.

When the manufacturers release OTA updates and new versions of Android, does the Firmware/Driver of a component, for example the Modem or GPS also get updated ? If this is true then does it also get downgraded to the previous version if you roll back the Android update ?

Im asking because after the Nougat update my Oneplus 3 has very poor connectivity, especially with WiFi the range has has dropped significantly. I was wondering if things would improve if I rolled back to Marshmallow or if I stuck with the upgraded version of the modem firmware
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Old 30th October 2017, 11:38   #26607
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Jio is an LTE-only network, so they offer VoLTE (no other way to support voice calls). Other operators have existing 2G/3G infrastructure, so they use those for voice calls, keeping LTE networks exclusively for data services. It is purely operator's decision, nothing to do with FDD or TDD.
Thanks. As I already mentioned I am not an expert and I stand corrected.
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Where did you see Vodafone uses B41 ? It seems like a TDD band which Vodafone has not officially launched yet. I have not faced any issues with Redmi 4 on Vodafone and Jio from the frequency band support perspective and you should be good.
I was informed of this by the Mi support team that Vodafone changed their bands to 1 & 41
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Yes, the phones should work in places where Vodafone provides LTE service in Band 1.

There are basic differences (in the radio) between FDD and TDD. So mobiles supporting only FDD will not be able to access TDD network and vice-versa.
Finally, I decided to just buy a phone that supports both Band 1 & 41. Hence went ahead and booked the Mi A1. Now awaiting delivery.
The compromise I made was the MIUI that I got so used to, for the stock Android + 2 year upgrade promise (guaranteed upgrade to Android P) + timely security upgrades.
Will be using the stock android for the first time. Let see.
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Be aware of the app VivaVideo, free or paid.

It installs a malware that monitors your calls; acts as a caller ID app. Flawed app which will cause a major nuisance when you are in a call and another call comes in.

Developer has promised to release a new version making this "feature" optional. Till then, be careful.
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I dropped my S7 edge on the road while getting out of my car and the screen developed a thin crack. The display was intact and one couldn't feel the crack but it was there. My phone is in it's last month of warranty, infact its valid only till November 2nd. I remembered Samsung's offer of changing the display in the first year for only Rs. 990. Hence took the phone to the service centre and it was a very pleasant experience. They have dedicated counters for the higher end phones. Showed them the bill and the screen was changed without any questions in half an hour. I opted for an extended warranty for Rs. 3k ( original cost is 4k but there is some Diwali promotion going on apparently). This is provided by Samsung and it covers any damage other than physical and due to water. All in all really happy with the whole experience and needless to say thanking my stars that it happened while the phone was still under original warranty.

Now looking to put a good screen guard and back cover. Any pointers?
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