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View Poll Results: i20 or Punto ?
Hyundai i20 Petrol 1.2 105 14.50%
Fiat Punto Petrol 1.2 6 0.83%
Fiat Punto Petrol 1.4 80 11.05%
Fiat Punto Multijet 1.3 Diesel 346 47.79%
Hyundai i20 CRDi 1.4 Diesel 187 25.83%
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Old 4th October 2009, 09:50   #106
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Yes its for both of my parents- parents only car...

and here's the best part.. i tried the multiple dealer trick.. aarenes was absolutely right (incidentally did it before he asked me )..

the sales representative said... 'it can come down... (the wait period) depending on who pays first' ...

i checked both the dealers stock for i20 diesel.. none had any.. i think its not selling much at this point.. can anyone with any resources check this please ?

btw.. none of them are ready to shave off a penny on the price .

here's the breakup of the quote given by nimbus Hyundai.. i20 asta 1.4 diesel without sunroof =
ex showroom : 683750
insurance : 19312 (too high ??)
UP registration : 34858 (that much ??)
no.plate and etching : 500
TF & AR coating : 6300
total : 751010

is it all ok ?
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i dont think its a marketing gimmic.
It becomes 2 weeks or less depending on the priority dealer gives you.

For Instance you booked an i20 in a particular color.The dealer then places the order further at Hyundai and tells you the expected waiting time to be around 4 weeks.
Now after 2 weeks another person books the same variant of i20 and that too maybe in the same color.
After another 2 weeks the i20 booked by first person arrives.The dealer calls him that your car has arrived and the person tells that he is yet not ready wih finance due to some hurdle.The dealer calls the second person he says yes and the delivery is made to second person.

let me tell you another case. We have a waiting period of 3-4 months for swift diesel.
Now if i book the car with a mere 10k it will take full 4 months for delivery.On the other hand if i pay the full amount in advance or maybe atleast 80 percent one can get the car as early as 2-4 weeks maximum.Same for Dzire diesel.(It has a waiting period of 8 months)

So basically in all cases dealers try to give priority to customers with ready payments.

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Yes its for both of my parents- parents only car...

and here's the best part.. i tried the multiple dealer trick.. aarenes was absolutely right (incidentally did it before he asked me )..

the sales representative said... 'it can come down... (the wait period) depending on who pays first' ...

i checked both the dealers stock for i20 diesel.. none had any.. i think its not selling much at this point.. can anyone with any resources check this please ?

btw.. none of them are ready to shave off a penny on the price .

here's the breakup of the quote given by nimbus Hyundai.. i20 asta 1.4 diesel without sunroof =
ex showroom : 683750
insurance : 19312 (too high ??)
UP registration : 34858 (that much ??)
no.plate and etching : 500
TF & AR coating : 6300
total : 751010

is it all ok ?

anyone can confirm these charges please ?
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here's the breakup of the quote given by nimbus Hyundai.. i20 asta 1.4 diesel without sunroof =

is it all ok ?
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insurance : 19312 (too high ??)
Yes. Get insurance done on your own. Dealers charge a premium for insurance. Find out which insurance companies have cashless tie up with your dealers service station and approach those companies directly. Remember : NEVER go to agents. Go to the insurance company directly

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UP registration : 34858 (that much ??)
I have no idea about UP charges. But find a RTO agent and get registration and passing yourself. You will save a considerable amount.

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no.plate and etching : 500
this is a JOKE !! since when did dealers start charging for number plate ??

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TF & AR coating : 6300
TBHP strongly recommends NOT to go for teflon coating.
Anti-rust coating is fine : but you can get it done outside at a lower cost.
6300 for teflon and anti-rust is a joke !!
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Old 4th October 2009, 22:20   #110
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@singh.amrit

Hyundai dealers in Bangalore charging Rs.5000/- as "delivery Charges" which they are saying they take care of your Vehicle Reg , Number plate making (Rs.500) etc.

Rs.3500/- is the cost for 3M Anti rust coating if you do it from Hyundai, as they have tie up with 3M

Insurance You can get it for Rs.12000- Rs.12500 if you are taking it from outside.
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Absolutely agree with Amogh.

19K for insurance is going over the top. Get it down yourself. Bajaj-Allianz offers a decent deal afaik. But do check all options.

Ask them for the breakup of the registration charges. They try to squeeze in a margin for themselves through these. What are the road tax rates for UP? Try and see if you can get the registration done yourself or through an agent.

The teflon and Anti rust is bullshit. You'll not be needing either in UP. Just a waste of money and can probably be done cheaper from somewhere else.
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As mentioned by many my vote goes for Punto Multijet diesel, except for the service part which still remains a questions, I do not think there is anything going against the car.
I guess its high time Fiat should think of spinning off its facilities from Tata. Otherwise my views are just based on my TD and looks of the car.
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here's the breakup of the quote given by nimbus Hyundai.. i20 asta 1.4 diesel without sunroof =
ex showroom : 683750
insurance : 19312 (too high ??)
UP registration : 34858 (that much ??)
no.plate and etching : 500
TF & AR coating : 6300
total : 751010
I bought my Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta w/o sunroof in August.

The cost was as follows:

Ex Showroom Price : 683431
Regn (5 Yr Tax) : 34000
Insurance (Cholamandalam) : 12999

Total: 730430

P.s. Dealer gave me a quote of Rs. 20800 for the insurance. I got the above insurance myself. IDV 649260.
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i checked both the dealers stock for i20 diesel.. none had any.. i think its not selling much at this point.. can anyone with any resources check this please ?

btw.. none of them are ready to shave off a penny on the price .
Going by your logic, the swift D is the worst selling hatch in india, since its never in stock, and it always has a few months waiting period! Also, don't you think a poor selling model will have some offers or discounts?

The i20 is selling very well, especially after the launch of the diesel model.
Here are the sales figures, thanks to karpusv

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...es-2009-a.html
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Old 4th October 2009, 23:42   #115
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Here is the quote that i have from Gurgaon.As far as i know Gurgaon/UP registration prices are prety same.So what you can do is ,get the vehicle registered yourself.

i20 1.4 CRDi ASTA
Ex-Showroom - 683,734
Registration & Road Tax - 8,907 (Yes its only 8,907 )
Logistics & Handling - 6,290
Insurance - 19,892
Total - 718,453
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Old 5th October 2009, 15:00   #116
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I have no Idea regarding the registration charges in UP, any idea how can i Get to know them without going to the RTO ?

tried carwale.com RTO for Noida : 42k ; insurance 19k
RTO for Lucknow : 22k ; insurance 22k

these are for the same state !!!

so I am guessing registration would be way below the 22k mark.

should be around k2max6's registration rates .

how can I check ?
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Amrit, this is not a price check thread. Please stick to the thread title.
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Old 6th October 2009, 16:23   #118
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anyone can confirm these charges please ?
In UP the diesel registration charges are 5% of the invoice value, please check this link Taxation Structure; however I still think this is around 4,000 Rs. more
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Old 6th October 2009, 20:00   #119
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The poll results shows that many people prefer GP over i20. But I see more i20s on-road compared to GPs. It seems the same old story again. Many people to praise Fiat cars, but when it comes to buying, it is Hyundai or Maruti.

No doubt, my vote goes to i20.

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Old 6th October 2009, 20:43   #120
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The number of i20's you see on the road are not TBHP buyers. The results show that i20 is selling more in the market, but here on TBHP, Punto owners outnumber i20 owners IMHO.
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