re: Should I avoid the Renault Kwid Climber AMT? Quote:
Originally Posted by prasanna_indaje Its better to have an AMT car with manual override.
Manual override will immensely help in real life scenarios such as climbing the ramp at a mall next door. |
I test drove KWID again yesterday on inclined surfaces. I found the AMT to be fine for normal inclines. But yeah it could be a problem for sharp ones. Quote:
Originally Posted by tovisu Suggest to go for TIAGO. Well built car with decent engine combination - good suspension. My brother is having amt variant. he is super happy and serves Bangalore traffic and long drives.
IMO, Manual mode is must in AMT (automatic) cars. We have 3 AMT in our house. Nexon, Tiago and a Nano in my family and we are happy. Only in Nano, the DC motor failed and it set back 6,800 Rs. No other major issue. | Quote:
Originally Posted by yedukrishnan199 Having owned the First Iteration of the Renault KWID RXT AMT OPTIONAL FROM 2017, I can tell you that it just gets the job done, that's all. But at the time it was the only car which offered a touchscreen, and the looks were enticing, however considering the current price of above 7 lakhs on road, I would surely spend the extra 2 lakhs (if I had the money) to go for a Tata Tiago XZA Plus AMT.
You may also consider the Hyundai Grand i10 Nios Sportz AMT 1.2 Kappa VTVT too but its not as safe as a Tiago (2 Srar NCAP vs 4 Star NCAP). But its engine is a 4 cylinder and You do get a cash discount of Rs.35000 on the Hyundai i10 Nios too
Do take a test drive and finalize | Quote:
Originally Posted by AGupta I would also suggest to go for Tiago . It have better suspension, headlight through is really good, seating is high comparative to Grand i10 and respectable fuel efficiency. It's also effortless to drive with ultra smooth stareering and light clutch.
Other options to consider if safety is compromised:
1. Grand i10 Nios
2. Swift
3. Celerio
4. Wagon R | Quote:
Originally Posted by superbad My father in law got a pre-facelift Kwid RXZ AMT in 2019, it left him stranded on the highway twice due to brake jamming. Got it replaced under warranty. He wanted to sell it off & get a Santro AMT but being a retiree, he had to watch his finances. The car has not given any trouble for the past 2 years but his confidence in it is destroyed & he no longer does long trips without a driver. Plus having driven it, the engine, NVH, AMT is just very average/below average.
As others have suggested, better to go with Tiago, i10 or Wagon R/Ignis/S presso. | Quote:
Originally Posted by colcol Based on the requirements you have listed, I would suggest the Ignis, i10 or Tiago. If you are budget constrained, look at the Santro or Celerio. | Quote:
Originally Posted by diesel_head Avoid Kwid like the plague. It’s riddled with quality issues and the OEM has been slow in resolving these despite the platform being 7 years old. Like others have said, go for a Tiago. It’s far better VFM. |
I test drove both Tiago and KWID yesterday again. I was shocked to see the AMT transmission of Tiago. It was very laggy and gave a lot of jerks for low gears. Comparatively, KWID was smoother (although still a bit jerky from AMT nature). This was in direct contrast to what I have heard from forums like Reddit and TeamBHP. The test drive Tiago was quite damaged and had done 33k kms. Aside from the bad transmission, Tiago was a better car in every way. Be it the build, handling etc. How is the transmission of you car, if you don't mind me asking.
I have test driven i10 NIOS AMT too earlier. In my opinion, i10 has the best AMT I have ever used but the low safety rating really hold me back from booking it. Quote:
Originally Posted by nmn_22 If you end up going for the Ignis, then suggest you to stretch from Delta AMT to Zeta AMT. The price difference is around 48k and you get a lot of essential and feel good features to enhance the overall ownership of the car.
Some of the features are -
- Fog lamps
- Alloys
- Rear wipers and defogger
- Engine start stop button
- Electrically folding ORVM
- 7 inch touchscreen
Just get an aftermarket camera (Blaupunkt quality is good) installed and you are good to go.
Cheers! | Quote:
Originally Posted by CarWorld My advice will be go for Wagon R AMT either 1L or 1.2L . It has below advantages.
Maruti's reliability for 7-8 or even 10 years.
Maruti's excellent after sales service everywhere.
Maruti's excellent resale value.
Big accomodating 342L boot.
Manual mode available.
Highest selling car in India month after month.
Wagon R itself has become a brand name, love it or hate it.
I have driven most of the AMT cars till Dzire, nothing beats smoothness of Hyundai AMTs. In fact, last year we bought Santro sportz AMT for my brother in law and it works beautifully till now, odo reading is 15k km. But the car is discontinued now. Manual mode helps in increasing clutch life, slot the AMT in manual mode, let the RPM climb past 2k RPM, lift right foot from accelerator, push the gear lever to engage next gear and once gear change happens then start accelerating again. No jerk at all. Hope this helps. | Quote:
Originally Posted by CarWorld Little correction here. Please remember to switch back to Neutral whenever you are waiting either on signal or on incline. Manual mode will help on inclines and reducing jerkiness but switching back to Neutral will help in increasing clutch life. |
Thanks for the info ! I am definitely considering Tiago/Ignis now. Quote:
Originally Posted by MADisMynAMe Could I ask you the price range you can afford? I can try to help you brother |
Thanks for the help! My budget is around 7 lakhs as I don't want to spend too much for first car. It is flexible though if the car is worth it. Don't want to go for bigger cars as I don't have much driving experience. Quote:
Originally Posted by RijuC Cancel the Kwid. Pick up the IGNIS AGS/ AMT. Or stretch a little more and buy base Baleno AMT. Though Baleno would be very wide car for the first time car buyer and IGNIS footprint is tight.
Didn't you ever see 1-2 years old Kwid on road? How the engine sounds? It cries for mercy!
Meanwhile IGNIS has good ground clearance. I have driven IGNIS AGS/ AMT in the hills of Nainital and Pangot. Good enough for average city dwellers and going for occasional fun drives. I guess you are not regular on highways/ expressways. Remain cautious and drive safe on highways with Maruti Suzuki cars. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ottomatic I own a 2021 Kwid AMT RXT (O) white color for my 70 + father. He absolutely enjoys every bit of it. Even I have driven on highways with 5 on board cruising on 120 kmph. In one year ZERO issues whatsoever. As far as safety is concerned city traffic never allows us to go beyond 50 to 60 kmph. Just go for it. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick Avi Yes, avoid Kwid AMT. You can opt for manual version if you really like its feature sets and looks though. The engine and AMT combo just doesn't click. I own Wagon R 1.2 AMT and was very satisfied with its drive mode until I drove to Mukteshwar in Uttarakhand. Manual mode is must have in AMTs to navigate tricky driving situations. This is a big enough reason to skip the AMT version. Moreover lot of people have reported issues with its AMT. If you prefer peace of mind and good drive experience then AMTs fron Maruti and Hyundai are good picks. Avoid AMTs from other manufacturers. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RGCST Hyundai has discontinued the Santro. You might get a good deal there. Maintenance shouldn't be a problem plus you'll get a much better built car. Also Wagon-R is a decent option.
If you are spending 7L, Kwid is really not worth it. |
Good to see a balanced feedback for KWID. Although I am considering cancelling the KWID due to high cost and lower safety. Quote:
Originally Posted by stringbh We got one for my close family member for various reasons, and I get to drive it some times for city errands. Still new, okay so far, but I sense it is going to give issues. AC blower fan is already making loud noises, though the fan setting has never been higher.
Doing 120 on even well built vehicles on our roads has considerable risk. No way on a Kwid with that AMT gear box. I wouldn’t recommend above 80 on this car, it is not confidence inspiring. |
Yeah after test driving both KWID and Tiago, I can definitely understand what you are saying. I was not confident in pushing KWID at all. Quote:
Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana In the same budget of 7 lakhs, you can find a fairly new, 2nd hand, low km run Honda Jazz AT. It is a safe car with a refined, reliable engine. It is also a lot more spacious and comes with a better AT gearbox.
If you want only a new car & budget is a big constraint, go ahead with the kwid AMT. It is not a bad car at all. I own a 1.0 MT Kwid, which is now 5.5 years old with 55,000 km on odo. No issues whatsoever. |
Well budget isn't a very big constraint. I didn't want to spend too much on my first car and end up denting it. Also needed something small for the city. Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadCenter From someone who owns a 2 year old Kwid AMT, it does its job fairly well for a city car. Never had the need for a manual mode be it mall ramps or the hills in Chikmagalur. It holds gear in inclines and declines. Is it a driver's car? No, but my bonkers Tdci Manual Figo fixes that for me.
As a city car it is a preferred choice with Android Auto working seamlessly and creep mode (which the previous versions didn't have) helping in traffic. I picked this cause I valued the 1 star safety (how pointless it may seem) which the Marutis didn't have and couldn't stretch till a top end Tiago.
While I do prefer manuals, I believe the purpose of buying an automatic is to be 100% free of gear shifting and the Kwid does that job well and returns excellent fuel mileage at the same time. Haven't faced any reliability issues either. It is not a driver's car and I don't expect it to be one.
Only issue I have with it is I feel the AC doesn't cool well enough but I'm probably spoilt by the class leading AC in my Figo. |
Good to see another positive review for KWID A lot of people have mentioned AMT being unreliable after a while. Have you faced any issues like that?
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