Blackberry Phones and Services in India

Rahulkool · 21st November 2015, 10:28

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Originally Posted by mobike008

I know that iPhone has push email as I have 4 email accounts ( 2 official and 2 personal) configured on my iphone. However, the emails don't reach as fast as a blackberry (as a comparison)

I am not sure what do you mean by fast but i just checked from my laptop and as soon as i click on send within 2-3 secs there is a notification on the phone. AFAIK all notifications on iphone works the same way, ie pushed from apple servers. A email is pushed to the phone same way a whats app message notification would. Only the corresponding app and format will be different. When i used to use gmail app on my iphone the mails always appeared first on phone then on gmail . There wasn't massive delay but it always showed first on phone. I am not using gmail now on iphone so not sure. If there is delay in email, it would be from the email servers. In blackberry's case i think mails are routed through their server so that delay will not be there.

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Originally Posted by kkkkkaran

Iphones dont support push for google based mail services. Ive been using the gmail app for my personal and college google mail.

I have used it extensively till one year back and mails were always pushed to the phone first and as i said earlier than gmail web.

IIRC If you use the stock email app from iphone then push option will not be there for gmail. But if you use gmail app then emails will be always pushed to phone as soon as you get them. You have set the notifications for gmail app in settings.

Chetan_Rao · 21st November 2015, 13:53

NOTE: I had this conversation with a mobile email techie a couple years ago so my comment may be redundant with recent tech advances.

According to him, Blackberry uses real push on its email service via its dedicated servers for the final server-to-device delivery step (BES for Enterprise email), while most other OSes use what he called an aggressive pull/fetch algorithm, even if the feature was called 'Push' on the device/OS itself. This effectively means the device is constantly polling (in Push mode) the email server for updates, instead of relying on the server to push the email out for delivery. It may be impossible to tell the difference based simply on delivery times alone, as aggressive polling can sometimes be as fast as push based on network connectivity/availability. Needless to mention, this mode was (and continues to be) a battery hogger (personal experience on Android, no first hand experience on iDevices), esp. if the device is not on a strong/stable data connection.

Again, the info may be redundant or totally incorrect, so make what you will of it.

kkkkkaran · 21st November 2015, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Rahulkool

IIRC If you use the stock email app from iphone then push option will not be there for gmail. But if you use gmail app then emails will be always pushed to phone as soon as you get them. You have set the notifications for gmail app in settings.

That is exactly what i meant, seems i skipped typing that part.
The stock mail service does not support push for gmail. But, the gmail app is a little slow, reloads everytime, and also keeps crashing for me,on both,my stock ipad air on ios 9.1 and my jailbroken iphone 6.

Rahulkool · 21st November 2015, 16:57

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Originally Posted by kkkkkaran

That is exactly what i meant, seems i skipped typing that part.
The stock mail service does not support push for gmail. But, the gmail app is a little slow, reloads everytime, and also keeps crashing for me,on both,my stock ipad air on ios 9.1 and my jailbroken iphone 6.

Never had any problem with gmail app on iphone and ipad. works perfectly fine.

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Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

NOTE: I had this conversation with a mobile email techie a couple years ago so my comment may be redundant with recent tech advances.

According to him, Blackberry uses real push on its email service via its dedicated servers for the final server-to-device delivery step (BES for Enterprise email), while most other OSes use what he called an aggressive pull/fetch algorithm, even if the feature was called 'Push' on the device/OS itself. This effectively means the device is constantly polling (in Push mode) the email server for updates, instead of relying on the server to push the email out for delivery. It may be impossible to tell the difference based simply on delivery times alone, as aggressive polling can sometimes be as fast as push based on network connectivity/availability. Needless to mention, this mode was (and continues to be) a battery hogger (personal experience on Android, no first hand experience on iDevices), esp. if the device is not on a strong/stable data connection.

Again, the info may be redundant or totally incorrect, so make what you will of it.

Android or Iphone, there is real push mail/notification. Without this instant messaging services will never work.

Android the mails or any notifications are pushed from the corresponding server itself. In iphone all notifications are pushed from apple servers.

StarScream · 21st November 2015, 20:50

I've sort of decided - I'll wait for the Priv to be launched and maybe for the Mashmallow update. If problems flagged by some reviewers persist, I'll go for an iPhone plus. I saw a colleague's 6+ and liked the size and heft.

roamer · 12th January 2016, 09:59

Have a Z10 100-3, an US version. I was going through online markets for an additional battery. Now I want to know whether the Z10 battery is a standard type for all phone versions? As am sure all batteries being sold will be compatible with indian version which is 100- 1.

roamer · 13th February 2016, 09:44

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Originally Posted by roamer

Have a Z10 100-3, an US version. I was going through online markets for an additional battery. Now I want to know whether the Z10 battery is a standard type for all phone versions? As am sure all batteries being sold will be compatible with indian version which is 100- 1.

Edit: it works. Got a Rs 350 battery from ebay. Its giving good backup. Now with portable battery charger, I can just swap batteries and good to go.

khoj · 13th February 2016, 19:01

I am looking for the same, can you share the ebay link

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Originally Posted by roamer

Edit: it works. Got a Rs 350 battery from ebay. Its giving good backup. Now with portable battery charger, I can just swap batteries and good to go.

roamer · 14th February 2016, 15:17

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Originally Posted by khoj

I am looking for the same, can you share the ebay link

The listing of the same showing ended now. Seller was rehmetstore from mumbai . But there are lot of sellers, if you search LS1

HappyWheels · 4th April 2016, 13:51

Anyone here using the BB Priv?

trumpcard · 7th April 2016, 21:02

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Anyone here using the BB Priv?

Just got myself a private today, Do you also use one?

Turbanator · 7th April 2016, 21:27

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Anyone here using the BB Priv?

Yes for a while now , I got in December when I was in Canada. Its the longest time since I have not gone back to iPhone , perhaps something to do with clean BB interface , in past I had to gift / sell my Samsung phones in less than a week.

Despite the gimmicks of keyboard , its hardly usable - front speaker grill fouls with fingers / thumb , wish they had recessed it at level of keyboard besides its top heavy with extended keyboard. I am not sure if this is in anyway different over the regular androids and will it be good idea for someone to spend extra cash over S7 edge.

khoj · 9th April 2016, 01:27

Well, yes & no. Bought one the day it was launched but gave it to my Father who lost his BB Classic the same day and wanted a phone with a physical keyboard.

He hated the Android interface compared to the BB10 as he found it very cluttered but loved the crisp display. He has since migrating to the Priv stopped using the physical keyboard all together. Quite happy with the phone now, he is.

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

Anyone here using the BB Priv?

JonSnow · 9th April 2016, 02:02

Blackberry will be launching two more Android phones this year.

Source: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news...ear-ceo-823425

noopster · 9th April 2016, 09:18

After over 10 years of loyal service, BlackBerry is no longer my primary work phone. I used to love those handsets for the amazing battery life and the sheer convenience for typing email and for calling.

My company no longer has a contract with them and had replaced all official handsets with Samsung or Apple devices. I got a Samsung J7 which isn't bad at all. Still, feels like the end of an era. RIP my faithful work companion!

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Chetan_Rao Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,899 Thanked: 24,081 Times	Re: Blackberry Phones and Services in India NOTE: I had this conversation with a mobile email techie a couple years ago so my comment may be redundant with recent tech advances. According to him, Blackberry uses real push on its email service via its dedicated servers for the final server-to-device delivery step (BES for Enterprise email), while most other OSes use what he called an aggressive pull/fetch algorithm, even if the feature was called 'Push' on the device/OS itself. This effectively means the device is constantly polling (in Push mode) the email server for updates, instead of relying on the server to push the email out for delivery. It may be impossible to tell the difference based simply on delivery times alone, as aggressive polling can sometimes be as fast as push based on network connectivity/availability. Needless to mention, this mode was (and continues to be) a battery hogger (personal experience on Android, no first hand experience on iDevices), esp. if the device is not on a strong/stable data connection. Again, the info may be redundant or totally incorrect, so make what you will of it. Last edited by Chetan_Rao : 21st November 2015 at 14:06.
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StarScream Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Noida/Delhi Posts: 1,263 Thanked: 665 Times	Re: Blackberry Phones and Services in India I've sort of decided - I'll wait for the Priv to be launched and maybe for the Mashmallow update. If problems flagged by some reviewers persist, I'll go for an iPhone plus. I saw a colleague's 6+ and liked the size and heft.
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12th January 2016, 09:59	#4776
roamer BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 85 Thanked: 60 Times	Have a Z10 100-3, an US version. I was going through online markets for an additional battery. Now I want to know whether the Z10 battery is a standard type for all phone versions? As am sure all batteries being sold will be compatible with indian version which is 100- 1.
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HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,106 Thanked: 537 Times	Re: Blackberry Phones and Services in India Anyone here using the BB Priv?
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JonSnow BHPian Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 165 Thanked: 164 Times	Re: Blackberry Phones and Services in India Blackberry will be launching two more Android phones this year. Source: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news...ear-ceo-823425
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9th April 2016, 09:18	#4785
noopster Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 9,238 Thanked: 12,904 Times View My Garage	Re: Blackberry Phones and Services in India After over 10 years of loyal service, BlackBerry is no longer my primary work phone. I used to love those handsets for the amazing battery life and the sheer convenience for typing email and for calling. My company no longer has a contract with them and had replaced all official handsets with Samsung or Apple devices. I got a Samsung J7 which isn't bad at all. Still, feels like the end of an era. RIP my faithful work companion!
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