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Originally Posted by govigov Hello brainchutney,
I am a previous Ritz owner, (vdi) and I will be biased to it. But my sister does own an i10 and I still drive it a lot.
Pro Ritz -
1. The Front seat of the Ritz is world class, I currently own an S-cross and I still wish I was in the Ritz in terms of front seat comfort. You can drive really long distances with minimal distress to you.
2. If you are going for the Ritz, try and get the Zxi (ABS & Airbag) variant. V variants added the tacho. The petrol V variant did not get factory fitted fogs, it was only in the diesel variants. (If I remember correctly).
3. It is available in BS3 and BS4 variants. The BS3 petrol has a better lower end grunt and is easily a better to drive around in the city that the BS4 variant. With the BS3 variant, it is easier to do a an EGR delete via blanking plate. BS3 k12 engine wins hands down, especially in hill areas.
4. Better mileage, you can expect a real-world efficiency of at least 17.
Cons Ritz -
Back seat is not great
Front left visiblity needs getting used to, but that is the same in i10.
Pro i10-
1. Popular
2. Back seat better than Ritz
Cons i10-
1. The side doors do not have side impact beam (again, if I remember correctly) which the Ritz had. I am talking about 2010 vintage, may have changed since then.
2. Real world mileage low
Considering the math alone, mileage and cost of service, as well, Ritz wins.
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Thanks for the details Govigov. Really helpful. How much do you think top variants of these either of these cars (pre-owned of course) would cost today ? I'm hoping to purchase it from the original owner directly.
Also, do you think I should consider the Diesel option at all ? (Considering I may use the car only for a max of 40-50km a week)
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Originally Posted by BANDHAV I used to own a 2010 Ritz Lxi, drove it for 65k, subsquently handed it over to my wife when I graduated to a Terrano in 2015. She learnt to drive on it, she used it for her office commute. Last year we exchanged it for XUV5oo. It served us pretty well, it was my first daily commute car, it was my wife's first daily commute car. We absolutely loved it.
No other car in the segment offers/offered the kind of space Ritz does. Spares are cheap and easily available. Most of the FNGs are well versed with its mechanicals so no issues in maintaining it.
What a fantastic looking thing it was. Sigh! |
Thanks, Bandhav. Absolutely, the space / roominess and front seating factors are a big one up for the ritz (based on what Ive read). The FNG familiarity with the car is also a huge plus for me. Do you think 1.5L - 2L is possible for a well maintained first owner V/Zxi thats run under 50k ?
PS: Really sweet photo. I personally don't like silver cars too much (my dads Zen Lxi is silver haha) but the ritz is one of the few exception. Its one of the rare cars where I like the silver more than the white (the opposite for a Punto, the white Punto is a total looker in my books)
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Originally Posted by BoneCollector Welcome to TeamBHP.
We have used a Ritz VXi from 2010 to 2018 for nearly 70K + kms. It was one of the best cars we have had. I found it to the best build Maruti till date. It was taut. We did some longish trips in it. The worst mileage was around 15kmpl and the best around 22.5kmpl, both with AC during ownership. Once you get a hang of it, reversing will not be an issue. Our car had 2 sensor reverse parking sensor and no camera. But we never faced an issue. The A pillars are not that thick. Like I told earlier, once you get hang of this car, it'll not create any issue for you. The ground clearance is good enough to not scrape it at most of the places. Boot space is practical. We upgraded to S-Cross in 2018. Had our Ritz been a ZXi, I guess we would have waited for some more time. They don't make cars like that now, a well built and tough car. Do take a test drive of both before putting in your money. |
Thanks for your reply, BoneCollector. Calling it the best built Maruti till date is a huge compliment ! And your quoted mileage is also what I'm hoping to get from a car. Yes absolutely will test drive the car if I can.
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Originally Posted by --gKrish-- Not really. You just have to properly adjust and use the outside the rearview mirrors. I've never faced any issue while reversing. Some people turn their heads and look back while reversing, they will find the pillars obstructing the view. I believe it is better to use the mirrors and have a wider view than unnecessarily strain the neck to get a limited view.
I've driven all the three cars when they had almost the same mileage on the odo. They all had similar hardness at that time (40-50k on odo). We had to get the clutch kit in the Linea replaced (worn out prematurely at 55k) with an updated part. The new clutch on the Linea was lighter than all these cars when they were brand new.
What I was trying to say was that, with a few ten thousand kms on the odo, there wont be much difference between the clutch pedal hardness among these cars. (Assuming all cars were not abused and driven in similar conditions)
It is subjective It is better if you take test drives in these cars and find which one suits you better. The old Figo's HPS is almost as good as the Linea.
i10 and Zen have the lightest steering wheels among them. Ritz and Linea has almost the same hardness but the Ritz has a bit of vagueness in the steering, if you know what I mean.
When new, clutch hardness of Linea<i10<Ritz. Ritz has the shortest pedal travel and linea has the longest pedal travel.
I've only driven the figo 1.5, never filled up , so didn't really check the FE. It was far more peppier than these two cars. But I think it would give around 12-13kmpl in b2b traffic. My uncle's i10 used for short city runs gives 12kmpl with AC. I found the Ritz returning better FE overall (~14 within the city but not b2b traffic). |
Ah alright. Being new to this whole ordeal, I wasn't paying too much mind to the "clutch travel" parameter up until now. I'm guessing it plays a big role too.
Also, just to clarify, the Linea you're referring to is an MJD right ?
Actually, my absolute favourite car on Indian roads for the last decade has been the Punto (I haven't driven one yet). Every single time I see a Punto, I just stop and admire it. It still blows my mind. I like the original ones (later rebranded as the Pure ?) more than the Evo if I'm being honest.
My colleague has a Linea MJD (post height raise model I think, so probably second gen ?) and although I've never driven it I absolutely love that car in terms of exteriors, build quality, ride quality (from a front and rear passenger seat POV), ground clearance, fuel efficiency and my colleague even says its the best steering he's used on Indian roads. The reason I stopped looking at the Punto as an option was mostly the total lack of proper service options, tough to source original parts, high turning circle and the very inefficient petrol option.
Considering the chances of getting a well maintained Punto diesel for 1-1.25 L are not too low (I've seen a few regularly listed on OLX locally), do you think I should keep this car as an option ? I rejected even the Ritz diesel as an option, because I'm not sure the car I buy would see more than 40-50km of driving a week.
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Originally Posted by boniver In my opinion, Ritz is the better car any day, irrespective of whether you're looking for cheaper maintenance, better fuel economy, or a peppier engine. Perfect for someone who's learning how to drive. The only 'but' in this situation is, you may not find a good, well-maintained Ritz within 2 lakhs, whereas you'll find plenty of i10s. I was in the exact same situation as you 2 years ago, and instead of spending 2 lakhs on an i10, I ended up buying a 2004 Santro Xing for about 35% of the cost. I think the newest (2012-14) Santro Xings cost ~1.5 lakhs in the market today, and that's another car you can consider. If I were looking for an upgrade for myself within 2 lakhs today, the Ritz is probably the only car I'd consider.
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Thanks for the reply, boniver. Based on my research I had concluded that the i10 had the better engine (more refined, peppier) and smoother gearbox. You're the first person I've seen who says the K12 is peppier than Kappa 1.2. Another revelation ! If anything, I gather this means the difference very very close to call.
I'm hoping I do find a good Ritz in the next 5-6 months at least. I don't mind waiting since 1.5-2 lacs is a huge expense for me. Cant really afford to get it wrong. I've also asked a few people I know in other cities (who know their cars pretty well) to keep a look out for either car. 70-80k for a car sounds amazing haha, especially if well maintained, thats so much money left over.