Team-BHP - Which hatchback to buy from the current available?

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Originally Posted by RX135 (Post 421067)

This is just hilarious. I really now hate getting myself into this pro/anti-fiat debates these days, but I truly found this hilarious.

I don't know how many Palio owners really complain about problem with their cars and A/S/S ....

Is it really that hilarious? Well... I myself am not very inclined for this debate either but then I have seen quite a few number of cases where in the dealer says part is not available and it has to come all the way from bombay... so cool your heels till then. Palio is a fantastic car... maybe... but if there was ever a problem with it it was the poor A.S.S. If that had not been the problem Palio would have been a runaway success. And I do not think that is a very nice experience for a first time buyer.

However, yes, the decision has to be the buyers... only that he should be aware of the facts.

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Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 421094)

Indica/Getz/Santro will be perfect. My grandfather is 6'2" and he has no problem with the turban in either of them.
Santro is tight for 5 people. for that Indica/Getz are the only options left, and you can choose depending on your budget.

TSK, it is very unfortunate that you being one of the Mod you are biased against Fiat! So far, I thought Mods of T-bhp were unbiased in their affairs at T-bhp, but I sadly feel that is not to be!

Why is not Palio 1.1 in your list of options for Harry? It is a decent car by all standards & comparable to the likes of Indica/Getz/Santro!
What is the harm in presenting all the viable options to the thread initator & let him consider all & make the final call.

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Originally Posted by finneyp (Post 421293)

Listen dude stop jumping to conclusions.
The OP clearly said that he is 6'3" and +2" with turban.
I do not know wheter he will fit in a Palio. However I do know he will fit in either the indica or getz.
As for the Palio 1.1, based on our personal experience with Fiat as a company, I base my comments, nothing wrong with that. You recommend based on your own experience, like I do. I have never seen you recommend a Xeta, and you call me biased??
Last but not the least, it is my free will to like a car or not. Nothing to be with a mod here. If I feel something meets the criteria I will recommend it. Just because I am a mod, does not mean I have to recommend something.

Tomorrow you may jump on me for not recommending an ambassador. For the record this recommendation was also based on OPs requirements like many other. He asked 6'3" + Turban, I recommended cars which I know will accommodate him. I cannot recommend Palio because I have never seen somebody this tall and wearing a turban sitting in a Palio, but have seen the same in Indica/Getz/Santro/Gypsy.

I suggest you look at your own posting record before accusing be of being biased.

If it's only front-seat headroom the issue, the Swift would be good. In-fact it's perfect for tall drivers; though the roof-line is as high as a Santro, it's seating is much lower - if you're a shortie, you wont even be visible behind the Swift's steering wheel. Of-course ZXi has height-adjustment, I think.

For rear space, Getz/U-VA might be better. .

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Originally Posted by ballkey (Post 421405)

Right on the spot. In few words ballkey solved the problem IMO.

I think you have forgot to mentioned your budget & expected mileage.

For your need for 5 ppl. comfort & 15k running, I think you can consider INDICA XETA or Getz (original) or Getz Prime.
SWIFT would be a crunch for 3 ppl. in the rear. For 4 ppl. it is perfect.
Indica & Getz are quite roomy as compared to other cars. Getz is better looking & smooth than Indica. But Indica is better in mileage & is much cheaper (in price) than Getz. I have no idea about Getz Prime.
If you want mileage then stick to Maruti Swift with some compromise for rear passenger comfort.

~A

Iam really not sure whether Swift rear seat is so cramped in comparison to Getz. I have traveled in both of them as rear passenger with two more on either sides.

But I dont feel any big difference between these two, might be a marginal difference with Getz having the advantage (i guess)

Is it possible to make out the difference by measuring on an inch tape or the design that give more space on Getz?

Rear boot space and the center tray inbetween the front seats are two big troubles in Swift

Only a Few People have recommended the U-VA to Him. And I think Uva would be perfect for him...15K per year...so Fuel is also important and Uva is good on average...Space...nothing like it. and I have started seeing a lot of UVA's these days so it means slowly the spare prices would also come down. And the people who would go to See the SPark might be tempted to buy UVA as well. So I would pitch in for either the Spark or the UVA (and No I am not a GM sales Manager!!!)

I am planning to buy a new hatchback for my son (21) and daughter (19) to use, this will be first car for them, probably they will get their driving licenses around the time I buy the car in about 2 months and i have a few questions:
1. Which small car should i buy - swift or celerio, any other recommendations?
2. Manual or automatic - should I buy the basic manual version or the basic automation/amt version
3. should I consider a EV or a petrol car?
4. Any other considerations - my range is quite flexible as I want to buy something that will be safe as well.
I own a fortuner and a camry, so this is the 3rd car in the house. Thank you in advance for all your suggestions/advice.

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Originally Posted by crsvasan (Post 5760374)

Go for the Tiago LR EV or the PUNCH LR EV without thinking much. because you already have 2 ICE cars at your home and the ease of driving an EV with instant power is mind blowing.

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Originally Posted by crsvasan (Post 5760374)

You've not given a lot of details. So I assume that it will be purely (100%) city driven and will be used only by your son and daughter. And since budget is not constraint, an EV should make sense - since it is both automatic as well as pocket friendly on running cost.

The only EV options are - Comet EV, C3 EV, Tiago EV, Punch EV. Out the 4, Punch and Comet are the only born EV. The other 2 are ICE derivatives. Punch will be the best. However you also cannot go wrong with the others. If not Punch, you can consider the Tiago Medium/Long Range. I would not recommend Comet as it is a half baked product and C3 is not a brand to consider.

The most important point to note here is that since you own the most reliable models of the most reliable brand, if you choose to go with Tata, be prepared for surprises from Tata in terms of unreliability and poor ASS experience.

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Originally Posted by crsvasan (Post 5760374)

1. Which small car should i buy - swift or celerio, any other recommendations?
2. Manual or automatic - should I buy the basic manual version or the basic automation/amt version
3. should I consider a EV or a petrol car?

1. With the Fortuner and Camry already in the house, going for a smaller car like the Punch or S-Presso would be ideal. However, the new Swift launch is just around the corner, and you should definitely check it out.

2. If your kids will be primarily driving on tight city roads, I would recommend an automatic. Otherwise, the experience of driving a manual car can go a long way.

3. Whether you need to purchase an EV or a petrol car will entirely depend on your expected monthly mileage. However, I would suggest going for a petrol car due to its ease of availability wherever your kids take their car.

Best Wishes!

Guys,

Would a EV be worth it for running less than 400 kms/month. I am looking for a Petrol Hatch/EV for my sister.

Already have a Petrol Punch. The powertrain and refinement of EV over ICE version is excellent. Though there are niggles and the LR version is slighty expensive.

Have shortlisted Baleno/Fronx/i20 as well which are petrol only. Is the EV worth additional 1.5-2 lakhs more over Petrol. Fuel Efficiency inside city is the main deciding factor. In B2B traffic I guess the EV will be more efficient. Question to Baleno/Fronx owners, What's the actual FE you guys get inside city?

Car will be primarily used inside city. No issue with charging at home. Have provision for additional charging point.

All suggestions are welcome.