28th May 2009, 21:01 | #916 | |
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I will start by saying in all honesty that I am not a mobile phone dealer or anything, many members who know me personally from Pune know that I am crazy about BB's and I have always helped out anyone who has queries regarding berries over here and everywhere else, its my belief that this is something that I have knowledge of so I share and in return I got a lot of help when I was planning to buy tires, car etc from people who held knowledge of the same. I have sold many phones here and on other forums & websites as well. And I have never tried to cheat anyone and make a quick buck as its been said here. Instead of responding to Avinash I would rather tell you what happened, he had contacted me about buying a handset and asked a couple of questions regarding the BOLD, I answered them. He then asked me if mine was for sale, I said sure ill hand it down to you for 23k. We did some haggling and stuff but I was firm on my price, I threw in a EXTRA OEM holster for the BOLD. Instead of a discount. We agreed and I sent him my bank details so he could transfer the money. The money didnt come through for a couple of days and in between I had interactions with him he asked me how old is the handset and loads of other questions I told him that its a month old, then later I get a call saying that I have posted a pic of the BOLD on this thread x months back I go online and see its my old Vodafone BOLD which a t-bhp member from Mumbai bought off me. I told him that this is another one. Lots of "making sure" and "reassuring" calls from him later I get the money in my a/c and I go and send the phone at 10PM in the night because I didnt want it to get delayed. I get a call from him later and I am quoting exact words here "The phone is just like BRAND NEW" he thanks me and we're done. I always helped him with many things like apps to use and other stuff etc. One thing I remember that he said that the holster of the phone is tight, and because I had not used the holster at all I tell him that give it sometime and it will be ok. (Blackberry Holsters are a little tight when new and when worn in they are a perfect fit) One fine day he says that he had been to a t-bhp meet and he saw some other friends BOLD hoster was perfect fit and the one I sent was a lot smaller, so it stuck me and I said I must have sent him the Storm holster by mistake and request him that when I am back in Pune I will send him the correct one. In between there were many times we talked about OS upgrades. I got him support numbers and talked to RIM customer care as well. Instead of listening to me and calling them he goes to some dumb airtel guy who doesnt know anything and asks for 12k and go gurantees of repair? I mean what does that mean? The guy there had no idea what he was talking about and Avinash offloads on me. I take it all and kindly request him to go to the proper service centre/do a os upgrade and he doesnt listen. Infact when I enquired on the BB Support line they said it should get sorted out for like 800 bucks! And then he says he doesnt want the handset, and asks me to refund his money and I am like buddy I am not some dealer or anything I cant just take it back I can offer you a swap if you feel like I have cheated you I am using a BB 8900 bought officially for 27k and he wants a straight swap with a grey market bold. Which is obviously worth a lot less money and that too its develped issues. But I still am ready to do it for the guys sake. Because I knew I will somehow sort out the issues with the Bold and it will all be ok. But no money on top? What logic is that?? I disagree to that and then he starts threatning me with t-bhp, I am like ok buddy go right ahead if you feel that way. And then he starts abusing me till no end with the choicest words, here I tell him firmly never to contact me again. So what to take away from this is. He was looking for a deal and he haggled a lot, and searched a lot and could not find a bold for 23k or less. Thats why he bought from me. The phone was working fine (I was using it and my fellow t-bhpians always get my new pin when I change handsets and if it was having issues they would have known) The phone obviously has been dropped by him or the courier or I dont know. Or maybe its just a software issue but since he doesnt listen to me I could not help him out. I offered exchange, but he stopped talking sense and logic and started threatning and abusing to which there is no answer from my side. I was always polite and corteous. I did not cheat him or anyone. The only thing I did wrong was send the wrong holster (but I had sent 2 in the first place) and that I offered to exchange FOC. So considering I am not some kind of dealer thats a lot I offered him but nothing could ever satisfy him maybe. IN the end I will clearly state the phone is without any warrenties (its a grey market phone) and I offered him exchanges and still he cries foul, says a lot about the person and what he is trying to achieve from the thread. If the phone had issues as soon as he got it he would have mentioned it to me but it developed issues later, I tried to help, be nice, lose my own money for him and this is what I get. I was not threatned by him and have people standing by my side who will vouch for me and my ethics. I will continue to be on the thread and be as helpful as ever, and will take any questions from anyone regarding this transaction publicly or privately (if mods feel that way) Be careful people, lately I have been seeing that many folks are using t-bhp as a tool to defame people. | |
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28th May 2009, 21:42 | #917 | ||
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28th May 2009, 22:13 | #918 |
Distinguished - BHPian | Alright, we have a reply. [/i]I will respond later, have some office calls to attend. Last edited by Jaggu : 28th May 2009 at 23:09. Reason: Lets avoid name calling and direct personal attacks. You have been warned. Thanks |
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28th May 2009, 23:11 | #919 |
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You dont need any help from airtel for this, goto BB site and download the firmware for AT&T, thats all. Might work out, if there are some specific stuff for handsets produced for this region |
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28th May 2009, 23:34 | #920 |
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| today i went to Mobile hot spot to look out for blackberry handsets mainly BOLD and 8900 .Only javelin was present in stock for 27K box packed.when i saw box ,it was written original unlocked device ,will work with any carrier Vodafone,reliance,airtel.But also it was Made in Mexico and was with 1 yr warranty. Does BB handsets made in mexico are also authentic??? |
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28th May 2009, 23:39 | #921 | |
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29th May 2009, 00:18 | #922 | |||||||
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Like I mentioned before, i would have lived with scratches on phone, screen, keyboard issues but you expect me to live with not making and receiving a phone call? Quote:
Any query related to signal, you would always respond in the dead of the night. And, when i tried calling you, you would immediately hang up saying i am busy and will call you later. But, never called you. So getting hold of you for a proper conversation was impossible. What about the Bold cover? you have been promising to send it from last month and keep saying, i am on vacation and will send it when you return to pune. But,you have time to distribute your gyan on this thread almost DAILY ( i doubt if you really were on vacation to some place) but no time to send me the cover? I have sent a PM within the first week of getting the phone that it has signal issues. And, i never dropped the phone till date ( for that matter never dropped a phone in my life) and you casually ask me to go check with a BB center and they should resolve the issue? Did i buy the phone to run around BB centers? I expected a fully functional phone and not a faulty one. You should have highlighted this to me before you sold this and this situation would never have cropped up. Quote:
If you really meant what you were saying, you would have swapped your phone and if your behaviour was courteous, i may have even paid up a price in between the 6K you asked. But, you know how you behaved. Pay 6k along with the Bold or take a hike type of tone. Then i realized your intention was not correct in the first place. Quote:
2. I am not interested to know that all your past transactions have had a happy ending. Mine was nightmarish !!!!!!!!!! 3. As mentioned before, neither the package i received was un-opened nor have i dropped it once. If you wish to harp on this point to shy away from your guilt, feel free to do so. 4. I let the BB users on this thread answer this query. 2-month old BOLD + 6K = A used BB 8900. I dare someone to say this is a DECENT DEAL? Also if according to you the supposedly "developed signal issue" was so trivial and could have been fixed in Rs.800? why didn't you take it back for 20K or even I was to part with it for 19K? Quote:
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Closing words, I did not post my experience to :- 1. Defame Quickdraw 2. I outlined my experience with him to warn other potential buyers so they judge better before taking a plunge considering my completely unpleasant experience 3. I bought the phone to enjoy its experience not to defame the seller nor running around fixing its problem 4. Finally, whatever Quickdraw says maybe be fine with him. Ultimately, i am the one experiencing the issues and i will just consider it my bad luck and my money down the drain. I will take care of this problem myself and will not find me posting other word about this issue. Let the thread's original purpose continue and thanks to all of you for lending your ears. | |||||||
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29th May 2009, 01:03 | #923 |
Senior - BHPian | Guys i have a feeling the signal issue is a firmware thing, i've been reading similar stories on a few bb forums. Lets wait for the AT&T firmware hope it will better out the reception. And the Holster of my BOLD was also tight, but then i got a replacement from airtel. Same Shape but slightly loose. The OEM case is known to rip the chrome of the BEZEL coz of the "tightness". @ Mobike008 : I hope the matter gets resolved. And you have a properly functioning BB BOLD. |
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29th May 2009, 10:44 | #924 |
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| For AT&T or anyother service provider specific firmware go to this link and download BlackBerry - BlackBerry Desktop and Device Software Download Sites |
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29th May 2009, 12:43 | #925 |
Senior - BHPian | Signal issue on a BB handset could crop up on any model without any reason. I know atleast 4 of my close friends who are using various models. They all faced this issue atleast once, some upgraded the firmware and corrected. Some of them had to change phones. My Pearl 8120 still has this issue once a while. I had upgraded the firmware but the issue still appears. Once I saw the red 'SOS' letters on the screen when being inside Columbia Asia Hospital and it appears the same whenever I go to the basement of huge buildings, sometimes inside lifts too. The heart breaking part was when my wifee's sony ericsson showed full range when mine was showing 'SOS' in a building. I am used to it, so not planning to change the handset for a while. But, mine is a not a permanent issue, it comes only in some areas or buildings. |
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29th May 2009, 13:31 | #926 | |
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Another issue with BB will make me rethink bout getting one for myself | |
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29th May 2009, 14:35 | #927 |
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| i have a 8830 which is CDMA + GSM. Now the signal fades away many a times for good 2-3 seconds. When this happens 'insert sim card' comes up. I am so fed up with this 8830 that i regret the day i paid 30k for it. I have used a similar 8830 with 'sprint' in USA which never gave me issues. This is due to 'TATA Indicom'. Maverick - I would yet never go for a Nokia. Lets put it this way take the best Nokia still cant beat the performance of a BB. I tested the e75 it suxs. Why do Nokia phones come with 'Blackberry Connect' and not other wise. |
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29th May 2009, 15:18 | #928 | |
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good one thr m still not able to undertand why BB users are so much addicted to device,waiting to feel the same . | |
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29th May 2009, 15:37 | #929 |
Senior - BHPian | Signal issue is not a permanent complaint in most BB phones. It comes and goes whenever it pleases. It could be network related, firmware related or user-luck related. Yet to find the reason. I was worried when I saw my phone showing red signal range and SOS letters for the first time, but I got relieved when some of my friends told me about the same issue in different BB handsets. |
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