second hand Diesel <=2l

greenhorn · 8th May 2007, 21:35

It seems dad's having problems getting to terms with driving an indica ( he cant see the hood it seems , and since the last time he drove was prolly before i was born, and the first time i drove was probably a few months ago for my driving test

, both of us came to the conclusion that tis better that we learn on a second hand car, n then graduate to a new car.Bottom line , as always , is minimum running cost. will be running about 40 odd Km a day.
My First thought was a indica V2 or later diesel,but i heard that indicas don't exactly age gracefully and tend to show their age after , say 60 odd K Km . the budget is less than or equal to 2Lakh. Any recommendations ? other alternatives are wagon R's /Santro's fitted with LPG conversion kits.

kartikkumar · 8th May 2007, 22:02

Hi!

I have an Indica that's done 48k kms and it certainly shows no signs of ageing right now. Engine is in great shape, I still get 12-14 kmpl in the city with the air-con on. Paint job still has the lustre and interiors are looking fine. I guess its ultimately a case of what sort of car you find.

With your budget you should get an Indica thats run about 55-68k kms. Look for body work, check the service history and make sure you take a good test drive, in bumper to bumper traffic as well as an open stretch. A well maintained car should not give you any trouble I would think. Also, considering you guys want to hone your driving skills on the car, the Indica is probably your best bet. It tends to be more receptive to abuse than a lot of other cars I've owned or driven.

Hope this is helpful.

Kartik

greenhorn · 8th May 2007, 22:11

Seems that getting a second hand diesel is not the wisest thing to do. What do you guys think i should do ?

zenopio · 8th May 2007, 22:46

its better u go for a second hand zen better milege and good in city.....

BUSA · 9th May 2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by zenopio

its better u go for a second hand zen better milege and good in city.....

I totally agree, buying a second hand Diesel car doesnot make sense as maintainance will certainly be high. Get a Zen it will be easy to learn on and wont give you a headache in terms of service.

furioussphinx · 9th May 2007, 08:16

Going for a diesel second hand is not much advisable as it would have already been run and used a lot. So maintainance may cost you dear. I would suggest you to pick up a Zen preferrably the older carb engine one which is perfect to learn driving on. Considering the milage factor, you always have the options open for petrol cars, viz LPG and CNG.

Sagar.

raajks · 9th May 2007, 08:28

Maruti 800 - Excellent first car, you can get good cars for your price range. Maintanence is low. Resale value is good too

Santro Xing - With new models flooding the market and people tending to upgrade their cars. Look for people from the corporate world. They tend to use the car less and you might end up with a good deal

Wagon R, falls in the same category as above. The only hitch would be, you would get a 2002 model for a price of 2L or less.

Investing on a diesel for a newbie is a waste of time and money.
You end up spending time on the garage ...instead of learning driving.

abhilashvk · 9th May 2007, 08:50

Try second hand Santros, Wagon R or Old model zens in the 2002 model range. This should come in the 2 L Budget. Investing on a second hand diesel (especially Indica) is not a wise thing to do unless you are planning to use that as a taxi or a pickup vehicle.

theMAG · 9th May 2007, 09:56

You're better off with an Alto fitted with an LPG kit

benbsb29 · 9th May 2007, 10:26

As many others have already informed, do not plonk your money on a second hand diesel. If all you require is a car to hone and perfect your driving skills, may i suggest a M800. Comes cheap, low on maintenance and not so difficult to acquire.

That aside, if you think not being able to predict where the front end of the Indica is the main issue here, you could probably get those pointers fixed to the sides, which help very much. Different issue altogether that they would look like horns to many.

esteem_lover · 9th May 2007, 10:45

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Originally Posted by zenopio

its better u go for a second hand zen better milege and good in city.....

2nd hand zen, convert to LPG is a good deal

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Originally Posted by theMAG

You're better off with an Alto fitted with an LPG kit

Alto with a LPG kit & you might never want to sell the car.

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look like horns to many

Did you just say that it looks horny ??

tsk1979 · 9th May 2007, 11:00

Second hand diesel car? Well most people sell diesel's when they are end of life or done 80K+ kms. People who buy diesel cars do because they drive a lot.
So below 2L you have a rickety old diesel abused to the end of life.

My advice, buy the alto petrol brand new and enjoy 15kmpl in city, or convert it to LPG and give Splendor guys a complex.

benbsb29 · 9th May 2007, 11:06

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Did you just say that it looks horny ??

I said those horns would help in predicting the corners of the front of the car, and not that they look horny.

NOTORIOUS · 9th May 2007, 12:11

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My advice, buy the alto petrol brand new and enjoy 15kmpl in city, or convert it to LPG and give Splendor guys a complex.

It is a best car for learning, fun to drive and also backed by very good A.S.S..

esteem_lover · 9th May 2007, 16:55

15 KM for Rs.27.50 is like Rs. 1.83 per KM, now how will that give a complex to the splendour guys unless it is a 2 stroke 15 bhp splendour.

8th May 2007, 21:35	#1
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	second hand Diesel <=2l It seems dad's having problems getting to terms with driving an indica ( he cant see the hood it seems , and since the last time he drove was prolly before i was born, and the first time i drove was probably a few months ago for my driving test, both of us came to the conclusion that tis better that we learn on a second hand car, n then graduate to a new car.Bottom line , as always , is minimum running cost. will be running about 40 odd Km a day. My First thought was a indica V2 or later diesel,but i heard that indicas don't exactly age gracefully and tend to show their age after , say 60 odd K Km . the budget is less than or equal to 2Lakh. Any recommendations ? other alternatives are wagon R's /Santro's fitted with LPG conversion kits.
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8th May 2007, 22:02	#2
kartikkumar BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore...not Bengaluru Posts: 214 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Hi! I have an Indica that's done 48k kms and it certainly shows no signs of ageing right now. Engine is in great shape, I still get 12-14 kmpl in the city with the air-con on. Paint job still has the lustre and interiors are looking fine. I guess its ultimately a case of what sort of car you find. With your budget you should get an Indica thats run about 55-68k kms. Look for body work, check the service history and make sure you take a good test drive, in bumper to bumper traffic as well as an open stretch. A well maintained car should not give you any trouble I would think. Also, considering you guys want to hone your driving skills on the car, the Indica is probably your best bet. It tends to be more receptive to abuse than a lot of other cars I've owned or driven. Hope this is helpful. Kartik
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8th May 2007, 22:11	#3
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	Seems that getting a second hand diesel is not the wisest thing to do. What do you guys think i should do ?
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8th May 2007, 22:46	#4
zenopio BANNED Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: hyderabad,london Posts: 441 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	its better u go for a second hand zen better milege and good in city.....
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9th May 2007, 08:16	#6
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Going for a diesel second hand is not much advisable as it would have already been run and used a lot. So maintainance may cost you dear. I would suggest you to pick up a Zen preferrably the older carb engine one which is perfect to learn driving on. Considering the milage factor, you always have the options open for petrol cars, viz LPG and CNG. Sagar.
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9th May 2007, 08:28	#7
raajks BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: BLR Posts: 578 Thanked: 119 Times View My Garage	Maruti 800 - Excellent first car, you can get good cars for your price range. Maintanence is low. Resale value is good too Santro Xing - With new models flooding the market and people tending to upgrade their cars. Look for people from the corporate world. They tend to use the car less and you might end up with a good deal Wagon R, falls in the same category as above. The only hitch would be, you would get a 2002 model for a price of 2L or less. Investing on a diesel for a newbie is a waste of time and money. You end up spending time on the garage ...instead of learning driving. Last edited by raajks : 9th May 2007 at 08:29.
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9th May 2007, 08:50	#8
abhilashvk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore/Calic Posts: 367 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	Try second hand Santros, Wagon R or Old model zens in the 2002 model range. This should come in the 2 L Budget. Investing on a second hand diesel (especially Indica) is not a wise thing to do unless you are planning to use that as a taxi or a pickup vehicle.
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9th May 2007, 09:56	#9
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	You're better off with an Alto fitted with an LPG kit
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9th May 2007, 10:26	#10
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,968 Thanked: 13,223 Times View My Garage	As many others have already informed, do not plonk your money on a second hand diesel. If all you require is a car to hone and perfect your driving skills, may i suggest a M800. Comes cheap, low on maintenance and not so difficult to acquire. That aside, if you think not being able to predict where the front end of the Indica is the main issue here, you could probably get those pointers fixed to the sides, which help very much. Different issue altogether that they would look like horns to many.
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9th May 2007, 11:00	#12
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Second hand diesel car? Well most people sell diesel's when they are end of life or done 80K+ kms. People who buy diesel cars do because they drive a lot. So below 2L you have a rickety old diesel abused to the end of life. My advice, buy the alto petrol brand new and enjoy 15kmpl in city, or convert it to LPG and give Splendor guys a complex.
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9th May 2007, 16:55	#15
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	15 KM for Rs.27.50 is like Rs. 1.83 per KM, now how will that give a complex to the splendour guys unless it is a 2 stroke 15 bhp splendour.
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