Originally Posted by typeOnegative
(Post 2212384)
True. Yes. And it should be 'pentaprism / pentamirror'. No. Because there have been and may still be some fixed lens DSLRs. I have a super zoom (HS10) that gives me phenomenal manual control. Making sensor size a subjective aspect, should I go about calling my camera a DSLR? It even looks like one. Heh heh. Agreed to a point. However, if one cannot phase out an older technology because of the limitations of a newer one, then how is the older technology redundant? How does this count in the discussion? Anyway, The EVF on an EVIL camera always will have some limitations. For one it is not true rendering and secondly there is a bit of lag always. Of course advancements will perfect this over time. For me the biggest sore point about the EVF is that I am too used to composing with the camera held closely to my face. And the current crop of accessorized EVFs are too flimsy for me. The fact is that a DSLR is a DSLR and an EVIL camera is an EVIL camera. On one hand we call people who do not know enough about cars ignorant aam janta and on the other hand we are perpetuating similar ignorance in another field even though we know better. :D I am not denigrating/criticizing the EVIL camera, I am only stating that it is not a DSLR. And I may buy one too if I am convinced that it helps me. I think that both technologies may co-exist for a while and one may die-off depending on market forces. |
Originally Posted by alpha1
(Post 2213121)
Thats means you are not taking the spirit of DSLR, rather confining the term to a technical definition. Fine. Then we shall use the term EVIL from now on. :) |
Originally Posted by alpha1
(Post 2213121)
Regarding the pentaprism/mirror - you tell me why is it necessary in any camera? Why was it even invented (in the film era)? ... and now why should the same be required in a digital camera? You will realize what redundancy I was talking about. |
Originally Posted by alpha1
(Post 2213121)
And as an EVIL advocate I would reply to EVF/LCD vs Optical viewfinder: The picture, that you are taking via camera - is it what your eyes see via the lens, or is it the image falling on the CCD/CMOS sensor? |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2213075)
Sorry to be rude but FILM being still used has nothing to do with sentiments or age. Fact is, yes i keep film with me and yes i use it, but its not the sentiments, its the fact that my film slr will cost $20 to replace and i wont hesitate to use it anywhere. |
Originally Posted by rajb3125
(Post 2213075)
Problem is people pretending to be pros and coming in the way of others. |
Originally Posted by typeOnegative
(Post 2213175)
It's like saying why should one have stick shift when there is an Auto-transmission option available? |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2213194)
It is a question of practicality too. In Bangalore there is only one person who develops 120 film, and he charges an arm and a leg. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2213194)
I don't do that even when I am using the dSLR. In fact, I avoid taking my dSLR to family weddings lest I get in the way of wedding photographers. |
Originally Posted by alpha1
(Post 2213121)
Regarding the pentaprism/mirror - you tell me why is it necessary in any camera? Why was it even invented (in the film era)? ... and now why should the same be required in a digital camera? You will realize what redundancy I was talking about. And as an EVIL advocate I would reply to EVF/LCD vs Optical viewfinder: The picture, that you are taking via camera - is it what your eyes see via the lens, or is it the image falling on the CCD/CMOS sensor? |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2213194)
I don't do that even when I am using the dSLR. In fact, I avoid taking my dSLR to family weddings lest I get in the way of wedding photographers. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2213194)
Well, that question is indeed asked in USA where 99% of the cars are automatic. |
Originally Posted by typeOnegative
(Post 2212996)
@clevermax, in Mumbai I have never seen a Sony DSLR. |
Originally Posted by tsk1979
(Post 2213244)
"when arguing on the internet, always argue about features you will never use or have never used". So the 1% of the situations where phase detect focus is needed and an penta(prism/mirror) is needed, make the entire concept of EVF totally useless. Since out of a 1000 photos a beginner will take, lets say one photo was not good because he did not have a mirror/prism, it is enough to trash the entire system. |
Originally Posted by tsk1979
(Post 2213244)
So arguing about what is good or bad on technology front is not going to get anyone anywhere. Interchangeable lens cameras are the future for a lot of beginners. If the Panasonic GH2 had a special feature which I need, I would have sold my Tamron 10-24 and all other lenses, and simply jumped on a Panasonic GH2 with a 7-14 and a 70-300 lens. |
Originally Posted by clevermax
(Post 2213309)
That's very strange indeed!! I saw some Alphas being displayed in a mediocre camera shop in Trivandrum along with their Canon and Nikon cousins - last weekend! :eek: They didn't have mid-range or high end Sonys in stock but they said they can place the order and get it in a week. Just like they procure high end Caniokons when someone wants to buy it. |
Originally Posted by tsk1979 So arguing about what is good or bad on technology front is not going to get anyone anywhere. Interchangeable lens cameras are the future for a lot of beginners. If the Panasonic GH2 had a special feature which I need, I would have sold my Tamron 10-24 and all other lenses, and simply jumped on a Panasonic GH2 with a 7-14 and a 70-300 lens. |
Originally Posted by typeOnegative
(Post 2213327)
The ones I ask here stock only NEX. Last month it was just P&S's. I have narrowed down a Sony Exclusive showroom which shows some promise. Will try them. BTW, which shop in TVPM? |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2203879)
I think, until Nikon and Canon come out with their EVIL cameras, this situation will continue. After that most entry level buyers will switch over to Canon/Nikon EVIL cameras, and only pros will remain in dSLR. |
Originally Posted by Samurai
(Post 2203879)
I think, until Nikon and Canon come out with their EVIL cameras, this situation will continue. After that most entry level buyers will switch over to Canon/Nikon EVIL cameras, and only pros will remain in dSLR. |
Originally Posted by ajman28
(Post 2213344)
I agree with you totally on this. I have just got my first DSLR and still figuring out "what shutter speed/f number" etc to be used at what situation (thoroughly enjoying the sessions though :) ). |
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