Cheap service costs of Cedia

vasudeva · 21st November 2007, 10:11

As far as I can see, if we really care about the car, costs are going to be higher than what is advertised by dealers to attract buyers. The costs are standard and may/may not include the fine print. If you prefer, you change engine oils, filters at shorter intervals; use synthetic engine oil, etc. That increases costs.

benbsb29 · 21st November 2007, 10:19

I fail to understand what this thread is doing in the 'What Car' section !

vasudeva · 21st November 2007, 10:19

Really speaking, the figure quoted is not one to make at least my eye***** pop. As long as the costs are not exorbitantly high or fantastically low, how does it matter, if the costs are Rs. 500-700 higher/lower for a 10K service interval amongst cars. If someone wants to nitpick about such cost variations on a close to Rs. 10 lakh car, then maybe a 800/Zen may be a better option!

spittingfire · 21st November 2007, 11:49

I got this information from one of my friend who is working in dealership. The source is genuine thats all what I meant. Thanks Dude!

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Originally Posted by diabloo

How can you give the OFFICIAL figure, unless you are the OFFICIAL

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I agree. Cedia is the best thing to happen to beleaguered Indians. I am at my wits to figure out why it is not selling

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reignofchaos · 21st November 2007, 12:11

Here are the service costs upto 50k that I'm aware of.

10000 kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.86
Total Parts Price 856.28
Labour Chgs 0
TOTAL[ L+P] 856.28

20000kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.868
Total Parts Price 856.278
Labour Chgs 0
TOTAL[ L+P] 856.278

30000kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.868
Total Parts Price 856.278
Labour Chgs 688.75
TOTAL[ L+P] 1545.028

40000 kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.868
Air Filter 461.57
Coolant 410
Spark Plug 941.32
Brake Oil 250
Total Parts Price 2919.168
Labour Chgs 1653
TOTAL[ L+P] 4572.168

50000kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.868
Total Parts Price 856.278
Labour Chgs 909.15
TOTAL[ L+P] 1765.428

Please ignore the values after the decimals. Copying from excel messed it up. The total is around 9600. Not sure where the 6800 figure came from.

tsk1979 · 21st November 2007, 12:17

Looks like misleading information put up by mitsubishi?

reignofchaos · 21st November 2007, 12:25

Maybe prices have reduced since then but can't be sure. Will have to confirm from the service manager.

abhilashvk · 21st November 2007, 12:36

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Here are the service costs upto 50k that I'm aware of.......

Just out of curiosity, why are the airfilters not changed till 40K service? Since it is charged after that I presume there is no performance filter. What about wheel alignment, balancing?

reignofchaos · 21st November 2007, 12:43

^^Not required I assume. Can't say for sure. Wheel alignment/balancing is done at every service and the cost is included in labour charges. I must add the cost of the 100000km service which is substantial.

100000 kms service
Oil Filter 142.41
Engine Oil 713.868
Fuel Filter 21922.05
Belt Valve Timing 3503.69
Belt P/s 2954.25
Belt-Alt&others 946.37
Gear Oil 625
Total Parts Price 30807.638
Labour Chgs 1928.5
TOTAL[ L+P] 32736.138

vasudeva · 21st November 2007, 12:47

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Originally Posted by abhilashvk

Just out of curiosity, why are the airfilters not changed till 40K service?

Cannot say much about Cedia replacement schedule for air filters and brake oils. But they seem to match Corolla's schedule, which is replacement of air cleaner filters at 40K, brake fluid at 40K, and spark plug at 40K. Labour charges do seem to be higher than Corolla, but perhaps something else was also done. Corolla's labour charges are: 0 till 20K kms, 450-495 (nonmetro/metro)at 30K, 700-770 at 40K, 600-660 at 50K, 450-495 at 60K, 775-853 at 70K. These are only for periodic maintenance for Service jobs listed under each Service Checklist excluding Washing Charges & Service Tax. This is from Toyota's website, and as usual subject to changes and fluctuations.

RajaTaurus · 21st November 2007, 12:53

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Originally Posted by vasudeva

I am also at my wits end to figure out why such a great car is a me too product everywhere across the world, and languishes near about the middle to bottom of segment sales.

Well, I would blame it on media-addicted public.
Nowadays I am hearing an ad on FM for SX4.
A real estate man tries to sell a super-delux flat to a man in his own Ingileesh and the end the man says "Oookkaaai... Whaaattss Mourrre..?"
His accent/ No comments... Then the voice comes - "He must be an SX4 man..." (What an image for SX4 owners...)

But then, if you ask the ad world pundits, they would say, thats the way market is and we are sure the car will sell more...
When I was talking to Mitsu dealer in Chennai, he said, Mitsu is not targetting the common public, rather to create an image through the customers... Which they believe would be long lasting... Spread of the word... Both their cars they want to be known as sturdy, owner driven and not to be the future cabs... They are proud that there are not much of their cars in the used car showrooms, though its the same on roads as well..
It is working slowly, as the sales of Cedia is steadily climbing..
But is the pace enough to survive in this aggressive media-driven market is debatable...

abhilashvk · 21st November 2007, 12:53

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Wheel alignment/balancing is done at every service and the cost is included in labour charges.

Thats a cool saving. Hyundai charges Rs.550 for the same in Bangalore, in addition to the labour charges which are different for different cars -Accent its approx Rs.750.

reignofchaos · 21st November 2007, 13:27

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Originally Posted by vasudeva

Cannot say much about Cedia replacement schedule for air filters and brake oils. But they seem to match Corolla's schedule, which is replacement of air cleaner filters at 40K, brake fluid at 40K, and spark plug at 40K. Labour charges do seem to be higher than Corolla, but perhaps something else was also done. Corolla's labour charges are: 0 till 20K kms, 450-495 (nonmetro/metro)at 30K, 700-770 at 40K, 600-660 at 50K, 450-495 at 60K, 775-853 at 70K. These are only for periodic maintenance for Service jobs listed under each Service Checklist excluding Washing Charges & Service Tax. This is from Toyota's website, and as usual subject to changes and fluctuations.

The labor charges include tax, washing, wheel alignment. So effectively they are the same. A few hundred here and there hardly matter as long as work is done fine.

spadival · 21st November 2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

The maintenance charges are really low, other than the 100000 km service which costs 30k. Thats because the fuel filter+pump assembly is replaced.

wowww.. Is this fuel pump assembly mandatory/recommended by the manual at 1L KM?

reignofchaos · 21st November 2007, 13:55

Yes the fuel filter/pump assembly needs replacement at 100000 km.

21st November 2007, 10:11	#16
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	As far as I can see, if we really care about the car, costs are going to be higher than what is advertised by dealers to attract buyers. The costs are standard and may/may not include the fine print. If you prefer, you change engine oils, filters at shorter intervals; use synthetic engine oil, etc. That increases costs.
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21st November 2007, 10:19	#17
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,963 Thanked: 13,141 Times View My Garage	I fail to understand what this thread is doing in the 'What Car' section !
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21st November 2007, 10:19	#18
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	Really speaking, the figure quoted is not one to make at least my eye***** pop. As long as the costs are not exorbitantly high or fantastically low, how does it matter, if the costs are Rs. 500-700 higher/lower for a 10K service interval amongst cars. If someone wants to nitpick about such cost variations on a close to Rs. 10 lakh car, then maybe a 800/Zen may be a better option!
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21st November 2007, 12:11	#20
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Here are the service costs upto 50k that I'm aware of. 10000 kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.86 Total Parts Price 856.28 Labour Chgs 0 TOTAL[ L+P] 856.28 20000kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.868 Total Parts Price 856.278 Labour Chgs 0 TOTAL[ L+P] 856.278 30000kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.868 Total Parts Price 856.278 Labour Chgs 688.75 TOTAL[ L+P] 1545.028 40000 kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.868 Air Filter 461.57 Coolant 410 Spark Plug 941.32 Brake Oil 250 Total Parts Price 2919.168 Labour Chgs 1653 TOTAL[ L+P] 4572.168 50000kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.868 Total Parts Price 856.278 Labour Chgs 909.15 TOTAL[ L+P] 1765.428 Please ignore the values after the decimals. Copying from excel messed it up. The total is around 9600. Not sure where the 6800 figure came from.
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21st November 2007, 12:17	#21
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,815 Times View My Garage	Looks like misleading information put up by mitsubishi?
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21st November 2007, 12:25	#22
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Maybe prices have reduced since then but can't be sure. Will have to confirm from the service manager.
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21st November 2007, 12:43	#24
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	^^Not required I assume. Can't say for sure. Wheel alignment/balancing is done at every service and the cost is included in labour charges. I must add the cost of the 100000km service which is substantial. 100000 kms service Oil Filter 142.41 Engine Oil 713.868 Fuel Filter 21922.05 Belt Valve Timing 3503.69 Belt P/s 2954.25 Belt-Alt&others 946.37 Gear Oil 625 Total Parts Price 30807.638 Labour Chgs 1928.5 TOTAL[ L+P] 32736.138 Last edited by reignofchaos : 21st November 2007 at 12:49.
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21st November 2007, 13:55	#30
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Yes the fuel filter/pump assembly needs replacement at 100000 km.
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