NEW swift VDi or new IKON Flair ( OHC out)

Vid6639 · 14th March 2007, 17:10

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Originally Posted by SumitB

I remember that the first Ikon came out when I was in school (1995-96) and had the punchline 'Achtung Baby'. I don't think Ford has changed anything major since its first introduction.

LOL!!! the ford ikon never had achtung baby. it had josh machine. Achtung baby was for the Opel corsa. Are you talking of the corsa or the ikon now??

hows about a lancer?

abinesh · 14th March 2007, 17:33

Since your running isn't all that much to absolutely warrant a diesel why dont you consider the Swift Zxi which comes with all the goodies for about 5.8L on road.

typeOnegative · 14th March 2007, 17:43

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Hey, dippy, he said a drink, not a beer, you can have a punch while he has a drink.

Things getting better. Tough love eh, Dippy?

esteem_lover · 14th March 2007, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

LOL!!! the ford ikon never had achtung baby. it had josh machine. Achtung baby was for the Opel corsa. Are you talking of the corsa or the ikon now??

hows about a lancer?

I think he is talking about the Opel Astra which was launched in 96

Yeah, why not a lancer ?
you could get a relatively new used lancer within 5 Lakhs

higautham · 14th March 2007, 18:16

I think you should go for swift... Ikon feels a bit outdated...
u may consider Swift ZXI also...

karizma_devil · 14th March 2007, 19:28

@higautham,abinesh, @dippy dudes vdi is 5.6 and zxi is 5.8 i think if i go for a swift i would diesel vdi because i dnt like the zxi alloys and not even the rubber ..and i dnt find the climate control that amusing.
so atleast i have decided if swift then diesel vdi

..am begging you guys do not make me think about it again.

@esteem_lover at mu tometown i havnt found any good ones..i am new at mumbai just a year soi just cant trust any second hand dealers there,am scared!

@dipppy am getting the beige interiors + leather ..i should say the interiors are better than any car i have seen.just hav a look dippy-

ford are offering such mouth watering goodies..but guys do check out the new flair jean blue..looks awesome with the alloys and spoiler.good quality leather seats and great interiors..the swift interiors are same ,maruti 800 kinda plastic...maruti should do something !

SumitB · 14th March 2007, 19:31

I was probably drunk while posting

Raat ki utri nahin

Ignore everything other than the fact that when I drove the Ikon it was bad.

FancyPlayer · 14th March 2007, 20:10

My vote goes for the IKON. I agree the new Josh machine looks awesome.
I dont like the looks of the Swift too. But thats me. And I dont think Swift would have been where it is today if it were a product of any other manufacturer in India (Just my thought. No offence meant to swift owners). Just that it is a Maruti product.
If you are going to have your car for around 5 years - I'd say dont worry about the resale.
The IKON spares are a lot cheaper now.
The Ford Service in Chennai is good. Atleast I haven't had any problems.
But you may want to get feedback regarding Ford Service in your state from some existing owners.

karizma_devil · 14th March 2007, 21:17

@ fancyplayer i talkd with a guy who was at the ford service getting his car serviced his cars done 3000 in 2 months not a single penny spent !

he says the brakes gets sme time to get used and if you dnt drive above 100km/hr regularly it should be the car ..but if you are street race kind then its no no because the car seems to "float" when braked above 120km/hr.

am no street racer i do drive fast ..but only sometimes..
i have my karizma to satisfy me..( see my avtar )

Dippy · 14th March 2007, 22:17

The interiors look good. Better than the bland black which I have seen. Your Ikon thingy seems agood deal. You can actually go for it if you are getting these interiors and the other goodies mentioned at a nice price

karizma_devil · 14th March 2007, 22:31

i have fixed a 10.30 time with the ford guys tommorow they said the car i drove today had some suspension problems..so they would give me a new demo car to drive.

navdeep · 15th March 2007, 10:11

your usage is around 600kms ( except when you are @ home ) so petrol car is a better option. Good AC is also imp factor if its going to be in Bhub. Although if Swift Vxi seems best but you are off with its looks so ikon for you.

benbsb29 · 15th March 2007, 10:43

@karizma-devil :

If u have the Ikon Flair under consideration, it would serve u well to go through the following link :

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ip-report.html

That's Sammyboy's long term report, and i have also pithced in at times.
Mine is an Oct 2006 Ikon Flair, and have done 6300+kms to date.

Costs incurred so far on maintenance and service : Rs. 0/-
Car has completed a trip from Bangalore to Kerala and back, not to forget the running up and down the length of Kerala.

Rear seat space is worth mentioning, although i mourn the lack of a remote boot opening lever and seat height adjustments.

My car has been maintained all-stock. Do visit my gallery for some pics.
U do get the new beige interiors, which is a welcome change, although how long they stay clean, one cannot say. Please let me know if you require any further details.

Handling and steering precision have been talked about for ages now, so I neednt dwell on those again.

karizma_devil · 15th March 2007, 13:04

@benbsb

hi buddy hows the a/c of you car ??
i mean here it gets about 46-47 in summers ...so how effective is the cooling because the swifts a/c is really strong!

benbsb29 · 15th March 2007, 13:17

@K_D : The A/C is quite good, but then again i havemt really had any major need to have the car cool from furnace-like scenarios. I usually have the blower speed in positions 1 or 2, as usually its only my wife n me in the car. Car sports Llumar tints, and i also have the windscreen sunshade on when parked in the sun. I employ the use of 2 sunshades (the sticking variety) when the sunlight shines right into the car.
Pic with front sunshade provided here :

14th March 2007, 17:33	#62
abinesh Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	Since your running isn't all that much to absolutely warrant a diesel why dont you consider the Swift Zxi which comes with all the goodies for about 5.8L on road.
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14th March 2007, 18:16	#65
higautham BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 95 Thanked: Once	I think you should go for swift... Ikon feels a bit outdated... u may consider Swift ZXI also...
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14th March 2007, 19:28	#66
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	@higautham,abinesh, @dippy dudes vdi is 5.6 and zxi is 5.8 i think if i go for a swift i would diesel vdi because i dnt like the zxi alloys and not even the rubber ..and i dnt find the climate control that amusing. so atleast i have decided if swift then diesel vdi ..am begging you guys do not make me think about it again. @esteem_lover at mu tometown i havnt found any good ones..i am new at mumbai just a year soi just cant trust any second hand dealers there,am scared! @dipppy am getting the beige interiors + leather ..i should say the interiors are better than any car i have seen.just hav a look dippy- ford are offering such mouth watering goodies..but guys do check out the new flair jean blue..looks awesome with the alloys and spoiler.good quality leather seats and great interiors..the swift interiors are same ,maruti 800 kinda plastic...maruti should do something !
	() Thanks

14th March 2007, 19:31	#67
SumitB BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shillong Posts: 986 Thanked: 263 Times	I was probably drunk while posting Raat ki utri nahin Ignore everything other than the fact that when I drove the Ikon it was bad.
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14th March 2007, 20:10	#68
FancyPlayer BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 47 Thanked: 0 Times	My vote goes for the IKON. I agree the new Josh machine looks awesome. I dont like the looks of the Swift too. But thats me. And I dont think Swift would have been where it is today if it were a product of any other manufacturer in India (Just my thought. No offence meant to swift owners). Just that it is a Maruti product. If you are going to have your car for around 5 years - I'd say dont worry about the resale. The IKON spares are a lot cheaper now. The Ford Service in Chennai is good. Atleast I haven't had any problems. But you may want to get feedback regarding Ford Service in your state from some existing owners.
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14th March 2007, 21:17	#69
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	@ fancyplayer i talkd with a guy who was at the ford service getting his car serviced his cars done 3000 in 2 months not a single penny spent ! he says the brakes gets sme time to get used and if you dnt drive above 100km/hr regularly it should be the car ..but if you are street race kind then its no no because the car seems to "float" when braked above 120km/hr. am no street racer i do drive fast ..but only sometimes.. i have my karizma to satisfy me..( see my avtar )
	() Thanks

14th March 2007, 22:17	#70
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,558 Thanked: 2,462 Times	The interiors look good. Better than the bland black which I have seen. Your Ikon thingy seems agood deal. You can actually go for it if you are getting these interiors and the other goodies mentioned at a nice price
	() Thanks

14th March 2007, 22:31	#71
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	i have fixed a 10.30 time with the ford guys tommorow they said the car i drove today had some suspension problems..so they would give me a new demo car to drive.
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15th March 2007, 10:11	#72
navdeep BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 892 Thanked: 4 Times	your usage is around 600kms ( except when you are @ home ) so petrol car is a better option. Good AC is also imp factor if its going to be in Bhub. Although if Swift Vxi seems best but you are off with its looks so ikon for you.
	() Thanks

15th March 2007, 10:43	#73
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,968 Thanked: 13,218 Times View My Garage	@karizma-devil : If u have the Ikon Flair under consideration, it would serve u well to go through the following link : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ip-report.html That's Sammyboy's long term report, and i have also pithced in at times. Mine is an Oct 2006 Ikon Flair, and have done 6300+kms to date. Costs incurred so far on maintenance and service : Rs. 0/- Car has completed a trip from Bangalore to Kerala and back, not to forget the running up and down the length of Kerala. Rear seat space is worth mentioning, although i mourn the lack of a remote boot opening lever and seat height adjustments. My car has been maintained all-stock. Do visit my gallery for some pics. U do get the new beige interiors, which is a welcome change, although how long they stay clean, one cannot say. Please let me know if you require any further details. Handling and steering precision have been talked about for ages now, so I neednt dwell on those again.
	() Thanks

15th March 2007, 13:04	#74
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	@benbsb hi buddy hows the a/c of you car ?? i mean here it gets about 46-47 in summers ...so how effective is the cooling because the swifts a/c is really strong!
	() Thanks

15th March 2007, 13:17	#75
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,968 Thanked: 13,218 Times View My Garage	@K_D : The A/C is quite good, but then again i havemt really had any major need to have the car cool from furnace-like scenarios. I usually have the blower speed in positions 1 or 2, as usually its only my wife n me in the car. Car sports Llumar tints, and i also have the windscreen sunshade on when parked in the sun. I employ the use of 2 sunshades (the sticking variety) when the sunlight shines right into the car. Pic with front sunshade provided here :
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