Looking for the most economical car

ess_a · 25th August 2006, 09:16

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Originally Posted by vincentt

However I personally feel the alto to be more cramped than even M800.

Hell NO!!!! I agree Alto is not as spacious as an Indica.... But as compared to 800, its a mansion!!

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

I am not really comfortable with getting an aftermarket fitment of CNG or LPG kits,

The TATAs themselves get the CNG fitted, and give warranty on the kit (its Bendini i think)... So u dont need to worry...

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

What about Diesel? What are the best options in terms of cost of car, cost of fuel/mileage, cost of maintenance/repairs?

It would have been better if u could have given us your approx budget... The best bet i feel is the Indica V2 turbo... it could set you back by around 4-4.5lac, depending upon your variant... The car is good (no wonder you see so many of them running around)... It is economical (thats why its one of the hottest TAXI car)...And the new V2 is trouble free so low on maintenance....

Ajay_J · 25th August 2006, 10:18

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Originally Posted by GTO

Most economical car = Alto. Its that simple. Check out also the Indica diesel...you may just like the big car feel more.

Why not WagonR 's new avtar... the CNG one. A better car in all sence.

Intrepid · 25th August 2006, 10:58

Hey Vebmetal:
I'd say try to find a good used 5 speed Mpfi M800...
I've been driving this baby for a while... and i can def say its VFM... low maintenance and low cost of spares...
Compared to the Alto Lxi which i've also i've been driving quite a bit... I wud say the M800 feels a lot nicer to drive... in the Alto which is also 800cc they've made it a granddaddy's car... i find it too sluggish... but yes its definitely more comfortable than the M800... power steering n all...
Alto makes sense if u can find the 1.1L version... that was a good car to drive but the 800cc version is terribly underpowered...
Overall i'd say u must check out the M800 (5 speed Mpfi).... (before going in for the Alto)

ballkey · 25th August 2006, 13:51

Most economical would be a Maruti Omni LPG - but I guess you wouldnt like it.. Since you're in Delhi, the XETA CNG seems to be your best option. A well-maintained Indica diesel should be good too, especially if you're doing lots of highway driving.

supremeBaleno · 25th August 2006, 14:18

Alto Lxi fits the bill perfectly. But if you can throw in some more money, the WagonR Duo is a good choice. More power, higher stance and the CNG option will make it more economical.

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Originally Posted by ess_a

Hey one thing i forgot to add!!! have look at this..
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/280028-post429.htmlSKODA RULES

Saw that post yesterday. But I feel that the meter is not accurate (they are supposed to be only indicative, if I am right).
32.25 kms per litre of diesel???. Don't think it is feasible. If a litre mileage test returns that fabulous FE, I am selling my Baleno and getting a Skoda NOW (high maintenance and spares cost be damned).

Boom Shiva · 25th August 2006, 15:37

Get Alto or WagonR Duo with LPG (there is no CNG option available). Both are good, reliable cars with good FE, good performance and Maruti service.

You can get Indica too, but then you're at the mercy of Tata.

srikantans04 · 25th August 2006, 16:15

WagonR without a doubt!

Its more spacious than an Alto. The new ones come with CNG/LPG/etc stock. It gives phenomenol mileage.
When it was launched, they had a competition in Banglore on how much mileage can one extract out of one litre of petrol in city driving. The winner got 28!
Not that you should expect that from ur Wagon R :P

Its not much on aesthetics though (personal view)

mail4ajo · 25th August 2006, 18:26

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Originally Posted by srikantans04

The new ones come with CNG/LPG/etc stock. It gives phenomenol mileage.

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

More power, higher stance and the CNG option will make it more economical.

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Originally Posted by Ajay_J

Why not WagonR 's new avtar... the CNG one. A better car in all sence.

Guys, its LPG, not CNG

ess_a · 25th August 2006, 18:53

@ Vebmetal
I know you are being bombarded with recommendations for the LPG wagonR... but just one thing i wanted to tell u... there only 16 LPG filling stations in Delhi/NCR.... All the people who are recommending the wagonR are not living in Delhi!!! Hey ppl CNG in delhi is like petrol!!!

So if u go for alternate fuels, go for the XETA CNG...

ssl2uv108 · 28th August 2006, 21:43

New Alto interiors suck.
LPG if u want to lug a cylinder in the boot !
CNG if u tank up at fuel stations.

esteem_lover · 29th August 2006, 15:10

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Originally Posted by ssl2uv108

New Alto interiors suck.
LPG if u want to lug a cylinder in the boot !
CNG if u tank up at fuel stations.

excuse me ... LPG does not mean lugging a cylinder. LPG too can be tanked up, if you have fitted a tank.

Boom Shiva · 29th August 2006, 15:16

Also with CNG you get effectively half the travelling range and need to fill up twice as often as with LPG.

And empty CNG tank weighs 75 kgs. Empty LPG tank is 22 kgs. On a small car that makes a big difference, especially shocks and suspension.

shuvc · 29th August 2006, 15:48

Let me try and throw in some approximate numbers in the discussion.

Delhi Ex-showroom prices (from respective web sites)
Alto LXi : 2,83,878
Indica DLG : 3,78,279

On road price difference between the two would be approx 1 Lakh.

You'll travel 45kms per day i.e. 16425 kms annually ~ 16500kms
For Alto,
Assuming F.E. of 15kmpl and petrol costing Rs. 50/litre, your annual fuel spend would be Rs. 55,000.

For Indica,
Assuming F.E. of 15kmpl and diesel costing Rs. 33/litre, your annual fuel spend would be Rs. 36,300.

Difference in fuel costs ~ 18,700.
Difference in fuel costs ~ 93,500 - for a 5 year period and it is still less than the 1 Lakh price difference between the two cars.

Both should be easy on maintenance and have good resale. What you do not get in the Alto is the Indica's space.

akroy · 29th August 2006, 16:08

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

Wow! Thanks for all the response! Alto Lxi looks good so far.

Sumed, what is A.S.S.?

I am not really comfortable with getting an aftermarket fitment of CNG or LPG kits, so I guess as far as those fuels go, the Wagon-R Duo is the only option, but I have read mixed reviews of that.

What about Diesel? What are the best options in terms of cost of car, cost of fuel/mileage, cost of maintenance/repairs?

If going for petrol, dont think twice, buy an Alto...I too own one and it is a highway car for me...out of 4800kms so far, I have driven 4300kms on highways....very reliable, you can extract great mileage if you drive it according to what mentioned in the book....

Abhi

mail4ajo · 30th August 2006, 01:32

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Originally Posted by ssl2uv108

LPG if u want to lug a cylinder in the boot !

The cylinder business was about 3-4 years back. No one uses it anymore. RTO regulations forbid them.

25th August 2006, 10:58	#18
Intrepid Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 15 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey Vebmetal: I'd say try to find a good used 5 speed Mpfi M800... I've been driving this baby for a while... and i can def say its VFM... low maintenance and low cost of spares... Compared to the Alto Lxi which i've also i've been driving quite a bit... I wud say the M800 feels a lot nicer to drive... in the Alto which is also 800cc they've made it a granddaddy's car... i find it too sluggish... but yes its definitely more comfortable than the M800... power steering n all... Alto makes sense if u can find the 1.1L version... that was a good car to drive but the 800cc version is terribly underpowered... Overall i'd say u must check out the M800 (5 speed Mpfi).... (before going in for the Alto)
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25th August 2006, 13:51	#19
ballkey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 425 Thanked: 35 Times	Most economical would be a Maruti Omni LPG - but I guess you wouldnt like it.. Since you're in Delhi, the XETA CNG seems to be your best option. A well-maintained Indica diesel should be good too, especially if you're doing lots of highway driving.
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25th August 2006, 15:37	#21
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Get Alto or WagonR Duo with LPG (there is no CNG option available). Both are good, reliable cars with good FE, good performance and Maruti service. You can get Indica too, but then you're at the mercy of Tata. Last edited by Boom Shiva : 25th August 2006 at 15:42.
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25th August 2006, 16:15	#22
srikantans04 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	WagonR without a doubt! Its more spacious than an Alto. The new ones come with CNG/LPG/etc stock. It gives phenomenol mileage. When it was launched, they had a competition in Banglore on how much mileage can one extract out of one litre of petrol in city driving. The winner got 28! Not that you should expect that from ur Wagon R :P Its not much on aesthetics though (personal view)
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25th August 2006, 18:53	#24
ess_a BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 317 Thanked: 6 Times	@ Vebmetal I know you are being bombarded with recommendations for the LPG wagonR... but just one thing i wanted to tell u... there only 16 LPG filling stations in Delhi/NCR.... All the people who are recommending the wagonR are not living in Delhi!!! Hey ppl CNG in delhi is like petrol!!! So if u go for alternate fuels, go for the XETA CNG...
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28th August 2006, 21:43	#25
ssl2uv108 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 57 Thanked: 0 Times	New Alto interiors suck. LPG if u want to lug a cylinder in the boot ! CNG if u tank up at fuel stations.
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29th August 2006, 15:16	#27
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Also with CNG you get effectively half the travelling range and need to fill up twice as often as with LPG. And empty CNG tank weighs 75 kgs. Empty LPG tank is 22 kgs. On a small car that makes a big difference, especially shocks and suspension.
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29th August 2006, 15:48	#28
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	Let me try and throw in some approximate numbers in the discussion. Delhi Ex-showroom prices (from respective web sites) Alto LXi : 2,83,878 Indica DLG : 3,78,279 On road price difference between the two would be approx 1 Lakh. You'll travel 45kms per day i.e. 16425 kms annually ~ 16500kms For Alto, Assuming F.E. of 15kmpl and petrol costing Rs. 50/litre, your annual fuel spend would be Rs. 55,000. For Indica, Assuming F.E. of 15kmpl and diesel costing Rs. 33/litre, your annual fuel spend would be Rs. 36,300. Difference in fuel costs ~ 18,700. Difference in fuel costs ~ 93,500 - for a 5 year period and it is still less than the 1 Lakh price difference between the two cars. Both should be easy on maintenance and have good resale. What you do not get in the Alto is the Indica's space.
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