An interesting alternative to the Swift LDi

ram_hyundai · 5th March 2008, 09:53

I was having a discussion with my cousin.He was all set for a swift ldi.Then all of a sudden he put forward an option in front of me.Why not a bolero.The version of bolero with power stearing and a/c with power windows were in the 5.5 lakh bracket.Bigger vehicle,Looks wise i am a fan for bolero.Mileage of arround 16 kmpl according to users here.
swift ldi is 4.63lakh ex showroom,better engine according to me.mileage of arround 18-20 kmpl.
post your opinion guys and help my cousin out.

ram

Akshay1234 · 5th March 2008, 09:55

simple. does he want a car or an muv? the swift will be much easier and more fun to drive.

VJ_MAVRICK · 5th March 2008, 10:09

Well! Bolero is definitely more robust and if your cousin likes MUV's as Akshay had mentioned, he can go for it. I am not sure about the maintenance though and On the other hand swift is more fun to drive.

jkdas · 5th March 2008, 10:11

How about the Get-away?

Bolero top end costs just below 6lac OTR. Will look great and will be spacious. safer than Swift.

krazydriver84 · 5th March 2008, 10:17

The bolero would be fun, You can use it for mild off-roading as well. Moreover the Bolero SLX also comes with an option for 4WD. I think its the most viable SUV to buy at this price bracket. If I had enough Vitamin M, I would have gone for the Bolero SLX.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 5th March 2008, 10:25

What about road tax? Parking fees (fee - not just space)? Tolls? Are these not more for Bolero than Swift?

What about the extra checking at inter-state border checkposts and in the home and other states to verify "unauthorised taxi" checking?

With bolero, you can go in for "private service" vehicle registration to save on one time tax, but the driver will need to have a "badge" (aka taxi license) for driving such vehicles.

narayan · 5th March 2008, 10:38

this is more like redefining car purchase decisions..

start with your budget alone as the criteria and then look at all cars in that bracket and then narrow down on which one you want...

actually this reminded me of how M&M used the "sedan positioning" to sell the SCORPIO

any more info on what your cousin is looking for from the vehicle ?

vkochar · 5th March 2008, 10:43

NOw that is what I call an IDEA... Bolero of course has the road presence. A well mantained Black / White Bolero would look better than a Swift any day.

Of course Swifts engine, handling etc will be much better.

Rotorhead · 5th March 2008, 10:45

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Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

I was having a discussion with my cousin.He was all set for a swift ldi.Then all of a sudden he put forward an option in front of me.Why not a bolero.The version of bolero with power stearing and a/c with power windows were in the 5.5 lakh bracket.Bigger vehicle,Looks wise i am a fan for bolero.Mileage of arround 16 kmpl according to users here.
swift ldi is 4.63lakh ex showroom,better engine according to me.mileage of arround 18-20 kmpl.
post your opinion guys and help my cousin out.

ram

swift ldi vs bolero.? going by this i guess your cousin is just looking for a vehicle below 6lacs and isnt really worried about whether its a car or a MUV. That being the case if your cousing could makedo with some rough riding, comparitively higher NVH and lower FE and comfort then he can go for the bolero just for the sheer fun of having a tough MUV. I personally love the rugged looks of the bolero. If only the interiors where a little more refined. But what more can u expect for that price tag. If your cousin is more of a city person then go for the no-nonsense swift

ram_hyundai · 5th March 2008, 10:54

Some more information on him.He already has a palio d and an indica dls.Indica is used by him for a daily commute of 100kms.He intent to sell one of them and get either of the above.if he gets the swift he will be using it and the palio his father.if he gets the bolero he will take the palio and bolero his father.He has already got a good price for his indica..
Though his father will be using the bolero he can use it on the week ends.
ram

Rotorhead · 5th March 2008, 11:39

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Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Some more information on him.He already has a palio d and an indica dls.Indica is used by him for a daily commute of 100kms.He intent to sell one of them and get either of the above.if he gets the swift he will be using it and the palio his father.if he gets the bolero he will take the palio and bolero his father.He has already got a good price for his indica..
Though his father will be using the bolero he can use it on the week ends.
ram

Since they already have a hatch in the family for city riding, guess a bolero would be a nice addition to the family . Your cousin could go do some rough riding on the bolero during the weekend. But the question is if his father would get used to the MUV after driving the Indica and palio for so long. He will initially have to get used to the rough cluthes, gears and road handling with the bolero.

Akshay1234 · 5th March 2008, 11:52

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Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Some more information on him.He already has a palio d and an indica dls.Indica is used by him for a daily commute of 100kms.He intent to sell one of them and get either of the above.if he gets the swift he will be using it and the palio his father.if he gets the bolero he will take the palio and bolero his father.He has already got a good price for his indica..
Though his father will be using the bolero he can use it on the week ends.
ram

in that case he better take the swift. he will enjoy the swift much more than the palio.

pradkumar · 5th March 2008, 11:57

I read somewhere that M&M is coming out with "mild hybrid" and "full hybrid" versions of Scorpio and "mild hybrid" version of Bolero sometime in June. I don't know how reliable the news source is. With an excise duty of 14%, would they price it competitively? At least, price it at par (that is, current prices) for the hybrid version. I also don't know whether the excise rebate applies for a mild hybrid vehicle.

Here is the excerpt:

M&M, for instance, has decided that all its future vehicles will have a hybrid option and is engineering its models accordingly. A hybrid Bolero is expected in three or four months.

Auto-makers rev up to launch green vehicles

Pradeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

I was having a discussion with my cousin.He was all set for a swift ldi.Then all of a sudden he put forward an option in front of me.Why not a bolero.
post your opinion guys and help my cousin out.

ram

ram_hyundai · 5th March 2008, 15:39

I was thinking in the same lines of ROTOR HEAD.Since there are 2 hatches already in the family why not an suv.He has to take a decission by tommorow evening.I have already conveyed the opinions comming here.
ram

carlover98 · 5th March 2008, 16:01

Bolero is better when it comes to road presence. It is much sturdy and driveability is also good. It can be also used for carrying mor eload and also a little bit of off-roading.

But driving around in city will be tough when compared to Swift, obviously.

5th March 2008, 09:53	#1
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	An interesting alternative to the Swift LDi I was having a discussion with my cousin.He was all set for a swift ldi.Then all of a sudden he put forward an option in front of me.Why not a bolero.The version of bolero with power stearing and a/c with power windows were in the 5.5 lakh bracket.Bigger vehicle,Looks wise i am a fan for bolero.Mileage of arround 16 kmpl according to users here. swift ldi is 4.63lakh ex showroom,better engine according to me.mileage of arround 18-20 kmpl. post your opinion guys and help my cousin out. ram
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5th March 2008, 09:55	#2
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	simple. does he want a car or an muv? the swift will be much easier and more fun to drive.
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5th March 2008, 10:09	#3
VJ_MAVRICK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,239 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Well! Bolero is definitely more robust and if your cousin likes MUV's as Akshay had mentioned, he can go for it. I am not sure about the maintenance though and On the other hand swift is more fun to drive.
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5th March 2008, 10:11	#4
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	How about the Get-away? Bolero top end costs just below 6lac OTR. Will look great and will be spacious. safer than Swift.
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5th March 2008, 10:17	#5
krazydriver84 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kolkata + Gurgaon Posts: 428 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	The bolero would be fun, You can use it for mild off-roading as well. Moreover the Bolero SLX also comes with an option for 4WD. I think its the most viable SUV to buy at this price bracket. If I had enough Vitamin M, I would have gone for the Bolero SLX.
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5th March 2008, 10:25	#6
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Taxes, Tolls and Driving License What about road tax? Parking fees (fee - not just space)? Tolls? Are these not more for Bolero than Swift? What about the extra checking at inter-state border checkposts and in the home and other states to verify "unauthorised taxi" checking? With bolero, you can go in for "private service" vehicle registration to save on one time tax, but the driver will need to have a "badge" (aka taxi license) for driving such vehicles. Last edited by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR : 5th March 2008 at 10:31. Reason: More info
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5th March 2008, 10:38	#7
narayan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,114 Thanked: 2,372 Times View My Garage	this is more like redefining car purchase decisions.. start with your budget alone as the criteria and then look at all cars in that bracket and then narrow down on which one you want... actually this reminded me of how M&M used the "sedan positioning" to sell the SCORPIO any more info on what your cousin is looking for from the vehicle ?
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5th March 2008, 10:43	#8
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	NOw that is what I call an IDEA... Bolero of course has the road presence. A well mantained Black / White Bolero would look better than a Swift any day. Of course Swifts engine, handling etc will be much better.
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5th March 2008, 10:54	#10
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Some more information on him.He already has a palio d and an indica dls.Indica is used by him for a daily commute of 100kms.He intent to sell one of them and get either of the above.if he gets the swift he will be using it and the palio his father.if he gets the bolero he will take the palio and bolero his father.He has already got a good price for his indica.. Though his father will be using the bolero he can use it on the week ends. ram
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5th March 2008, 15:39	#14
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	I was thinking in the same lines of ROTOR HEAD.Since there are 2 hatches already in the family why not an suv.He has to take a decission by tommorow evening.I have already conveyed the opinions comming here. ram
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5th March 2008, 16:01	#15
carlover98 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 78 Thanked: 2 Times	Bolero is better when it comes to road presence. It is much sturdy and driveability is also good. It can be also used for carrying mor eload and also a little bit of off-roading. But driving around in city will be tough when compared to Swift, obviously.
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