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Old 18th September 2005, 03:25   #16
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Thanks guys for your inputs on this.

I had pointed him about SAFETY (In reveiws I had read that Alto's C Pillars are much stronger), 5 gear, marginally better inside space, modern car, handling etc

The purchaser feels that it's not worth 70k extra

Wish him not to regret after his decision to M800 considering the marginal diff of 62K.
He wont regret buying an 800 over the alto ..for the price he paid he cant get anything better in the market ..
Money is always a constraint .. whats wise is to make the most out of the least ..
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Old 19th September 2005, 15:43   #17
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800 over an Alto is really weird decision in this day and age when the price difference is not that much. oh well....keeps Maruti ticking
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If it has to be the second car, then go for the 800. If it is the only car then go for the Alto.
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Old 20th September 2005, 09:57   #19
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If it has to be the second car, then go for the 800. If it is the only car then go for the Alto.
This is not even their second car, already they have got Corolla, Lancer & Santro used by their family members.

The intention is to sell of Lancer & replace it with a SUV and in addition to that buy a M800.

M800 will be used for office to residence commute, which is hardly 8-10 kms in congested traffic. Upon selling Lancer, need to decide on the SUV.

Order was released for M800. In addition to the free insurance & basic accessories they have put Left hand side mirror, Side beeding, Garware sun control film & Upholstery.
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In chennai weather i doubt M800 AC would do any good. So alto scores on that front. Also the alto has side impact beams, while in an 800 even if a scooter hits the side it may lead to serious injuries. M800 is an outgoing and aged model alto is definately better.
As for the 62K price tag you get
1. Better AC
2. Better suspension
3. Newer design with more space
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This is not even their second car, already they have got Corolla, Lancer & Santro used by their family members.
The intention is to sell of Lancer & replace it with a SUV and in addition to that buy a M800.
Then the 800 is a no brainer. I guess they want a motorcycle on four wheels - to do the rough and tumble of city driving. 60-70K for an Alto then does not make sense. Good choice on the 800 then.
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Then the 800 is a no brainer. I guess they want a motorcycle on four wheels - to do the rough and tumble of city driving. 60-70K for an Alto then does not make sense.
TypeO, they can do the same on Alto as well. And I am not sure, but if someone has enough money to have so many cars in garage, why can't he pay 50K extra to get a newer better designed car, which is at least little more safe than old 800? Alto may not be a tank but, then not as bad as 800. If money saving is prime concern, get a premier padmini at 30K Then, you wont mind even if everyone in the city comes and bumps on your car everyday.
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TypeO, they can do the same on Alto as well. ... Alto may not be a tank but, then not as bad as 800. If money saving is prime concern, get a premier padmini at 30K ...
I know RX, but you get more money by saving money na? I don't think the Alto is worth the extra money if you just need a work horse. Most probably it is just to transport the baais from home to market and back on a subzi buying spree. But yes, I second you on the Padmini.
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Maruti has has degraded the 800 and made it patetic and even the fuel efficiency has decreased marginally.
The old one with 5 speed gear box and 4 valves per cylinder engine was better.
Alto is a better choice, its superior to the 800 in every respect and worth the extra price.
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I have a Dec 2002 model Maruti 800 with 12-valves, multipoint fuel-injection and 5-speed gearbox and the car goes like heck! Should be called Maruti 800 GLH.

And my 800 beats father-in-law's Alto in acceleration and manoevrability -- peels away in a hurry at the traffic light. It can weave in and out of traffic almost like a mobike and the acceleration really charms.

I think the manufacturer figured their their 5-speed, 45 bhp@6000, 62 Nm@3000 torque Maruti 800 was too good and had to discontinue it in 2003 so that their new Alto offering could survive in the market.

But plenty of used 45 bhp, 5-speed 800s abound and are a pleasure to drive.

One problem I have seen with three other 800s, is that the stock horn, malfunctions in the 3rd year. Maybe I should fit a Bosch two-tone pair which comes with its own Bosch relay.

The Alto body is 100kg heavier than the 800.
Turned out to be a tad too heavy for the 3-cylinder engine. And in the 4-cylinder league, the Zen is actually more peppy and energetic.
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Isn't a less than 2 year old, < 25K kms old Zen/Alto a better bet ? Cheaper, and the engine is as good as new. Get new tyres, spruce things up a bit and its still not that expensive.
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Isn't a less than 2 year old, < 25K kms old Zen/Alto a better bet ? Cheaper, and the engine is as good as new. Get new tyres, spruce things up a bit and its still not that expensive.
You are right Sameer. But the less than 2 year old, <25K kms old Zen/Alto may not be cheaper.
My Dec 2002, 800 just crossed 26,000 km. It still drives and sounds new.
An 800 like mine can be had for Rs. 35,000 down and Rs. 5,000 pm EMIs.
Tires typically last at least 3 years, so you can wait for the new tires.
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sorry - meant cheaper than a new one so difference is not 62k
btw, from this link:
http://www.marutialto.com/AltoFeaturesSafety.asp
does not seem like the Alto has crumple zones! Is this correct or oversight on the site ?
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Old 16th January 2006, 17:48   #29
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alto is anyday better than the 800 man... seriously.... the FE, ride quality, AC cooling effectiveness is alll way better than an 800...
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Forget to keep u guys updated on the purchase, sorry for that. Though my personal choice is ALTO, M800 won the race and it was delivered last year September end. Thanks for all ur suggestions.

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