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| ![]() My B-I-L is on the lookout for an Android Phone. Requirement is good GPS, intensive email usage, Speakerphone, good battery life (at least a day or more) He has a year old HTC incredible S which has conked off. So he doesn't want to go for HTC again. Android preferred. He is not much into rooting and upgrading ROM. Will be on stock for the major part. Any suggestions? |
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So I really meant 'not satisfactory' in that context. | ||
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But patents are non tarrif trade barriers US is using them perticularly in pharma and technology sector to maintain it's lead. Apple is granted patents on things which seem to violate first principle of the patent that claim should be non obvious. Have a look at this one (U.S. Patent No. 8,248,777) which was granted last week to Apple by US patent office This is for an viscoelastic material to reduce shock on the mobile device. In simple words they have patented placing a rubber gasket put on the bezel to reduce shock. But is this not something found around every windshield in automobile for last 100 years to reduce shocks ( vibrations) ? Even mobile phones / watches / Cameras which are made water/shock proof use a rubber gasket. So after 2/3 years when Apple will sue others who tries to make a waterproof /shockproof device and at that time if someone will post that Samsung had a Samsung Marine phone ages ago which used to have rubber gaskets and O rings for water/shock proofing it will look like a made up story Here is the original link to this patent from US PTO United States Patent: 8248777 This is not only instance on 22 Jan 2002 they got a patent for transfer of telecommunication commands between Modem and AP using DMA data transfer. Trust me every phone was dual processer since ages and they used a shared memory to transfer data between processors including modem commands , Even before this Nortel switchs from 70s used to be multiprocessor systems with DMA for sending communication between various nodes. Apple got injuction against HTC for this very patent violation from US court. Last edited by amitk26 : 28th August 2012 at 17:27. | |
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Well, one weak point that I thought would be resolved by now is the call reception and voice quality. I am not happy to hear that 2012 models still have the same issue. Do they provide software to sync/ backup with the computer via USB/ BlueTooth? I hope they don't expect users to use the age old PC Companion software. | |
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I dont know why phone makers are not putting a solar panel on the phone display (atleast behind it). Why are they waiting for Apple to do it first? When Apple patents it, everyone will complain on what so ingenious about it. This is just an example. Apple is successfully integrating existing technologies into a package and others are following it. They might introduce the touch logic embedded in the LCD on iphone5 too and will probably get it from one of the Android phone manufacturers. it I find that being useless as big manufacturers who themselves patent numerous (and frivolous) things. But I guess these are OT here and am out of this. Last edited by srishiva : 28th August 2012 at 18:35. | |
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| ![]() Just spent a few days in Singapore. On putting a local SIM into my Defy+ I was horrified to find that I had to enter my motoblur password before the phone would open up to me. Password? No idea. Luckily I had web access and my gmail password, and was able to get around that. Having forgotten all that, exactly the same thing happened to me at Chennai aiport on way home. Oh, what an utter pain! At least, this time, I only had to unpack the password when I got home. It is a good thing I didn't need urgent phone use before then. How to dump this Motoblur thing? I was not thinking of flashing anything else other than the standard system. At least I don't travel or otherwise change SIMs very often, but that also means that I'll have forgotten this next time I do, and it'll catch me out again. ![]() |
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Similarly Coltan is a miniral mined in Central Africa which is used in SSD used in electronics this was threatening habitet of Gorillas. Samsung came up with Green SSD without Coltan. Similarly Nokia was pioneer in packet based video much before facetime. Company which is in forefront of mobile cloud is not Apple with iCloud but company infamous for not innovating that is microsoft with Azure and office 360. Point is that not every company realized the benifit constant innovation propoganda and also they did not know power of advertising through news and making news by suing. Apple has innovated definatly in this regard. Quote:
I hope you do know that basic condition of patent is it should not be obvious to person well versed in the art. Actually speaking last year injuction against HTC was really shocking because it was for a technology patent which is basis of multiprocessor computer system since 70s and earliest multi processor systems were telecom equipments so patent was for 20year old existing art. Last edited by amitk26 : 28th August 2012 at 20:25. | |||
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Second reason is markt did not incentivise these products though they were not costly. | |
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ITs a very obvious design. Apple is taking obvious things, adding "on a touch screen device". Another case is slide to unlock. Slide to unlock bolts have been there probably as long as the wheel. Just because its a touchscreen device, its a new patent. Imagine if Apple was a car company. Their first patent would be "Design of a round cylinderical shape, to permit a container to move with propulsan". So they would patent the "application" of a wheel in an automobile, and then complain. Why did samsung not use square wheels, and their fanboys will scream in unision | |
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Whether Apple should have been granted patents is immaterial. Even if it's argued that they should not have been granted the patents Samsung ought to have raised the issue. Samsung either did not counter sue or counter sued and did not succeed. So however much people here may dislike Apple (myself included), they won this fair & square. | |
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I would say Apple won is square but not fair. US courts, US company fighting against a non American company, and we don't have to guess who would win knowing American mentality. | |
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| ![]() Ah, that's just your prejudice. Vodafone recently won a multi billion dollar tax appeal in the Indian Supreme Court - against the mighty Government of India, no less. You'll find instances of foreign companies winning law suits in US Courts. Business as usual. |
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| ![]() Ya I agree it could just be my assumption but this is what is being discussed across all threads to, so I am not the only one talking about this. |
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