Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras

joe1980 · 7th December 2015, 23:10

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Originally Posted by BipB

There is a 24-70 F2.8 FE mount on cards. Sony alpha rumours has reported the same.

Yes, I've heard about it, but I guess the availability would be perhaps mid next year! I would need a camera with a zoom lens by this December.

VW2010 · 8th December 2015, 01:11

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I tried going full manual on my NEX-6 with some Minolta lenses and an appropriate adapter. Even though it was interesting, my main purpose of using the camera is to capture those spontaneous candid moments. So, a very good AF becomes a necessity. So weighing in all the options, I made up my mind to go for the OMD-EM-5 MK II

Good choice and you will like it. All my lenses are manual and my kid is 2 years and i have never missed a candid moment. Would AF help , i think yes but have been using manual lenses for close to 3 years now from canon days.

The only AF i have is the Sony 35mm and i shoot only at F1.4 with that lens. its a hit and miss even with A7rII due to the DOF but the Eye AF in the A7RII makes shooting candid moments so easy.

The biggest advantage for me is the eye AF. A7RII rocks in that and i hardly worry about focusing when using the A7RII and any AF lenses.

Manual focusing takes time and once you master it you can enjoy the challenges.

I just now tried the A7s and have gone back to A7rII for i wont be ever using that much low light ever and the A7rII gives me exceptionally cropping support. And my fav lens so far has been the Canon 0.95. Only after you print you realize how vintage those pictures are.

joe1980 · 12th December 2015, 13:01

I took the plunge. Sold all my Sony NEX gear and got the Olympus OMD EM 5 Mark II with the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro lens. The menu system looks much deeper in content than the NEX. It is going to take a while before I would get fluent with using the camera. The AF is excellent under normal lighting conditions. I was surprised to note that the kit came with a small Olympus flash unit, though I'm not sure how useful that might be. Overall, I like the build quality and I'm definitely loving the IBIS.

Jeroen · 12th December 2015, 15:06

Congratulations! You are going to love this combo!

joe1980 · 13th December 2015, 00:39

While I'm fiddling with my OMD, I'm trying to find out how I could change the ISO in M or A mode? I see that the camera is set to Auto-ISO, but how do I assign the ISO to one of the dials or custom button so that I could manipulate it? Unfortunately, I could not figure this out from the user manuals!

VW2010 · 13th December 2015, 01:25

You should be able to set it under

Gear E: ISO & Timers

You can define the upper and lower limit.

But is your question is to toggle between auto iso and standard ISO dial? If so the standard ISO should work when you dial the ISO all the way up to say ISO100 and continue in that direction.

And for generic mirrorless question - Here is a picture from a 99 years old lens the Trioplan 100 mm F2.8. THis lens is now getting modern make up. But the bubble bokeh is its specialty. I call this the Christmas lens.

joe1980 · 13th December 2015, 03:03

Which dial is that to control the ISO? there are two dials on the right, one for the Aperture and the other for the exposure compensation. Which dial is that for changing the ISO? On my NEX-6 the second dial was used to control the ISO. How do I do it with the OMD?

VW2010 · 13th December 2015, 04:13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI4NtRoEb_k

Can you check this video. I dont have the EM5 in hand so dont remember. But this is the video i went through to quickly get oriented.

Jeroen · 13th December 2015, 06:59

A quicker way is to use the super user panel. Click on ok and use the arrow buttons to navigate to ISO. Or even quicker, assign a button.

joe1980 · 13th December 2015, 10:57

What do you guys do to control the ISO? Do you use the Super Control Panel?

Is there a way the front mode dial to control the ISO instead of the exposure compensation? For example., I would like to hold the Fn1 or Fn2 button and rotate the rear dial to change the ISO. This is a lot better than clicking and navigating through the SCP!

Jeroen · 13th December 2015, 15:49

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Originally Posted by joe1980

What do you guys do to control the ISO? Do you use the Super Control Panel?

Is there a way the front mode dial to control the ISO instead of the exposure compensation? For example., I would like to hold the Fn1 or Fn2 button and rotate the rear dial to change the ISO. This is a lot better than clicking and navigating through the SCP!

I use the SCP. i believe you can assign either dial and if Im not mistaken in one of the six modes of the little lever ISO is assigned to one of the dials.
I must admit I Rarely adjust ISO. I keep it on auto which will also ensure it never gets above 1600. You would be surprised how good the quality is. I have a few predefined modes in which I would use a fixed ISO and that tends to be 200.

Jeroen

joe1980 · 13th December 2015, 15:55

I will figure that out on adjusting the ISO with the Fn button and the mode dial.

Here are a few tips and tricks that I think would be worthy enough for all OMD users:

http://www.biofos.com/mft/omd_em1_settings.html - applies to OMD EM 5 Mark II as well

http://robinwong.blogspot.de/2015/07...eat-sheet.html - Excellent tips!

Samurai · 13th December 2015, 17:47

Even I keep the ISO in auto mode, but limited to 1600. I shoot mostly in A priority, and only modify aperture shot-to-shot.

joe1980 · 13th December 2015, 18:07

I assigned the multi function Fn button (I guess it is the F2 button) to set WB and ISO. This is exactly what I wanted. Pressing the F2 button and rotating the front dial would toggle between WB, while rotating the back dial would change the ISO which is perfect for my style of shooting!

Jeroen · 14th December 2015, 12:32

Switch to RAW and you never have to worry about WB anymore.

I bought this book, very useful to quickly get up to speed on this camera

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide...AGary+Friedman
Enjoy your new camera.

12th December 2015, 13:01	#1653
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras I took the plunge. Sold all my Sony NEX gear and got the Olympus OMD EM 5 Mark II with the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro lens. The menu system looks much deeper in content than the NEX. It is going to take a while before I would get fluent with using the camera. The AF is excellent under normal lighting conditions. I was surprised to note that the kit came with a small Olympus flash unit, though I'm not sure how useful that might be. Overall, I like the build quality and I'm definitely loving the IBIS.
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12th December 2015, 15:06	#1654
Jeroen Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 8,093 Thanked: 50,784 Times View My Garage	Congratulations! You are going to love this combo!
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13th December 2015, 00:39	#1655
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras While I'm fiddling with my OMD, I'm trying to find out how I could change the ISO in M or A mode? I see that the camera is set to Auto-ISO, but how do I assign the ISO to one of the dials or custom button so that I could manipulate it? Unfortunately, I could not figure this out from the user manuals!
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13th December 2015, 01:25	#1656
VW2010 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: electricity Posts: 2,763 Thanked: 3,413 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras You should be able to set it under Gear E: ISO & Timers You can define the upper and lower limit. But is your question is to toggle between auto iso and standard ISO dial? If so the standard ISO should work when you dial the ISO all the way up to say ISO100 and continue in that direction. And for generic mirrorless question - Here is a picture from a 99 years old lens the Trioplan 100 mm F2.8. THis lens is now getting modern make up. But the bubble bokeh is its specialty. I call this the Christmas lens. Attached Thumbnails
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13th December 2015, 03:03	#1657
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras Which dial is that to control the ISO? there are two dials on the right, one for the Aperture and the other for the exposure compensation. Which dial is that for changing the ISO? On my NEX-6 the second dial was used to control the ISO. How do I do it with the OMD?
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13th December 2015, 06:59	#1659
Jeroen Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 8,093 Thanked: 50,784 Times View My Garage	A quicker way is to use the super user panel. Click on ok and use the arrow buttons to navigate to ISO. Or even quicker, assign a button.
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13th December 2015, 10:57	#1660
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras What do you guys do to control the ISO? Do you use the Super Control Panel? Is there a way the front mode dial to control the ISO instead of the exposure compensation? For example., I would like to hold the Fn1 or Fn2 button and rotate the rear dial to change the ISO. This is a lot better than clicking and navigating through the SCP! Last edited by joe1980 : 13th December 2015 at 11:23.
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13th December 2015, 15:55	#1662
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras I will figure that out on adjusting the ISO with the Fn button and the mode dial. Here are a few tips and tricks that I think would be worthy enough for all OMD users: http://www.biofos.com/mft/omd_em1_settings.html - applies to OMD EM 5 Mark II as well http://robinwong.blogspot.de/2015/07...eat-sheet.html - Excellent tips!
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13th December 2015, 17:47	#1663
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,826 Thanked: 45,514 Times View My Garage	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras Even I keep the ISO in auto mode, but limited to 1600. I shoot mostly in A priority, and only modify aperture shot-to-shot.
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13th December 2015, 18:07	#1664
joe1980 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Andromeda Posts: 336 Thanked: 155 Times	Re: Mirrorless or EVIL Cameras I assigned the multi function Fn button (I guess it is the F2 button) to set WB and ISO. This is exactly what I wanted. Pressing the F2 button and rotating the front dial would toggle between WB, while rotating the back dial would change the ISO which is perfect for my style of shooting!
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14th December 2015, 12:32	#1665
Jeroen Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 8,093 Thanked: 50,784 Times View My Garage	Switch to RAW and you never have to worry about WB anymore. I bought this book, very useful to quickly get up to speed on this camera http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide...AGary+Friedman Enjoy your new camera.
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