Sugesstion for buying a 2003 used Palio 1.9 Diesel

pitchucold · 25th September 2007, 19:31

Hi Guys,
I wanted to go for Swift VXI during Diwali, but after reading about Grande Punto, i am feeling that is worth waiting for another 8-10 months for the car to be launched
in India.
But since i cant do away without car, i am intending to go for a 2003 Diesel 1.9 ELX palio D, which i think can be bought for 2.2-2.3 Lakhs.
1. I am thinking of holding this car for 12 -18 Months, then sell it off and buy grande Punto (based on good response). This 12-18 months should be giving me a fair
idea of FIAT - TATA serivce in Chennai.
2. And moreover i think i should be sell the car at that time for 1.5 Lakhs, by which i am be offsetted only by 70-80 grands.
3. Also i heard from few palio owners that car is very sturdy, maintainence is not huge and Service has improved a lot after TATA's has pitched in.
4. I also checked with Concorde Motors in Chennai, they are still servicing Palio D and they can evaluate the Palio which i intend to buy for any major repairs.
5. I may drive close 700 KMS a month. For this Diesel for Palio @8KMPL works out to Rs. 3062 and Used Santro @10KMPL@ 50 Rs Litre works out to Rs.3500, i still make a
saving of Rs. 450 bucks a month.
6. As this is going to be my first car, atleast i wont have a great pain in seeing my NEW car getting scratched. (doesnt mean that i dont mind palio D getting
scratched ;-) )

I also read the post from deepash Puri, http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-mistakes.html

. hope to follow them.
Questions :
1. What is the going rate for Loans for Used Cars
2. What is ur suggestions on my thoughts, are they very hypothetical? \
3. Request feedback from Palio 1.9 D owners about Car and service in Chennai
4. Is there a better place to take the car for evaluation?
5. How can we find car is accident freee?
regards,
Prasanna KV

spadival · 26th September 2007, 10:32

You can go thru this thread for feedback from Palio D owners .. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ying-used.html

pitchucold · 26th September 2007, 11:47

Hi Spadial

I have indeed gone thru the post earlier. based on these and couple of others i have arrived at above questions

.

I am looking forward for suggestion / views on my observation. I just wanted to check if i am making a right decision.

regards,

Prasanna KV

pitchucold · 4th October 2007, 12:37

I have almost finalised on Palio D 1.9.

It is Jun-04 Car with around 35000 on ODO (Though we cant trust it)

Have taken this car to Concodre Service. They have said vehicle is good and probably make require only oil sump change as it is slightly dented. It may costs around 2500.

The Price Quoted by dealer is around 2.7 Lakhs, Probably they come upto 2.65 Lakhs.

But Carwale Individual price is set for the same car at

CarWale CarValue : 2004 Fiat Palio D 1.9 ELX in Chennai

Individual Value

(If you are selling/buying car to/from an individual)
Car ConditionExcellent

Good

Fair

Car Value (INR)2,40,5002,31,7001,80,500Dealer Purchase Value

(If you are selling your car to a dealer)
Car ConditionExcellentGoodFairCar Value (INR)2,11,5002,02,7001,89,500Dealer Sale Value

(If you are buying this car from a dealer)
These values are applicable only if dealer is providing warranty or free services etc. Car ConditionExcellentGoodFairCar Value (INR)2,50,5002,36,5002,21,000

Is it worth paying a premium of 15K for this car. please let me know ur suggestions.

regards,

PRasanna KV

s0uljah · 4th October 2007, 13:15

In this case it depends on how badly you want the car. My friend picked up a Nov 2003, base model 1.9 for 2,60,000. He purchased it in April this year and it had clocked 48000kms. In his case he had been hunting for the 1.9d for ages so the premium was worth it.

Is ELX the base model or does it have some extras like power windows?

pitchucold · 4th October 2007, 15:02

Thanks for repsonding Souljah.

The ELX is the one before top end.

IT has Power windows, Power Steering. REarwiper, Tachometer, Central locking.

regards,

PRasanna KV

s0uljah · 4th October 2007, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitchucold

The ELX is the one before top end.

IT has Power windows, Power Steering. REarwiper, Tachometer, Central locking.

Hey Prasanna!

What condition are the tyres in ? If its possible ask the dealer if you could take some pictures from different angles. It will give us a clear shot of the car too.

Take Nitrous anna along for some bargaining

basilmabraham · 5th October 2007, 07:28

I have a 2004 November palio D...have done close to 70k on it...absolute stunner...no major issues so far...had to get it repainted though, coz of my careles driving and the sctratches shows too much on the black...i get decent FE f 12-13 in city and around 15 on highways, if I drive sanely...

go for the car mate..its worth buying...

lamborghini · 5th October 2007, 10:10

@pitchucold - I think you should be looking at around 2.5L for this car.
Along with showing the car to the dealer, you could check the service history of the car as well as insurance reports to see if the previous owner has filed any insurance claims.
I think an average of 8-9kmpl is too low for the Palio D. You should be getting close to 12kmpl with the car. Maybe more depending on the way you drive.
The Palio is an amazing car and if you are looking at buying another Fiat product in the near future, buying this car seems to be a sensible option and would give you a fair idea of how it is to maintain a fiat vehicle.
The palio is an amazing car, it's very safe, it's big, it looks good, and is amazing to drive and has an amazing ride quality.
I am sure you wont be dissapointed.

pitchucold · 6th October 2007, 10:38

Hi Basilmabraham / Lamborghini/Souljah

The dealer whom i looked at is asking for 2.68 + !% dealer commision that works out to 2.73 Lakhs.

Going for a loan works out close 7100 EMI for 3 years.

I am at crossroads and really confused on what shd i be doing......

Instead of going for used Palio...Should i be going for either
1.Swift
2.Hyundai Getz
3.Hyundai PA
4.Chevy U-VA
5.Skoda Fabia

I guess i am where i started ..hunting for the right new car...
:(

Cheers

Prasanna KV

typeOnegative · 6th October 2007, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitchucold

Hi Basilmabraham / Lamborghini/Souljah
.............
Prasanna KV

Tell the user to shove it and go for a new car. The PalioD is a good car, but a new car is better.

condor · 6th October 2007, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitchucold

The ELX is the one before top end.

IT has Power windows, Power Steering. REarwiper, Tachometer, Central locking.

ELX is the top end model. All these features together are available on the top end models.

.anshuman · 6th October 2007, 15:50

Here in north its easy to find a used palio but its very difficult to sell one.

dr_aryan · 6th October 2007, 15:54

i would advise you to go for new palio1.1 sle(its coming to just around 3.6 lacks ). although its pertrol but fe is good and you may put tata approved cng kit!

man23ish · 6th October 2007, 16:20

Pitchucold,

I bought a 2003 Palio-D EL Base model last month and already its been on a trip from Hyderabad to Coimbatore, a distance of 2500 kms.. I think its a good buy.. I bought mine for 2.35 from Lakshmi Hyundai in Hyderabad. Although, i feel that the dealer would have come down in the pricing.. I quoted 2.30 and got it for 2.35, if i had quoted 1.95 something.. well... Anyways, i am happy with the deal i got..

You should bargain hard.. Since Palio's are not sold in large numbers.. also make sure that you take a good mechanic with you to make sure that the vehicle is still in good condition.. Do not buy the vehicle if it has clocked more than 50000 kms..

Best Wishes to you for your first ride..

25th September 2007, 19:31	#1
pitchucold BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Sugesstion for buying a 2003 used Palio 1.9 Diesel Hi Guys, I wanted to go for Swift VXI during Diwali, but after reading about Grande Punto, i am feeling that is worth waiting for another 8-10 months for the car to be launched in India. But since i cant do away without car, i am intending to go for a 2003 Diesel 1.9 ELX palio D, which i think can be bought for 2.2-2.3 Lakhs. 1. I am thinking of holding this car for 12 -18 Months, then sell it off and buy grande Punto (based on good response). This 12-18 months should be giving me a fair idea of FIAT - TATA serivce in Chennai. 2. And moreover i think i should be sell the car at that time for 1.5 Lakhs, by which i am be offsetted only by 70-80 grands. 3. Also i heard from few palio owners that car is very sturdy, maintainence is not huge and Service has improved a lot after TATA's has pitched in. 4. I also checked with Concorde Motors in Chennai, they are still servicing Palio D and they can evaluate the Palio which i intend to buy for any major repairs. 5. I may drive close 700 KMS a month. For this Diesel for Palio @8KMPL works out to Rs. 3062 and Used Santro @10KMPL@ 50 Rs Litre works out to Rs.3500, i still make a saving of Rs. 450 bucks a month. 6. As this is going to be my first car, atleast i wont have a great pain in seeing my NEW car getting scratched. (doesnt mean that i dont mind palio D getting scratched ;-) ) I also read the post from deepash Puri, http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-mistakes.html . hope to follow them. Questions : 1. What is the going rate for Loans for Used Cars 2. What is ur suggestions on my thoughts, are they very hypothetical? \ 3. Request feedback from Palio 1.9 D owners about Car and service in Chennai 4. Is there a better place to take the car for evaluation? 5. How can we find car is accident freee? regards, Prasanna KV
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26th September 2007, 10:32	#2
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	You can go thru this thread for feedback from Palio D owners .. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ying-used.html
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26th September 2007, 11:47	#3
pitchucold BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Spadial I have indeed gone thru the post earlier. based on these and couple of others i have arrived at above questions . I am looking forward for suggestion / views on my observation. I just wanted to check if i am making a right decision. regards, Prasanna KV
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4th October 2007, 12:37	#4
pitchucold BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Nd suggestions ASAP for Palio D 1.9 USed Car Pricing I have almost finalised on Palio D 1.9. It is Jun-04 Car with around 35000 on ODO (Though we cant trust it) Have taken this car to Concodre Service. They have said vehicle is good and probably make require only oil sump change as it is slightly dented. It may costs around 2500. The Price Quoted by dealer is around 2.7 Lakhs, Probably they come upto 2.65 Lakhs. But Carwale Individual price is set for the same car at CarWale CarValue : 2004 Fiat Palio D 1.9 ELX in Chennai Individual Value (If you are selling/buying car to/from an individual) Car ConditionExcellent Good Fair Car Value (INR)2,40,5002,31,7001,80,500Dealer Purchase Value (If you are selling your car to a dealer) Car ConditionExcellentGoodFairCar Value (INR)2,11,5002,02,7001,89,500Dealer Sale Value (If you are buying this car from a dealer) These values are applicable only if dealer is providing warranty or free services etc. Car ConditionExcellentGoodFairCar Value (INR)2,50,5002,36,5002,21,000 Is it worth paying a premium of 15K for this car. please let me know ur suggestions. regards, PRasanna KV
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4th October 2007, 13:15	#5
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	In this case it depends on how badly you want the car. My friend picked up a Nov 2003, base model 1.9 for 2,60,000. He purchased it in April this year and it had clocked 48000kms. In his case he had been hunting for the 1.9d for ages so the premium was worth it. Is ELX the base model or does it have some extras like power windows?
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4th October 2007, 15:02	#6
pitchucold BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks for repsonding Souljah. The ELX is the one before top end. IT has Power windows, Power Steering. REarwiper, Tachometer, Central locking. regards, PRasanna KV
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5th October 2007, 07:28	#8
basilmabraham BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney/Cochin Posts: 772 Thanked: 76 Times View My Garage	I have a 2004 November palio D...have done close to 70k on it...absolute stunner...no major issues so far...had to get it repainted though, coz of my careles driving and the sctratches shows too much on the black...i get decent FE f 12-13 in city and around 15 on highways, if I drive sanely... go for the car mate..its worth buying...
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5th October 2007, 10:10	#9
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	@pitchucold - I think you should be looking at around 2.5L for this car. Along with showing the car to the dealer, you could check the service history of the car as well as insurance reports to see if the previous owner has filed any insurance claims. I think an average of 8-9kmpl is too low for the Palio D. You should be getting close to 12kmpl with the car. Maybe more depending on the way you drive. The Palio is an amazing car and if you are looking at buying another Fiat product in the near future, buying this car seems to be a sensible option and would give you a fair idea of how it is to maintain a fiat vehicle. The palio is an amazing car, it's very safe, it's big, it looks good, and is amazing to drive and has an amazing ride quality. I am sure you wont be dissapointed.
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6th October 2007, 10:38	#10
pitchucold BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 25 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Basilmabraham / Lamborghini/Souljah The dealer whom i looked at is asking for 2.68 + !% dealer commision that works out to 2.73 Lakhs. Going for a loan works out close 7100 EMI for 3 years. I am at crossroads and really confused on what shd i be doing...... Instead of going for used Palio...Should i be going for either 1.Swift 2.Hyundai Getz 3.Hyundai PA 4.Chevy U-VA 5.Skoda Fabia I guess i am where i started ..hunting for the right new car... :( Cheers Prasanna KV
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6th October 2007, 15:50	#13
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,064 Times View My Garage	Here in north its easy to find a used palio but its very difficult to sell one.
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6th October 2007, 15:54	#14
dr_aryan BANNED Join Date: May 2007 Location: luknow Posts: 54 Thanked: Once	i would advise you to go for new palio1.1 sle(its coming to just around 3.6 lacks ). although its pertrol but fe is good and you may put tata approved cng kit!
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6th October 2007, 16:20	#15
man23ish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 18 Times	Pitchucold, I bought a 2003 Palio-D EL Base model last month and already its been on a trip from Hyderabad to Coimbatore, a distance of 2500 kms.. I think its a good buy.. I bought mine for 2.35 from Lakshmi Hyundai in Hyderabad. Although, i feel that the dealer would have come down in the pricing.. I quoted 2.30 and got it for 2.35, if i had quoted 1.95 something.. well... Anyways, i am happy with the deal i got.. You should bargain hard.. Since Palio's are not sold in large numbers.. also make sure that you take a good mechanic with you to make sure that the vehicle is still in good condition.. Do not buy the vehicle if it has clocked more than 50000 kms.. Best Wishes to you for your first ride..
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