Bosch Car Service - Oriental Automobiles, Delhi

tsk13 · 2nd June 2009, 17:19

Hi all
Got my Santro Xing serviced from Oriental Automobiles, Y-34, Okhla Phase-2, New Delhi today.

The service details are as follows:
Oil Filter(Bosch) - Rs.110
3.5 Litres Engine Oil(Bosch) - Rs.645
750 mL Gear Oil(Bosch) - Rs.130
Engine Tuning (Air Filter cleaning, Spark Plug cleaning, Battery terminal coating etc.) - Rs.200
2 Litres Coolant (Wurth) - Rs.360
Brake adjustments (rubbing the Disc parts with Sandpaper and rear Drum adjustments) - Rs.100

TOTAL - Rs.1,545 (excluding taxes)

No proper washing done (Rs.300 is the charge) as the car was washed yesterday at MGF Hyundai, Okhla as it had a running repair. But post the oil changes, he washed the front of the car and the engine.

During the whole process which lasted just 1.5 hours, I was standing their with the car getting a first hand knowledge of the service. The center is small, not as huge as the ones you see of Hyundai and others, but the good thing is that you get to see what is being to your car.

The mechanics as per the owner have been trained by Bosch, but I didn't find them that impressive, can be on account that my car had no extraordinary job for them to solve. The owner also mentioned the labour issues he faces which can be a cause for my belief.

The guys were quick in their service, owing to the fact that my car was the first for the day. The mechanics quickly switched over after one's work was complete. I was told by the owner yesterday that they'll deliver the car at about 2.30 PM on receiving at 9.30 AM, but it seems no other daily service outstanding and my personal presence sped up the things and the work scheduled by them for 5 hours lasted 1.5 hours.

At the time of delivery, the tyres were cleaned using silicone and a tissue box provided. Moreover, one wierd thing was that the mechanic didn't make the effort to remove the car from the hydraulic lift bay and I had to do it, which was quite attention demanding and I had to request the mechanic to help me reversing out rather than he making a move.

The center had an Accent standing for some accidental and electrical repair, an Innova for painting, a Palio for some accidental and regular service and another car.

They have a paint booth with a huge fan underneath and an exhaust overhead. A recently painted Innova was parked inside and the guy told me they use Du Pont paints.

On asking about wheel alignment and balancing, they told me that they have the facility in the vicinity.

Overall experience has been good

, won't say excellent. I was expecting some international standards as seen on TV, but what I got was not what I saw on TV, but according to me better than my experience with Hyundai.

In Hyundai, you'll see a more professional approach in how they :
1. Receive the car with a proper job card (including accessories in the car, fuel tank level, scratches and dents marked on job sheet etc.)
2. Deliver it (making your car's dashboard shine with Diesel, which gives me a headache and polishing the exterior plastics).

You usually don't get to see what's being done to your car in between so no comments on that. I have had an experience of having water filled with coolant at MGF 3rd free service and Hyundai Motor Plaza damaging the headlamp with water droplets being formed whenever it rained. HMP had to replace it eventually after finding no physical damages in the headlamp assembly. In another case with MGF Okhla, the new bumper and fender (car was bruised from the side by a school bus and repairs were handled by insurance) on the car were painted in a different shade of Real Earth colour, which MGF guys admitted and repainted upon the fact that there are 10 shades in Real Earth colour, and Real Earth shade in Santro Xing (models prior to GL and GLS such as XK, XL, XG, XO, XS etc.) is darker than what is coming now on Santro Xing.

In Bosch, you have the advantage of:
1. Supervising the work personally.
2. Some better spares and components available at your disposal.

Over here, the old Garage thing still exists owing to the fact that this particular Center was operating as a garage before associating with Bosch. The Job sheet only has details of work to be done and nothing is mentioned regarding the scratches, accessories, other components in the car like Hyundai. You will still find things lying wherever they are but you have the satisfaction of getting your car serviced before your eyes.

These are my views, I won't be penning down pros and cons in concrete terms with respect to Bosch v/s Hyundai as my views will be a bit vague so I request you to form an opinion with reference to my experience mentioned above.

Warm Regards
Tanveer Singh

To Mods: I saw threads on different franchisees of Bosch Auto Service, but could not find for Oriental Automobiles, Delhi. If required, please merge it with an existing thread.

ankur_gupta10 · 25th July 2009, 00:14

Nice post, i was looking for some feedback on the workshop. I like the rates too. Did you feel any difference with their oil and spares?

tanwaramit · 27th July 2009, 12:41

nice review, was looking for such kind of shop. How crowded is it on Sundays ? as I cant spare one day during office days.

tsk13 · 5th August 2009, 01:38

Guys, well the name Bosch Service to me had created dreams of a USA styled workshop, but sadly it wasn't so. You may say my experience was good (not excellent) only because I was there personally next to the car. The workshop is small and they don't have a proper setup, which I believe should not be the case with Bosch.

I've heard Wheelforce, the Rajouri Garden center has Scanning facilities which indeed was missing from Oriental. But in future, I'll take my car to MGF or any other good Hyundai Service Center. Prior to this, I'll get my car's scanning done from a 3rd party center.

sgiitk · 5th August 2009, 09:43

Looks good. I am a bit sceptical about the idea of using sandpaper in the brake parts!

tsk1979 · 5th August 2009, 10:48

Actually even in Tata authorized service centers, sandpapering brake pads is the way used to clean them

phamilyman · 5th August 2009, 10:57

Yeah that's the same even at bajaj

tsk13 · 5th August 2009, 14:11

What's the alternate to sandpaper rubbing? I always knew this method, as local mechanic did the same earlier to servicing at Bosch.

Santro is not having power brakes, and I never found any noticeable improvement in braking post sandpaper rubbing. Does it make any difference or simply a money making gimmick?

Eddy · 5th August 2009, 14:22

Sandpaper @ Maruti too !!

Fortuner71 · 19th August 2009, 13:04

Anyone been to Motor smiths - Bangalore , its near Ragigudda , Jayanagar 9th Block ?

Any experince will be helpful .

greenhorn · 19th August 2009, 13:47

I think their owner is in team bhp, and that they are the subject of some epic threads here. Just search for motorsmiths

sgiitk · 19th August 2009, 13:58

No sanding. Just clean with a cloth and put them in. why do you need to 'key' the pad surface. Proscribed in for the past decade plus, never had a problem.

nawanisk · 9th April 2016, 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk13

What's the alternate to sandpaper rubbing? I always knew this method, as local mechanic did the same earlier to servicing at Bosch.

Santro is not having power brakes, and I never found any noticeable improvement in braking post sandpaper rubbing. Does it make any difference or simply a money making gimmick?

Well, I'm just sharing what I used to do during my school days with brake pads (drum brakes) of my Vijay Super Mark II scooter and my Dad's official Willies Jeep, and it always worked perfectly and always better than "Sand Papering" the pads. I used to boil (Yes! you read it right!! BOIL!!!) the break pads in water with some turmeric added to water (about one level teaspoon). The duration of boiling the water varied depending on the state of the pad (how soiled / dirty they were). The break pad(s) must submerge in water completely and for regularly maintained break pads the duration used to be 10 - 15 minutes of boiling while for very dirty / soiled / worn out pads it was around just the double of this duration. I used to drain water first and then take out the brake pads and let them dry under the sun. This way, the brake pads lost all the sticky / oily contaminants and simultaneously they just "puffed up" to some extent giving more service life. Those were the times of Asbestos and Leather Lined Break Pads and it worked perfectly for me. These days I just don't know what material is being used for brake liners.

Cheers...!

2nd June 2009, 17:19	#1
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	Bosch Car Service - Oriental Automobiles, Delhi Hi all Got my Santro Xing serviced from Oriental Automobiles, Y-34, Okhla Phase-2, New Delhi today. The service details are as follows: Oil Filter(Bosch) - Rs.110 3.5 Litres Engine Oil(Bosch) - Rs.645 750 mL Gear Oil(Bosch) - Rs.130 Engine Tuning (Air Filter cleaning, Spark Plug cleaning, Battery terminal coating etc.) - Rs.200 2 Litres Coolant (Wurth) - Rs.360 Brake adjustments (rubbing the Disc parts with Sandpaper and rear Drum adjustments) - Rs.100 TOTAL - Rs.1,545 (excluding taxes) No proper washing done (Rs.300 is the charge) as the car was washed yesterday at MGF Hyundai, Okhla as it had a running repair. But post the oil changes, he washed the front of the car and the engine. During the whole process which lasted just 1.5 hours, I was standing their with the car getting a first hand knowledge of the service. The center is small, not as huge as the ones you see of Hyundai and others, but the good thing is that you get to see what is being to your car. The mechanics as per the owner have been trained by Bosch, but I didn't find them that impressive, can be on account that my car had no extraordinary job for them to solve. The owner also mentioned the labour issues he faces which can be a cause for my belief. The guys were quick in their service, owing to the fact that my car was the first for the day. The mechanics quickly switched over after one's work was complete. I was told by the owner yesterday that they'll deliver the car at about 2.30 PM on receiving at 9.30 AM, but it seems no other daily service outstanding and my personal presence sped up the things and the work scheduled by them for 5 hours lasted 1.5 hours. At the time of delivery, the tyres were cleaned using silicone and a tissue box provided. Moreover, one wierd thing was that the mechanic didn't make the effort to remove the car from the hydraulic lift bay and I had to do it, which was quite attention demanding and I had to request the mechanic to help me reversing out rather than he making a move. The center had an Accent standing for some accidental and electrical repair, an Innova for painting, a Palio for some accidental and regular service and another car. They have a paint booth with a huge fan underneath and an exhaust overhead. A recently painted Innova was parked inside and the guy told me they use Du Pont paints. On asking about wheel alignment and balancing, they told me that they have the facility in the vicinity. Overall experience has been good , won't say excellent. I was expecting some international standards as seen on TV, but what I got was not what I saw on TV, but according to me better than my experience with Hyundai. In Hyundai, you'll see a more professional approach in how they : 1. Receive the car with a proper job card (including accessories in the car, fuel tank level, scratches and dents marked on job sheet etc.) 2. Deliver it (making your car's dashboard shine with Diesel, which gives me a headache and polishing the exterior plastics). You usually don't get to see what's being done to your car in between so no comments on that. I have had an experience of having water filled with coolant at MGF 3rd free service and Hyundai Motor Plaza damaging the headlamp with water droplets being formed whenever it rained. HMP had to replace it eventually after finding no physical damages in the headlamp assembly. In another case with MGF Okhla, the new bumper and fender (car was bruised from the side by a school bus and repairs were handled by insurance) on the car were painted in a different shade of Real Earth colour, which MGF guys admitted and repainted upon the fact that there are 10 shades in Real Earth colour, and Real Earth shade in Santro Xing (models prior to GL and GLS such as XK, XL, XG, XO, XS etc.) is darker than what is coming now on Santro Xing. In Bosch, you have the advantage of: 1. Supervising the work personally. 2. Some better spares and components available at your disposal. Over here, the old Garage thing still exists owing to the fact that this particular Center was operating as a garage before associating with Bosch. The Job sheet only has details of work to be done and nothing is mentioned regarding the scratches, accessories, other components in the car like Hyundai. You will still find things lying wherever they are but you have the satisfaction of getting your car serviced before your eyes. These are my views, I won't be penning down pros and cons in concrete terms with respect to Bosch v/s Hyundai as my views will be a bit vague so I request you to form an opinion with reference to my experience mentioned above. Warm Regards Tanveer Singh To Mods: I saw threads on different franchisees of Bosch Auto Service, but could not find for Oriental Automobiles, Delhi. If required, please merge it with an existing thread.
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25th July 2009, 00:14	#2
ankur_gupta10 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 202 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Nice post, i was looking for some feedback on the workshop. I like the rates too. Did you feel any difference with their oil and spares?
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27th July 2009, 12:41	#3
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,930 Thanked: 497 Times	nice review, was looking for such kind of shop. How crowded is it on Sundays ? as I cant spare one day during office days.
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5th August 2009, 01:38	#4
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	Guys, well the name Bosch Service to me had created dreams of a USA styled workshop, but sadly it wasn't so. You may say my experience was good (not excellent) only because I was there personally next to the car. The workshop is small and they don't have a proper setup, which I believe should not be the case with Bosch. I've heard Wheelforce, the Rajouri Garden center has Scanning facilities which indeed was missing from Oriental. But in future, I'll take my car to MGF or any other good Hyundai Service Center. Prior to this, I'll get my car's scanning done from a 3rd party center.
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5th August 2009, 09:43	#5
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Looks good. I am a bit sceptical about the idea of using sandpaper in the brake parts!
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5th August 2009, 10:48	#6
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Actually even in Tata authorized service centers, sandpapering brake pads is the way used to clean them
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5th August 2009, 10:57	#7
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Yeah that's the same even at bajaj
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5th August 2009, 14:11	#8
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 361 Times	What's the alternate to sandpaper rubbing? I always knew this method, as local mechanic did the same earlier to servicing at Bosch. Santro is not having power brakes, and I never found any noticeable improvement in braking post sandpaper rubbing. Does it make any difference or simply a money making gimmick?
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5th August 2009, 14:22	#9
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,387 Thanked: 13,301 Times	Sandpaper @ Maruti too !!
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19th August 2009, 13:04	#10
Fortuner71 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mysore Posts: 401 Thanked: 344 Times	Bosch Car Service : Motor Smiths - Bangalore ; Any experience ? Anyone been to Motor smiths - Bangalore , its near Ragigudda , Jayanagar 9th Block ? Any experince will be helpful .
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19th August 2009, 13:47	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,400 Times View My Garage	I think their owner is in team bhp, and that they are the subject of some epic threads here. Just search for motorsmiths
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19th August 2009, 13:58	#12
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	No sanding. Just clean with a cloth and put them in. why do you need to 'key' the pad surface. Proscribed in for the past decade plus, never had a problem.
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