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binz · 8th December 2005, 17:20

Hey guys,
my exams are getting over tomorrow and was planning on getting the latest edition of need for speed(i.e.most wanted).The problem here is that i know the game will have some serious graphics and that will lead to my comp lagging considerably.I have the onboard graphics which is ati radeon 200 which is not sufficient.Could you guys give me tips in overclocking the cpu-athlon 64 3000+ on an rs480m mobo.Anyone who has some experiance in overclocking please shed some light on this

binz

falcon · 8th December 2005, 17:26

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Originally Posted by binz

I have the onboard graphics which is ati radeon 200 which is not sufficient.Could you guys give me tips in overclocking the cpu-athlon 64 3000+ on an rs480m mobo.

Hi binz,

A word of caution when overclocking an AMD cpu... they do tend to run pretty hot, hope your PC has an additional Cabinet cooling fan to help it stay cool.
If the temp goes too high, I think Athlon is designed such that it will automatic slow down to protect itself rather than overheat and shutdown + hang the OS...

Falcon.

binz · 8th December 2005, 17:30

I agree...but overheating happens mostly when you overclock intel processors....amds are great overclockers and ya i have the extra cabinet fan

binz

karthik247 · 9th December 2005, 01:31

Don't overclock it too much, it'll just heat up and reduce ur performance. I use AMD too, and there isn't much of a difference in overclocking. Try to get more ram and a good AGP card.

And why r u over clocking, Most Wanted should run fine on AMD 3000+ 64bit if u have atleast 512mb ram and a 128AGP.

binz · 9th December 2005, 07:43

the prob is that i am using the onboard graphics,i hae 1gb of ram out of which 128 is alloted to the onboard graphics(the default being 64mb)
please help me guys,

binz

karthik247 · 9th December 2005, 08:02

Which onboard graphics do u have? If it is the nVidia FX series, which i doubt it'll be...u can over clock it. And u'll need atleast a proper 128mb AGP to play it properly.

jkdas · 9th December 2005, 10:56

spend 3k, get 128mb agp with 8x support.

whats ur ddr? 333MHz or 400MHz or 800MHz? If you mobo supports 800, get 512MB with 800MHz ddr.

dogdiga · 9th December 2005, 11:23

With the MSI rs480m mb, i don't think overclocking from the BIOS is a possibility. You've gotta do it with a 3rd party software. Instead, you have a PCI-Express 16x slot on it. Go ahead and buy a PCI-Ex card and the results will be worth it. Also, if you have a spare monitor, you can pair the on board and the new graphics card and get a really killer, wide display spread across 2 monitors obviuosly.

jkdas · 9th December 2005, 14:34

yup, get a PCI Express card ( forget the agp cards), 512MB/1GB 400MHz DDR and you will be a lot happier!

binz · 9th December 2005, 22:07

Thanks guys for the prompt replies.
Karthik247-the onboard graphics is an ati radeon 200.
jkdas-the ddr(for the ram atleast)is 400Mhz
dogdiga-I will wait for my dad to pick some pci-e card from dubai.Till then could you give me the details of any third party software.
jkdas-i already have 1gb of ddr ram at 400MHz.
now till i buy the card,any suggestions on how to overclock the cpu.

binz
Ps-the comp plays games like san andreas very well.How is the new nfs compared to this.

karthik247 · 9th December 2005, 22:10

If ur over clocking the CPU to get better graphics, i don't think it'll help. The GeForce FX 5200 128mb costs Rs.2200. It should be enough to play most of the latest games which high graphics

nitrous · 9th December 2005, 23:19

IMO, try to get a good PCIE card. Its all u need to spend for the NFS:MW. U'r rig with 3000+ and 1 GB DDR400 is perfect just waiting for that good PCIE. I suggest u go for a Leadtek 128MB PCIe 6600 TD. Its like 5900 bucks. Awesome graphics,man.

Ford Rocam · 9th December 2005, 23:27

No need to overclock it You have MSI rs480 Board which operates at 1000 Mhz FSB It has Pci Xpress Slot too ,Just add a good PCi Xpress card with atleast 256 mb ram theres plenty available in market,Do Post if you need some more info about which card to go in for.

tsk1979 · 10th December 2005, 00:23

binz, I have tried overclocking on AMD. Its not too difficult, and as long as you have alarms in place(Automatic shutdown in case temp above 75 degrees) its safe.
But its not going to help you much. In case of gaming when you use any Engine such as OpenGL or DirectX, it runs directly off the graphics card GPU. So you need a better graphics card.

Of course you can overclock your graphics card and wring out 10-20% better framerates, but its not recommemded.

As for you CPU 3000+ is more than enough for any game presently available, including the much dreaded(Resource wise) Doom3. I suggest get a better card like the nvidia FX. you can get a resonably good card for 8-10K. Also get around 1GB of ram. 512 is bare minimum you must have to ensure good gameplay.

jkdas · 10th December 2005, 00:26

Ask him to get a PCI Exp. card with X700 or X800 chipset with 256MB to sort you graphic problem.

for overclocking...
http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=933&page=4

and hope ur mobo supports overclocking. Please see its manual.

Pros overclock teh chips but they do have very good cooling system (water cooled etc.) and I hope you have seen some in various websites.

8th December 2005, 17:20	#1
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Post all Overclocking queries here Hey guys, my exams are getting over tomorrow and was planning on getting the latest edition of need for speed(i.e.most wanted).The problem here is that i know the game will have some serious graphics and that will lead to my comp lagging considerably.I have the onboard graphics which is ati radeon 200 which is not sufficient.Could you guys give me tips in overclocking the cpu-athlon 64 3000+ on an rs480m mobo.Anyone who has some experiance in overclocking please shed some light on this binz
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8th December 2005, 17:30	#3
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	I agree...but overheating happens mostly when you overclock intel processors....amds are great overclockers and ya i have the extra cabinet fan binz
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9th December 2005, 01:31	#4
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Don't overclock it too much, it'll just heat up and reduce ur performance. I use AMD too, and there isn't much of a difference in overclocking. Try to get more ram and a good AGP card. And why r u over clocking, Most Wanted should run fine on AMD 3000+ 64bit if u have atleast 512mb ram and a 128AGP.
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9th December 2005, 07:43	#5
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	the prob is that i am using the onboard graphics,i hae 1gb of ram out of which 128 is alloted to the onboard graphics(the default being 64mb) please help me guys, binz
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9th December 2005, 08:02	#6
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Which onboard graphics do u have? If it is the nVidia FX series, which i doubt it'll be...u can over clock it. And u'll need atleast a proper 128mb AGP to play it properly.
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9th December 2005, 10:56	#7
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	spend 3k, get 128mb agp with 8x support. whats ur ddr? 333MHz or 400MHz or 800MHz? If you mobo supports 800, get 512MB with 800MHz ddr.
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9th December 2005, 11:23	#8
dogdiga BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 74 Thanked: 0 Times	With the MSI rs480m mb, i don't think overclocking from the BIOS is a possibility. You've gotta do it with a 3rd party software. Instead, you have a PCI-Express 16x slot on it. Go ahead and buy a PCI-Ex card and the results will be worth it. Also, if you have a spare monitor, you can pair the on board and the new graphics card and get a really killer, wide display spread across 2 monitors obviuosly.
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9th December 2005, 14:34	#9
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	yup, get a PCI Express card ( forget the agp cards), 512MB/1GB 400MHz DDR and you will be a lot happier!
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9th December 2005, 22:07	#10
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Thanks guys for the prompt replies. Karthik247-the onboard graphics is an ati radeon 200. jkdas-the ddr(for the ram atleast)is 400Mhz dogdiga-I will wait for my dad to pick some pci-e card from dubai.Till then could you give me the details of any third party software. jkdas-i already have 1gb of ddr ram at 400MHz. now till i buy the card,any suggestions on how to overclock the cpu. binz Ps-the comp plays games like san andreas very well.How is the new nfs compared to this.
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9th December 2005, 22:10	#11
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	If ur over clocking the CPU to get better graphics, i don't think it'll help. The GeForce FX 5200 128mb costs Rs.2200. It should be enough to play most of the latest games which high graphics
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9th December 2005, 23:19	#12
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	IMO, try to get a good PCIE card. Its all u need to spend for the NFS:MW. U'r rig with 3000+ and 1 GB DDR400 is perfect just waiting for that good PCIE. I suggest u go for a Leadtek 128MB PCIe 6600 TD. Its like 5900 bucks. Awesome graphics,man.
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9th December 2005, 23:27	#13
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	No need to overclock it You have MSI rs480 Board which operates at 1000 Mhz FSB It has Pci Xpress Slot too ,Just add a good PCi Xpress card with atleast 256 mb ram theres plenty available in market,Do Post if you need some more info about which card to go in for.
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10th December 2005, 00:23	#14
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	binz, I have tried overclocking on AMD. Its not too difficult, and as long as you have alarms in place(Automatic shutdown in case temp above 75 degrees) its safe. But its not going to help you much. In case of gaming when you use any Engine such as OpenGL or DirectX, it runs directly off the graphics card GPU. So you need a better graphics card. Of course you can overclock your graphics card and wring out 10-20% better framerates, but its not recommemded. As for you CPU 3000+ is more than enough for any game presently available, including the much dreaded(Resource wise) Doom3. I suggest get a better card like the nvidia FX. you can get a resonably good card for 8-10K. Also get around 1GB of ram. 512 is bare minimum you must have to ensure good gameplay.
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10th December 2005, 00:26	#15
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Ask him to get a PCI Exp. card with X700 or X800 chipset with 256MB to sort you graphic problem. for overclocking... http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=933&page=4 and hope ur mobo supports overclocking. Please see its manual. Pros overclock teh chips but they do have very good cooling system (water cooled etc.) and I hope you have seen some in various websites.
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